The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

[Hal Croves]

Cubfan64,

I am trying.
I am trying.
But my name is just a theory that some have already figured out.
I don't know it to be fact, but I believe it to be.
That is the difference. My name is just theory now and according to some, Tom's is believed to be hard gospel.
Tom is a public figure, a writer and relied on for historically accurate information.
I am not.

But you are correct. I am guilty of holding back that name.
It is only out of respect for the family (whom I am quite fond of) and a desire to let people come to it on their own.
But my actions are hypocritical.
So, this should make up for that.

He was known as the Indian's Banker, Puye Kanafyaia, and Ko'pishtem (Man With the High Forehead).

Now the conversation can begin.

mary333,
I hope that you are among the first to use these clues to learn that name. I will provide the reasoning for that belief once you have it.

 

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[Dirty Dutchman]

Cubfan64,

I am trying.
I am trying.
But my name is just a theory that some have already figured out.
I don't know it to be fact, but I believe it to be.
That is the difference. My name is just theory now and according to some, Tom's is believed to be hard gospel.
Tom is a public figure, a writer and relied on for historically accurate information.
I am not.

But you are correct. I am guilty of holding back that name.
It is only out of respect for the family (whom I am quite fond of) and a desire to let people come to it on their own.
But my actions are hypocritical.
So, this should make up for that.

He was known as the Indian's Banker, Puye Kanafyaia, and Ko'pishtem (Man With the High Forehead).

Now the conversation can begin.

mary333,
I hope that you are among the first to use these clues to learn that name. I will provide the reasoning for that belief once you have it.

Are you talking about Halseth from "The Survey"...? You think he made the stones?

Thanks
Travis

 

[wrmickel1]

Hal,

You have a rare gift for both being honest and acting on that honesty. Unlike the men who posted this you understand the difference between right and wrong.

Originally Posted by sgtfda
Had to go to the Apache Junction fruit market today so I decided to meet up with Tom K at the Blue Bird. By the way they have a set of the stones on display in the front window. Copies just like the museum. God everyone has them. Tom told me a acquaintance made the stones in the 30's and placed them in the FJ spot. I asked why there and he said the guy was working in the area. This person also worked as a tombstone engraver. Which explains a lot. I wanted to ask him about the Burns from Burns Ranch and the pitt mine. The stones came up after I noticed the window display. I will still keep a open mind as its fun to play with the issue.
Frank,

Tom told me this story some time ago. Not much chance he will ever divulge the name. I believe it to be true.

Take care,

Joe


I live in Mesa and going forward I will make sure that every time I found out that someone has been hurt or god forbids worse out there searching for the end of the Stone Map trail this will be sent to them. I am sure you children will be happy to explain to their loved ones why doing nothing is the right thing to do. You may even have to come out of your rubber room to speak with them. You are all shameful.

Maybe Tom K. can do an article explaining your actions and his.


Mary

"Cowards die many times before their deaths. The brave experience death only once."

Mary

Women are told of toxic shock from tampon's yet it claims hundreds of lives, They were warned, but use them anyway!
Instead of waiting to report another mishaps. Get off the couch and go find the mine, Your bordem will go away and you will start enjoying life again, Your not dead till your dead!


Wrmickel1

 

[wrmickel1]

Are you talking about Halseth from "The Survey"...? You think he made the stones?

Thanks
Travis

Travis

Run, Its a trap, He'll suck you into the rubber room, I'm there NOW! whew!

I'm caught in a trap, and I can't walk out, cause I love you to much Joe! 'Woah where dat com from'

COMMEN-- CENTS, Nobody keeps the stone,s under there bed till they die" (being fakes and all)


Wrmickel1

 

[cactusjumper]

Somero

IMO , the stones tablets are a combination of modern map ( the trail ) and directives ( H/P ) . The trail map is based on landmarks and the horse map ( reversed ) with the priest map in relation with the " omega " shape , shows the same region . The priest shows with the Cross the region with the five dots .

Marius

Marius,

Using a topographic program, try placing the eye of the horse at Aylor's Arch.

Joe Ribaudo

 

[roadrunner]

Are you talking about Halseth from "The Survey"...? You think he made the stones?

Thanks
Travis

This is what I found in a few searches. What was his first name.
Still have to look.

Halseth himself is known among the people of the Zia
pueblo in New Mexico as Ko'pishtem (Man With the
High Forehead), but the people of the Santa Clara
pueblo call him Puye Kanafyaia. That dates from a visit
he made years ago to the Santa Clara pueblo to hire In-
dians for excavation work on a cliff dwelling called Puye.

To many riddles and games being played in here.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Wrmickel, you have a fascinating store of unsual knowledge

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi mi compadre wermickel: ?? What about the Marlyn Monroe nudes under your bed?? Can I check them to see if I have the same copies?

 

[wrmickel1]

Wrmickel, you have a fascinating store of unsual knowledge

Why thanks Tropical Tramp,

And the shelves are stocked full!


Way Mart- Rolling back commen cents

 

[wrmickel1]

Hi mi compadre wermickel: ?? What about the Marlyn Monroe nudes under your bed?? Can I check them to see if I have the same copies?

Yeah' it looks like Bobby might have done my women in. But I geuss I could dig her up for some part time.

Wrmickel1

 

[Hal Croves]

This is what I found in a few searches. What was his first name.
Still have to look.

