The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Paul,

I have said I would not listen to bb for a minute at the Rendezvous. That, of course, is not true. I will listen to what he has to say, long enough to see if he will be saying anything different than what he has presented here, and to Scott.

If it's the same nonsense, it may very well be less than a minute. From what he said after sending you on that wild goose chase, which I believe you enjoyed, I don't believe he had ever been there. Over the years, he has shown a decided lack of knowledge about the mountains and the history of the area.

I suspect he will be hopelessly lost as soon as he leaves the maintained trails. That's why I hope someone will accompany him who has experience. I would not want to see him get into trouble in our mountains. I'm sure everyone knows what I mean. The Supe's can be a painful mistress, until you really get to know her.

bb,

If you make it to camp, please take the time and make the effort to listen to any advise some of the old timers might offer. They've been there and done that........many times.

See you in camp,

Joe

some times it hard to under stand how some people can be so gifted why other fight for ever inch of life .. had sad it makes me to know how little i am under stood and how painfull it will be to stand in my realities for the rest of you ...awake unto your own life and hope the best for i shell never rest ...

 

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[Oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

i agree with you guys the stones have had so many people try to solve them the correct translation will be a breath of fresh air .. and people well say .. wow

A breath of fresh air you say? How about stale bread? Let me explain with an image of an article, published in 1967



If you will note, this makes much the same claim as you have, and is some 44 years ago. People have been claiming to have decoded/solved/deciphered the Peralta stones since they first became public knowledge. Still no treasures to show for all that, but the claims have been coming for over 44 years. Can you now understand why some folks are just the tiniest bit skeptical, whenever someone comes forward to proclaim that they have solved the mystery? No matter how clever the solution, without hard evidence (like gold, photos of treasure and/or ore veins etc) it is hardly anything like a breath of fresh air, more like stale old stuff that we have all been hearing for decades.

No offense intended, I am sure that your solution is compelling for you, and hope that you have that hard evidence that will prove your particular solution really is the correct one. Hard evidence truly would be a breath of fresh air.
Oroblanco

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

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Joe,

I'm not sure the newspaper article (about Julia) excludes or negates anything Starrar reportedly did.

Starrar was just one of many on the list who was into Jacob's stuff. There are many stories about Jacob's place being dug up, looking for more goodies, and personally, since there wasn't anything left there of value, (meaning more gold stashed), Julia probably didn't really care if it was
sold and out of her hands. Considering the fact that, after all was said and done, she went and got married.

Both accounts could, imo, be accurate, it all being in the timing. Julia, right after Jacob's box walked away, she could have easily thought there might be more. (it was reported that they did find some leather bags that had a little bit of "dust" left in them), and, after the place had been
completely checked over, that then, Starar took over.

BB,

If the mods did not delete the other thread, then ONLY you could do it. And, usually, when the mods delete it, they leave a note that they did.

Beth

PS: It seems like everytime I post a picture, the thread disappears - I guess I'll stop doing that

 

[somehiker]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Hal's topic vanished as well,about three weeks ago.
Too bad.Lots of interesting ground covered in that one,and it seemed to be going somewhere.
Guess that means no DVD or E-zine article to buy....for those so inclined.

Regards:SH.

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

i agree with you guys the stones have had so many people try to solve them the correct translation will be a breath of fresh air .. and people well say .. wow

A breath of fresh air you say? How about stale bread? Let me explain with an image of an article, published in 1967




If you will note, this makes much the same claim as you have, and is some 44 years ago. People have been claiming to have decoded/solved/deciphered the Peralta stones since they first became public knowledge. Still no treasures to show for all that, but the claims have been coming for over 44 years. Can you now understand why some folks are just the tiniest bit skeptical, whenever someone comes forward to proclaim that they have solved the mystery? No matter how clever the solution, without hard evidence (like gold, photos of treasure and/or ore veins etc) it is hardly anything like a breath of fresh air, more like stale old stuff that we have all been hearing for decades.

No offense intended, I am sure that your solution is compelling for you, and hope that you have that hard evidence that will prove your particular solution really is the correct one. Hard evidence truly would be a breath of fresh air.
Oroblanco

Roy, i am leaveing the end of the week . and i dont really care ...much at this point ...i am not interested ...

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

Roy, i am leaveing the end of the week . and i dont really care ...much at this point ...i am not interested ...

So I take it you do not understand, that people have been claiming they have solved the Peralta stones for decades which is why folks don't tend to believe it? What about your claim to have discovered the LDM? Are you saying that you don't have or won't have any hard evidence?

I hope you have a safe trip; we won't be heading out for at least ten days as there are plenty of things that have to be done.

Somehiker wrote

Hal's topic vanished as well,about three weeks ago.
Too bad.Lots of interesting ground covered in that one,and it seemed to be going somewhere. "icon_scratch:
Guess that means no DVD or E-zine article to buy....for those so inclined.

