The Peralta Stone Maps, Real Maps to Lost Gold Mines or Cruel Hoax?

[cactusjumper]

VT:
Methinks Kurt is stuck using "Double-Jack Inc." for his news.
Thought sure we were gonna see him at the Rendezvous.
Said he was looking forward to seein me...for some reason.
Then again...maybe he got stuck in his hole up on that butte.
....or he WAS there and we just didn't see him....

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Regards:SH.

Wayne,

Never really expected Kurt to show up, but I thought BabyMick might be there to try and con me out of that $100 bet that we made. Since he didn't show, does that mean I won the money by......default?

Take care,

Joe

 

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[Cubfan64]

Funny isn't it how some people can talk the talk on an internet forum, but when it comes time to walk the walk, they're nowhere to be found . I'm sure we'll eventually hear a reason or two why they couldn't make it.

 

[sgtfda]

Though like Joe I'm interested in other things in the area besides dutch hunting. I find you all very interesting. Dutch hunters and mappers. For me that is what makes the gathering so interesting. Would not miss it for the world. It helps living close.

 

[somehiker]

Wayne,

Your image reminds me of petroglyphs I have seen, but with a faded out/weak life line.

Take care,





Joe

Which image ?
And where's the "life line" you're talking about ?
Or are you making a funny about the happy face gif ?

Unfortunately, wins by default of this type are all too common within these forums.
But yes, I'd say you did.

Wayne

 

[cactusjumper]

Wayne,

I'm talking about the very white line that starts at your "moose's"/deer's neck and curves into the body, before fading away.

Take care,

Joe

 

[somehiker]

Wayne,

I'm talking about the very white line that starts at your "moose's"/deer's neck and curves into the body, before fading away.

Take care,

Joe

Well, this "moose's/deer's"...(we don't dare call it a horse, do we ?)... ain't among the living no more.
So I suppose what you say makes sense.

But there's lots of horses out there.
This one's made of plaster or lime.
Bout ten feet long.
And it's up high, along the same trail.




Regards:Wayne

 

[coazon de oro]

Well, this "moose's/deer's"...(we don't dare call it a horse, do we ?)... ain't among the living no more.
So I suppose what you say makes sense.

But there's lots of horses out there.
This one's made of plaster or lime.
Bout ten feet long.
And it's up high, along the same trail.




Regards:Wayne

Howdy Wayne,

I would say this painting is evidence of someone else's encounter with the ghost horse. There has to be something there. Your experience hearing the horse approching, reminds me of the wagon that has been heard coming in to the Espantosa Lake here in Texas.

In my town there is a small hill just out of town called the billy goat hill. It got it's name because several people reported seeing a ghost billy goat there many years ago. Two young men looked into an old well next to that hill noticed a hole near the bottom of the well's wall. They retrieved a box full of gold coins, and the goat's ghost was not seen anymore.

If you by chance happen to see that ghost horse, follow him, he may lead you to some treasure.

Here in La Salle county, close to the Herradura Ranch entrance, a young woman has been seen by several. They all describe her the same way, she walks by the side of the highway with very long hair, looking down, and never shows her face. Only one man has seen her walking just inside the brushy pasture. Most of the reports are made to 911 of concerned drivers that have never heard about her (one of my son's is a law officer), and most of the reports are made during the night.

I myself have never had the luck of seeing her, but if I do, I will follow her into the pasture.

Homar

 

[natchitoches]

i think the ghost horse is trying to show him something too.

 

[somehiker]

Natch and Homar:
Could be. In the pursuit of this hobby I really don't want to discount any find or occurrence.
So I will be checking the area where the first photo was shot, as well as doing more poking around in the vicinity of the white mineral deposit on the cliff face.I'm sure the deposit was natural, but it may have been altered in some ways long ago.
Both were oriented to the N-N/W.They are just two of the many things I need to follow up on in the next visit to the area.

Regards:SH.

 

[somehiker]

While continuing on my way I kept looking back the way I had come, hoping for another chance for a photograph.
I didn't hear any more sounds of hoofs on the rocks, or see anything out of the ordinary.
Until I got about half way around a drop off, opposite the point where I shot the ghostly horse.
This is what was visible from that location.

Regards:SH.

 

[somehiker]

Which happens to be above this rock.

 

[Cubfan64]

While continuing on my way I kept looking back the way I had come, hoping for another chance for a photograph.
I didn't hear any more sounds of hoofs on the rocks, or see anything out of the ordinary.
Until I got about half way around a drop off, opposite the point where I shot the ghostly horse.
This is what was visible from that location.

Regards:SH.

Ok Wayne, now THAT got my attention . I often can't see what people try to point out in rock photos, but that one certainly looks like a cross - possibly even a cross with a circle above it (like ankh). From the photo, I find it hard to believe that's a natural formation - looks too precise for that. You appear to be onto something - either that or someone went to lots of trouble to create something for fun.

 

[sgtfda]

This is what happens when you get off the path and head into the rocks and bushes. You find ghost horses and crosses. You also sit at home afterwards picking cactus spines out of your legs and butt. Every time I think I got them all Wayne I find a new one.

 

[somehiker]

This is what happens when you get off the path and head into the rocks and bushes. You find ghost horses and crosses. You also sit at home afterwards picking cactus spines out of your legs and butt. Every time I think I got them all Wayne I find a new one.

The TSA guy who did the pat-down on me at KPHX on the way home.....wishes he hadn't.
I hope the ones who went through my luggage been doing been doing the tweezer thing as well.

But I wonder if Ward and De-Grazia were also picking needles from the same cactus where we got ours the other day.
At any of those three interesting locations.
Although things change over time, this more recentl taken photo shows one of the things I mentioned as having caught my eye.
Where some of his original work remains.

Regards:Wayne

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[sgtfda]

Wayne I think the three locations are markers for deposits. Site #3, the dog site (unlike the others) is not a spot with a view.
I agree on the photo. Same same.

 

[vor]

While continuing on my way I kept looking back the way I had come, hoping for another chance for a photograph.
I didn't hear any more sounds of hoofs on the rocks, or see anything out of the ordinary.
Until I got about half way around a drop off, opposite the point where I shot the ghostly horse.
This is what was visible from that location.

Regards:SH.

SH
Is that a natural depression/cave on the fissure in the rock face (center right in photo)?

 

[somehiker]

Wayne I think the three locations are markers for deposits. Site #3, the dog site (unlike the others) is not a spot with a view.
I agree on the photo. Same same.

And it's also a low point, rather than a high point as with the other two.
It's a head-scratcher.And I wonder if Tom K's copy of Ward's map has any additional information ?
I have another map by Ward, not included in the book you loaned me, which may as well.
I'll dig it up and e-mail it to you.

 

[somehiker]

SH
Is that a natural depression/cave on the fissure in the rock face (center right in photo)?

It's a shallow depression, natural and blackened by seepage from the horizontal crack at the top.
To give scale to what's in the photo, the black spot is about 10-12 ft. high.

Regards:SH.

Paul:
I had a close look and the cross ,like everything else (almost) appears to be either natural or very old and weather-worn.

 

[sgtfda]

Wayne I think Toms map copy was part of the holly stone issue

 

[Cubfan64]

It's a shallow depression, natural and blackened by seepage from the horizontal crack at the top.
To give scale to what's in the photo, the black spot is about 10-12 ft. high.

Regards:SH.

Paul:
I had a close look and the cross appears,like everything else (almost) appears to be either natural or very old and weather-worn.

Wow - if that's the case, it just goes to show that "feet on the ground" is the only way to form judgements. I would swear from that photo that there's no way the cross shape is natural.