The Peralta Stone Maps, Real Maps to Lost Gold Mines or Cruel Hoax?

[Old]

Wayne, You are missing the point. The jumping off place for all this "did, did not, did too" was about whether or not the MOEL stockholders, turncoats, and Mr. Peck hounded Janie and her caretakers. You opined they did not. I supplied information that they did. Fess up Man. They did. End of discussion.

 

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[somehiker]

Wayne, You are missing the point. The jumping off place for all this "did, did not, did too" was about whether or not the MOEL stockholders, turncoats, and Mr. Peck hounded Janie and her caretakers. You opined they did not. I supplied information that they did. Fess up Man. They did. End of discussion.

So, in other words, there IS no more than mentions within the Peck files of a telephone conversation with Ken and Lois Feltner....which btw, I had referenced in a post during previous debates on another site re: Azmula's then recent articles. It's old news Linda, and in my opinion a phone call about a subject of interest to all parties does not constitute "harassment".

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No mention of any conversation with or "interview" of Janie.....so cut the crp and show us the beef..... if you can.

 

[markmar]

John

I believe the Priest is not " speaking " metaphorically in his verses , but literally . When he " said " " find the heart " means to find a heart that could be recognized . The stone trail heart is a virtual one and was made as a warning for the most dangerous part of the trail .

The real small heart from the beginning of the trail is in some way a " key " . Points in the same direction with the stone trail heart from the stone tablet , shows in what direction lies the trail following the next heart's lob ( the first lugar starts where the arrow shows at the heart under the word COAZON ) , and shows the distance between the first two lugares ( and the other are not very different ) which is the same with the proportion of the small heart .

There is a close relation between the Lugares and the small heart . If multiple the 18 Lugares with the small heart's dimension , the result is the length of the trail .

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Didn't, John from Arizona, post a photo once of a heart the size of mount Rushmore from the area? I thought it was impressive. The one shown on the Superstition show was very nice. The Black robe dude on blackline thread is great. Lots of great stuff out that way. Nice area to hunt. Just try and not become the hunted.

 

[Old]

Actually Wayne, no. My reply is a sign of frustration.

I was sitting here reviewing the video from the actual witnesses who lived this story. Hearing again clearly their words. Words which you have been one of only a few who have been privy to it on a direct basis. From their lips to your ears.

Frustrated that you could hear those words, from those witnesses, and still cling to a false narrative that you have to know is incorrect. Why? What drives you? When does common sense and words of those that lived it not reach into your recesses and provide some light into your understanding?

Frustrated that nothing is ever good enough for you. All I hear is more, more, more. Prove it. Well I proved it. I told you, I showed it to you, I drew you a picture with directional arrows and provided additional resources. And you do what? Continue to mock, shame and doubt. And yet; you swallow camels and gawk at gnats when others continue to distort the story. What a shame. Pass it by Wayne. Its importance is lost on you. Accept that and lets both move on.

When and if I share anything additional it will be at my choosing. Not because of some silly game you want to play. It will be for the benefit of those who have the ability to embrace truth and reconcile it with the own personal journey.

 

[somehiker]

It's an arrowhead....not a heart



And a beautiful example was found washed out of the dirt pile next to one of the holes out at Queen Creek.

 

[somehiker]

Actually Wayne, no. My reply is a sign of frustration.

I was sitting here reviewing the video from the actual witnesses who lived this story. Hearing again clearly their words. Words which you have been one of only a few who have been privy to it on a direct basis. From their lips to your ears.

Frustrated that you could hear those words, from those witnesses, and still cling to a false narrative that you have to know is incorrect. Why? What drives you? When does common sense and words of those that lived it not reach into your recesses and provide some light into your understanding?

Frustrated that nothing is ever good enough for you. All I hear is more, more, more. Prove it. Well I proved it. I told you, I showed it to you, I drew you a picture with directional arrows and provided additional resources. And you do what? Continue to mock, shame and doubt. And yet; you swallow camels and gawk at gnats when others continue to distort the story. What a shame. Pass it by Wayne. Its importance is lost on you. Accept that and lets both move on.

When and if I share anything additional it will be at my choosing. Not because of some silly game you want to play. It will be for the benefit of those who have the ability to embrace truth and reconcile it with the own personal journey.

Sorry that you and Ryan feel so hard done by, Lynda. But it's no game, and there are holes in this newer narrative big enough to fly a B747 through.
Of course, following your lead, I could easily classify those frequent and lengthy phone calls you refer to as "harassment" as well, since they involved questions about my motives, beliefs and actions.
Especially since some of my replies to those questions were laughed at or ridiculed by the various people I was speaking to at the time. In fact, the last person I was connected to by RG, thought it was very funny when my reply to her question about what I thought the museum stones were made from was "Stone and/or possibly faux stone (buff colored trail stones)". She was very insistent that they were made from "ADOBE" instead. Although I really wasn't offended much at the time....hey....just ask me now!!

 

[somehiker]

It's an arrowhead....not a heart

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And a beautiful example was found washed out of the dirt pile next to one of the holes out at Queen Creek.

At least one account mentioned that Travis had been searching for arrowheads near Florence Junction when he found the HP stone protruding from an embankment.
And Pat Hainer had said that Travis had found the stone where an arrow-shaped rock pile seemed to indicate something could be there.
Was this detail part of a set of directions which Travis was following....or shown as the crooked or broken arrow on the lower trail stone....or the "ground map" ?
Oh yeaaaa, and I almost forgot the arrowhead on the "Garmin- Peralta Tesora Mappa- map".......eh

 

[azdave35]

easy there...one of you are gonna vapor lock if you don't calm down...lol

 

[somehiker]

Won't be yours truly Dave.
Cause I ain't the one who's frustrated that everyone....especially me apparently....won't buy what they tryin to sell.
But I gotta say this....that if it's true that all of this was all about the money, then Travis and Alleen...and even old PegLeg himself must be doin fist-bumps up there in the clouds.
Cause Ryan's initial outlay of five grand for the manuscript as well as what he claims amounts to "tens of thousands" in additional cash and a promised TV series sure ain't no small potatoes.
But at least it's gotten him and even the rest of us a bit more to chew on.