Don't write off Hal just yet, I don't think he has given up and may be putting things together? Time will tell.
Oroblanco

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Somehiker,

I believe Hal stated that he was going to delete his stuff. Since it is gone, I cannot verify that, but, I think he did mention it.

Beth

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

Roy, i am leaveing the end of the week . and i dont really care ...much at this point ...i am not interested ...

So I take it you do not understand, that people have been claiming they have solved the Peralta stones for decades which is why folks don't tend to believe it? What about your claim to have discovered the LDM? Are you saying that you don't have or won't have any hard evidence?

I hope you have a safe trip; we won't be heading out for at least ten days as there are plenty of things that have to be done.

Somehiker wrote

Hal's topic vanished as well,about three weeks ago.
Too bad.Lots of interesting ground covered in that one,and it seemed to be going somewhere. "icon_scratch:
Guess that means no DVD or E-zine article to buy....for those so inclined.

Don't write off Hal just yet, I don't think he has given up and may be putting things together? Time will tell.
Oroblanco

sorry i just have to much to do at this point in time to get ready ...
what about my claim of finding the LDM ..? what about it Roy ?

first off i am no longer claiming to have found anything . i did find it !

and second i will try to be at the Rendenzous .. i have no regrits and i beleive i can prove it is the real mine with out a dout what so ever ...there are things you dont know and i have not shared . be there you will under stand it after i explain and translate the stones ..

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

God willing and the creeks don't rise, we will be there.

Beth

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

sorry i just have to much to do at this point in time to get ready ...
what about my claim of finding the LDM ..? what about it Roy ?

first off i am no longer claiming to have found anything . i did find it !

and second i will try to be at the Rendenzous .. i have no regrits and i beleive i can prove it is the real mine with out a dout what so ever ...there are things you dont know and i have not shared . be there you will under stand it after i explain and translate the stones ..

There are plenty of things I don't know, trying to learn something new every day.

Side thingie here but saying 'I am not claiming to have found it, I did find it' is in fact claiming to have found it.

I see that you again return to explaining and translating the stones. You have said you are a shape-shifter, can you try looking at what you have said from someone else's shoes? Translating or deciphering the Peralta stones is simply not going to prove the case for most people. If it did, Barry Storm would be holding all the honors today for over forty years.

Good luck and good hunting, drive safe and I hope you all find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

 

[cactusjumper]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Roy,

The only thing that will work is to show some ore in situ. In order to do that, bb will need to have someone hike in with him.

When someone claims they have Translated or deciphered the Stone Maps, and that no one else in the world can do that, they will need something more than an empty hole in the ground to prove their point.

If you follow my map, you will find a cave at the first "X" and a sealed mine at the second. At the end of my trail, you will find the heart I have posted here a number of times. I feel that is more than anyone else has ever shown, that fits the stones.

That being said, I have not proved that the Stone Maps are a treasure map. bb has never been able to show a single, recognizable, feature from the maps. I have described the things that match the Stone Maps, on the ground, and marked where they can all be found.......by anyone.

Everything else is empty CLAIMS!

See you soon,

Joe

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Roy,

The only thing that will work is to show some ore in situ. In order to do that, bb will need to have someone hike in with him.

When someone claims they have Translated or deciphered the Stone Maps, and that no one else in the world can do that, they will need something more than an empty hole in the ground to prove their point.

If you follow my map, you will find a cave at the first "X" and a sealed mine at the second. At the end of my trail, you will find the heart I have posted here a number of times. I feel that is more than anyone else has ever shown, that fits the stones.

That being said, I have not proved that the Stone Maps are a treasure map. bb has never been able to show a single, recognizable, feature from the maps. I have described the things that match the Stone Maps, on the ground, and marked where they can all be found.......by anyone.

Everything else is empty CLAIMS!

See you soon,

Joe

Your map and theory fits very well indeed; and no offense intended here but referring to the sealed mine you found, we have only your word as to that being a mine. Is it a gold mine, or a silver mine, or a silica mine? Is it just a prospect pit that never produced anything but blisters? Is it a hand-dug well? We just don't know what that is. Have to agree on the rest of your statements; not sure why that point never seems to get across for some folks but it is going to take hard evidence - ore, ore vein photos etc no solution to the stone maps or any other treasure map Perfil or otherwise is going to suffice as proof.

See you soon too! Unless of course you see me first, but I will do my best to slip into the crowd un-noticed; the smell of freshly brewed hot coffee will show me where your camp is!
Roy

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

sorry i just have to much to do at this point in time to get ready ...
what about my claim of finding the LDM ..? what about it Roy ?

first off i am no longer claiming to have found anything . i did find it !

and second i will try to be at the Rendenzous .. i have no regrits and i beleive i can prove it is the real mine with out a dout what so ever ...there are things you dont know and i have not shared . be there you will under stand it after i explain and translate the stones ..