Halseth himself is known among the people of the Zia
pueblo in New Mexico as Ko'pishtem (Man With the
High Forehead), but the people of the Santa Clara
pueblo call him Puye Kanafyaia. That dates from a visit
he made years ago to the Santa Clara pueblo to hire In-
dians for excavation work on a cliff dwelling called Puye.

To many riddles and games being played in here.

That may be true, but you will understand it better if you learn it on your own.
One more riddle can't hurt.

So, is it just another name for the pile, or do you think that he qualifies as a person of interest?
Before you dismiss the idea outright, it would be smart to read up on the man.

If they are modern.
If they were made as I believe they were made...
then he is the man.

That list that I have been writing about.
Hold him up to it and compare.

Another member suggested that no one man could possess all the skills needed to make the stones.
That is the tell.

He possessed them all.


The first name is Odd.

Norse Meaning:
The name Odd is a Norse baby name. In Norse the meaning of the name Odd is: Point.


SoulUrge Number: 6 People with this name have a deep inner desire for a stable, loving family or community, and a need to work with others and to be appreciated.
Expression Number: 5 People with this name are excited by change, adventure, and excitement. They are dynamic, visionary and versatile, able to make constructive use of freedom. They fight being restricted by rules and conventions. They tend to be optimistic, energetic, intelligent, and to make friends easily. They may be changeable, restless, untidy, and rebellious."

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This list is extensive, but it is not complete.


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[wrmickel1]

Norse Meaning: [/B]
The name Odd is a Norse baby name. In Norse the meaning of the name Odd is: Point.


SoulUrge Number: 6 People with this name have a deep inner desire for a stable, loving family or community, and a need to work with others and to be appreciated.
Expression Number: 5 People with this name are excited by change, adventure, and excitement. They are dynamic, visionary and versatile, able to make constructive use of freedom. They fight being restricted by rules and conventions. They tend to be optimistic, energetic, intelligent, and to make friends easily. They may be changeable, restless, untidy, and rebellious."

Hal

I have norse in me and I think you just decribe lovable,intelligent,make friends easily 'ME'

And I,m the sixth child of 14 but one died so now I the 5th

Well thanks for the lovely interduction

Your Friend Wrmickel1

 

[Hal Croves]

mary333,
If you are who you claim to be, I want to apologize for that last response to your post. Most of the gentlemen on this site would disprove of the analogy and of the insensitivity behind it.

And if your not who you claim to be... well, it is still weird.

 

[Hal Croves]

Hal

I have norse in me and I think you just decribe lovable,intelligent,make friends easily 'ME'

And I,m the sixth child of 14 but one died so now I the 5th

Well thanks for the lovely interduction

Your Friend Wrmickel1

Well, then it should come as no surprise to you that he was from the land of the Norse.

 

[roadrunner]

Thanks Hal.
I will keep looking a little.
Did he have any connection with the dons club in Phoenix?

 

[wrmickel1]

mary333,
If you are who you claim to be, I want to apologize for that last response to your post. Most of the gentlemen on this site would disprove of the analogy and of the insensitivity behind it.

And if your not who you claim to be... well, it is still weird.

Hal

The analogy is commen cents. Gas is flamable, Don't smoke, Don't do drugs, watch your diet,ect. ect. All the warnings should be enough, BUT

But we all do what we want to do anyway, Its a painting on canves, or a show on history or carved stone, It sets something free in all of us, a passion, a selfworth is what Marry is missing,
You really can't read people like you do your books. She needs to go to the dutch thing in Oct. and meet the cast. I,m sure she would find us all delightful gentlemen even Joe is a nice guy in person. I met him once and shook he's big old hand.

So don't go apologizing for me. The bottom line is nobody gets hurt cause you or Joe or Tk did,nt say a name of someone who might of made the Stone Maps.

Nice sucks, back to the old me hal! What you trying to hook up with Marry!
Don't be eye balling my women!

Wrmickel1

 

[roadrunner]

Thanks. What is confusing is that they were both taken in the same location (same material to drill). I am at a loss to explain it.

How many feet apart from one another where they?

 

[Hal Croves]

How many feet apart from one another where they?

I did not measure but they are from the same structure as shown below. GE has a measuring tool.

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Note the dots that surround the "5" symbol.
The ones below the "5" align to the power-line towers.
Plot the towers on GE. Then compare to the dots.
An impossible coincidence?




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[Hal Croves]

Hal

The analogy is commen cents. Gas is flamable, Don't smoke, Don't do drugs, watch your diet,ect. ect. All the warnings should be enough, BUT

But we all do what we want to do anyway, Its a painting on canves, or a show on history or carved stone, It sets something free in all of us, a passion, a selfworth is what Marry is missing,
You really can't read people like you do your books. She needs to go to the dutch thing in Oct. and meet the cast. I,m sure she would find us all delightful gentlemen even Joe is a nice guy in person. I met him once and shook he's big old hand.

So don't go apologizing for me. The bottom line is nobody gets hurt cause you or Joe or Tk did,nt say a name of someone who might of made the Stone Maps.

Nice sucks, back to the old me hal! What you trying to hook up with Marry!
Don't be eye balling my women!

Wrmickel1

I was not apologizing for you.

"Its nice to be nice to the nice"
G. Costanza

 

[Hal Croves]

Thanks Hal.
I will keep looking a little.
Did he have any connection with the dons club in Phoenix?

Research.

He was a member of many groups, but he was also an independent thinker.

My grandmother always use to say "Macy's doesn't tell Gimbals" which, as it turns out, is a corruption of "Does Macy's tell Gimbals?"
It took me years to learn what she was saying as I had no clue as to what Gimbals was.