 

[Silverchair]

Matthew Roberts was correct about the " zeroes " which are carved on the back of the stone trail heart . These carvings have nothing common with the other carvings from the stone maps . The difference is enormous .
If RG would spent few bucks more to a specialist in arts and hand drawing , for sure he would knew the truth by now . But these are small letters on a contract for a fairy tale book

I also believe , there , together with the other stone maps , could/should exist a smaller ( than the stone trail heart ) stone heart , the heart #4 from the Priest stone map . This heart would match in the trail map under the start point of the trail . Also this detail would be related to the Priest map , being the heart which is reffered in the fourth verse " busca el coazon " and is a sign/landmark from where the trail starts .

So , there exist a real small heart at the start point of the trail and a virtual bigger heart at the end of the trail .

Also , the verses on the Priest stone map should be read from the bottom to the top ( 4 to 1 ) . Is a trick of the map .

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Markmar

No, it was a 2, The Holy Trinity, the triangle. What they are relaying is 2 = 3 sun sign reveals mine 1. Only can be seen from what most call the treasure box, it's not it's the Saint Gardians.

The Heart can be seen from there, I took a picture of it. Then follow the map, Follow the ❤️

Silver Chair

 

[Silverchair]

Ohh equals eighteen places to go. Arches

Silver Chair

 

[EarnieP]

Quick, someone check the magnetic field around those darn Stones.
I believe we can confirm that lunacy must be 99% iron!

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Quick, someone check the magnetic field around those darn Stones.
I believe we can confirm that lunacy must be 99% iron!

Id like to see the number of people that have died over those rocks. Now you might have a goon squad show up at your door about them. Is it not a crime to represent yourself as a FBI agent when your not?

 

[JohnWhite]

John

I believe the Priest is not " speaking " metaphorically in his verses , but literally . When he " said " " find the heart " means to find a heart that could be recognized . The stone trail heart is a virtual one and was made as a warning for the most dangerous part of the trail .

The real small heart from the beginning of the trail is in some way a " key " . Points in the same direction with the stone trail heart from the stone tablet , shows in what direction lies the trail following the next heart's lob ( the first lugar starts where the arrow shows at the heart under the word COAZON ) , and shows the distance between the first two lugares ( and the other are not very different ) which is the same with the proportion of the small heart .

There is a close relation between the Lugares and the small heart . If multiple the 18 Lugares with the small heart's dimension , the result is the length of the trail .

Forgive me for not responding sooner markmar...I got a new toy in the mail today and I have been playing with it...

And I also worked on my nephew's car today and replaced his power steering belt on his car, yes it is the same nephew who suggested that my son buy the straight needle nose pliers...Anyhow I charged him two beers for labor...Of course he wanted to pay me more...But I did not want to accept any cash...

Anyhow...here is a link to the sacred heart... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart ...At the location that I claim to be the beginning of the trail... There is a large half heart with a carving in a rock of a king and a queen and a Virgin of Guadalupe... There is also a flame in a stone at the water line, I am not certain if this flame is visible all year round or only at a certain time of the year...Anyhow when one stands in the location where the flame is visible...One may see the shadow writing in a black stone with a number 8 on it...

I guess I was lucky and the universe aligned for me at just the right time...I had already been to the little mining area without knowing any of the the stuff that I had previously mentioned...At the time I did not think much of it...Though after doing the math...I believe that the area in question may be the Tayopa of lore...Which in my opinion is the area depicted in the psm's...

I don't know how much clearer I can state the facts that I have seen...But I do not believe the psm's lead to any location near Apache Junction, AZ...

I guess that only time will tell...Maybe one day I can afford a tm-808 and investigate the area in question...And then I may reveal the area in question to some of ya'll...Who can say

 

[azdave35]

Id like to see the number of people that have died over those rocks. Now you might have a goon squad show up at your door about them. Is it not a crime to represent yourself as a FBI agent when your not?

i couldn't say how many people have died over those stones but alot of guys around here have ruined their lives over them......them is some evil rocks...lol

 

[Silverchair]

Quick, someone check the magnetic field around those darn Stones.
I believe we can confirm that lunacy must be 99% iron!

Earnie

How many times has the force been with you, and dragged you into the Mountains in your youth.

Just a wondering!

Silver Chair

 

[Carl995]

i couldn't say how many people have died over those stones but alot of guys around here have ruined their lives over them......them is some evil rocks...lol

Hey if it wasn't for the stone maps, I wouldn't be here!

 

[Silverchair]

Yeah,

We would have never met Marry the cross dresser!

Silver Chair

 

[sgtfda]

Sorry that you and Ryan feel so hard done by, Lynda. But it's no game, and there are holes in this newer narrative big enough to fly a B747 through.
Of course, following your lead, I could easily refer to the frequent and lengthy phone calls you refer to as "harassment" as well, since they involved questions about my motives, beliefs and actions.
Especially since some of my replies to those questions were laughed at or ridiculed by the various people I was speaking to at the time. In fact, the last person I was connected to by RG, thought it was very funny when my reply to her question about what I thought the museum stones were made from was "Stone and/or possibly faux stone (buff colored trail stones)". She was very insistent that they were made from "ADOBE" instead. Although I really wasn't offended much at the time....hey....just ask me now!!

Wayne
Not everyone understands Canadians.