There are plenty of things I don't know, trying to learn something new every day.

Side thingie here but saying 'I am not claiming to have found it, I did find it' is in fact claiming to have found it.

I see that you again return to explaining and translating the stones. You have said you are a shape-shifter, can you try looking at what you have said from someone else's shoes? Translating or deciphering the Peralta stones is simply not going to prove the case for most people. If it did, Barry Storm would be holding all the honors today for over forty years.

Good luck and good hunting, drive safe and I hope you all find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

so show me what strom"s translation was, i will tell you if he was wrong ..

 

[allan]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

so show me what strom"s translation was, i will tell you if he was wrong ..

Am I supposed to do all the legwork for you? If you have Barry Storm's book Thunder Gods Gold, the 1986 version in particular has it explained pretty well. The 1967 article is also available online, if you can't find it I will send you scans tonight when I have more time. I had thought you were somewhat familiar with Storm's books?

Side thingie too but anyone can say "he was wrong" and the fact that Storm didn't find the LDM would back it up. Which brings me to the next point;

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

Good point Allan; I for one would be satisfied with seeing an ore specimen compared with Waltz's, photos of the ore vein in situ, the shaft etc without the exact whereabouts for I do not expect anyone is going to show exactly where it is located but you are quite right, any translation of the Peralta stones is as good as any other in so far as being disproved; any of them could be right. Equally, all could be wrong too. It will take solid hard evidence to prove any claims.
Oroblanco

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

lol what ever

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Blindbowman wrote

so show me what strom"s translation was, i will tell you if he was wrong ..

Am I supposed to do all the legwork for you? If you have Barry Storm's book Thunder Gods Gold, the 1986 version in particular has it explained pretty well. The 1967 article is also available online, if you can't find it I will send you scans tonight when I have more time. I had thought you were somewhat familiar with Storm's books?

Side thingie too but anyone can say "he was wrong" and the fact that Storm didn't find the LDM would back it up. Which brings me to the next point;

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

Good point Allan; I for one would be satisfied with seeing an ore specimen compared with Waltz's, photos of the ore vein in situ, the shaft etc without the exact whereabouts for I do not expect anyone is going to show exactly where it is located but you are quite right, any translation of the Peralta stones is as good as any other in so far as being disproved; any of them could be right. Equally, all could be wrong too. It will take solid hard evidence to prove any claims.
Oroblanco

ROFL .. you have not not seen the correct translations yet ... they are nothing alike my friend ,nothing !
up till now all there is is jokes and fakes
like joe 's map . he never said a word about the placer map on the stone why because he dose not even know there is one ...lol

 

[allan]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

lol what ever

Gee, I wonder why it is you against everyone else. how can you not see this to be fact? reality ? I tend to think anymore you are just a troll looking to incite and inflame ,I guess it come's down to the rendezvous and you proving it, but I tend to think you will come up with a good excuse why you can not make it or if you do make it you will say you received no respect and that nobody deserves to know where it is and you will say that you are just happy knowing that you were the one to find it and thats all that matters and you will continue this bob and weave around fact's and proof. Please do not get me wrong, if you do prove that you have found it I will be more than willing to post a mile long thread with my apologies, I will be shocked but not shocked enough that I can not give credit where due. I wish you all the luck in your quest as I do to all that seek it.

 

[Blindbowman]

Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

Only someone that has proof of the mine's whereabouts can prove any theory on translation wrong

lol what ever

Gee, I wonder why it is you against everyone else. how can you not see this to be fact? reality ? I tend to think anymore you are just a troll looking to incite and inflame ,I guess it come's down to the rendezvous and you proving it, but I tend to think you will come up with a good excuse why you can not make it or if you do make it you will say you received no respect and that nobody deserves to know where it is and you will say that you are just happy knowing that you were the one to find it and thats all that matters and you will continue this bob and weave around fact's and proof. Please do not get me wrong, if you do prove that you have found it I will be more than willing to post a mile long thread with my apologies, I will be shocked but not shocked enough that I can not give credit where due. I wish you all the luck in your quest as I do to all that seek it.

well the real realitiy here is the peralta once owned this mine ..they dont own it now ...

 

[Oroblanco]

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Blindbowman wrote

ROFL .. you have not not seen the correct translations yet ... they are nothing alike my friend ,nothing !
up till now all there is is jokes and fakes
like joe 's map . he never said a word about the placer map on the stone why because he dose not even know there is one ...lol

There you go again, (to misquote a famous popular former president) right back onto the stone maps translation. Stone maps translations are a dime a dozen. It looks like you can not present your case without that stone maps translation, is that true? The trouble is that the stone maps. despite weighing some 20 pounds each, will not tip the scales, so it will take different evidence not just a translation. Let me put this into one simple question; if you take the stone maps OUT of your equation, do you still have a gold mine? Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco