See! Plus if things get bad you can eat them
Miniature Pig Skin Maps also were popular. I saw one down at Tumacacori in Dan DaSarno's collection.
A real Spanish Treasure Map!
The last page of the Travis Tumlinson Manuscript.
Deep retrospection does not always lead to satisfaction.
Speak of the devil. A Tumlinson heirloom posted. Wonder what else is floating around.
Wayne
Travis was behind all this and the idea did not pop up from nowhere. They were searching for something in the eastern Superstitions. What did Peg Leg have stashed? A very interesting history with that family.
If I needed to make a map during that time period leather is perfect. Light to carry and holds up to wear and tear. Not like there was a office max around the corner. Plus there is a history of leather maps for the area. As you suspect there could be hidden artifacts the public is not aware of. Perhaps some Tumlinson family heirlooms.
The last page of the Travis Tumlinson Manuscript.
Travis sure did believe in the spirit of the Apache Gods. According to Bair there was no horse / witch stone - but instead a stone with an Indian.
It's all coming together.
According to Bob Schultz, it was he and Travis who found the Indian Head stone somewhere north of the Columbia River.
Both Bair and Schultz were friends of Travis's from the Hood River area. I think Bair might have seen that stone while it was still at Travis' home, and before he or Aileen took it down to Texas, although he doesn't actually say so.
From Gary's website:
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Here is the story as told by Bob Bair.
Also from Gary's website:
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In context, both Schultz and Bair have been tracked down and are being questioned by Richard Peck's representatives.
Schultz said he had seen the H/P stone and described it. Bair said he hadn't seen it, but also knew that Travis had found a stone with an Indian Head on it.
Both described the same stone, with "lips sealed", but Bair also said that his wife had read part of Travis' manuscript.
It doesn't sound like either of them thought the Indian Head stone was related to the stone maps.
Hopefully one day the manuscript can be printed for public view. With this story of the stone maps everything is heresay - you can cherry pick whatever you'd like to believe in....pro or con.
Money and friendships will always align - I would read Schultz comments as Travis being paranoid and trying to throw people off his tracks - so they also don't go to the superstitions to look for other possible "stone maps."
We do have a report, from the same friendship group, stating Travis altered the heart stone to throw off would be thieves. Makes perfect sense, to me, why he would tell Mr. Schultz to fabricate a story saying he found the Indian Head map in Oregon.
If - and thats a big IF - we want to believe in these accounts by his friends - they incriminate Travis as having a hand in altering at least the heart stone.
Once we know that Travis had a desire to deceive / alter the maps - then from that point forward, to me, he is not to be trusted. It also shows he can carve a bunch of zero's and have led would be stone mapper's to believe it represented a monetary value of the "treasure".
I don't like being lied to - but perhaps others don't mind as much.
Yes, I hope that it is shared at some point....the sooner the better.
Gary has very graciously answered some of my questions on another site, so I know a bit more about the manuscript now.
While I consider the Peck group as more of a "hostile takeover" organization, rather than a "friendship group", I'm still willing to take the evidence they gathered at face value. I don't think we can make any assumptions that one is lying and the other is not, simply because Travis worried about others taking the stones from him.
Bair said that Travis carved the zeros on the back of the heart stone. Although Bair also told him about the Indian Head stone, he wouldn't or couldn't tell them where it was found or whether it was linked to the stone maps....why not? He also said he hadn't seen any stone with a horse. Had he been coached to say this by Travis?
Schultz was able to describe all of the stones, but said there were seven zeros "cyphers", not six. So was he also coached as to what to say if asked ?
We simply do not know the answers to these questions, and we can choose to believe or disbelieve all or any of it. But one thing we know for sure is that the stones we see in the museum, as used from Mitchell on, do not include anything with an Indian head.
E.Love mentions the 5th stone and says Peck has a drawing of it.....does Greg have that drawing in his collection?
Regards:SH.
Yes, I hope that it is shared at some point....the sooner the better.
Gary has very graciously answered some of my questions on another site, so I know a bit more about the manuscript now.
While I consider the Peck group as more of a "hostile takeover" organization, rather than a "friendship group", I'm still willing to take the evidence they gathered at face value. I don't think we can make any assumptions that one is lying and the other is not, simply because Travis worried about others taking the stones from him.
Bair said that Travis carved the zeros on the back of the heart stone. Although Bair also told him about the Indian Head stone, he wouldn't or couldn't tell them where it was found or whether it was linked to the stone maps....why not? He also said he hadn't seen any stone with a horse. Had he been coached to say this by Travis?
Schultz was able to describe all of the stones, but said there were seven zeros "cyphers", not six. So was he also coached as to what to say if asked ?
We simply do not know the answers to these questions, and we can choose to believe or disbelieve all or any of it. But one thing we know for sure is that the stones we see in the museum, as used from Mitchell on, do not include anything with an Indian head.
E.Love mentions the 5th stone and says Peck has a drawing of it.....does Greg have that drawing in his collection?
Regards:SH.