The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own
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the great deducer has spoken..bow everyone
Now, what I'd like to know is how you came to have the exact coords to the treasure site when the guy was allegedly murdered without giving up that information?
there you go...bumming for info without giving any...you heard the deal..come up with proof that those silly stones are real and they actually lead to a treasure around here and i'll produce the coords...there was another local guy looking for that treasure at the same time i was...he used to post here and you all know him..(or of him)...he stopped posting long ago because of a few arrogant know it alls that constantly harrass and pick apart other peoples posts...alot of people around here know me and i'm not known as a liar....i'll hold up my end of the deal if you come through...(although i know you will never come through because those silly stones lead nowhere lol)...the story of that treasure is a very interesting tale and i might tell it at the rendezvous if i feel like itNow, what I'd like to know is how you came to have the exact coords to the treasure site when the guy was allegedly murdered without giving up that information?
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I am just pointing out the contradiction in your story that the guy was murdered because he refused to reveal where the "treasure" was, yet you, and one other, and probably more know where it is. Did he just tell you and then refuse to tell someone even if it meant he would lose his own life? Just doesn't add up.
And Dave, we both know there is no way in heck you would give me or anyone coords to a site that could have the slightest possibility of buried treasure. That's just human nature. You're only offering it to me because you know it's been picked clean or gone over until absolutely nothing could be found. Nice try though.
I am just pointing out the contradiction in your story that the guy was murdered because he refused to reveal where the "treasure" was, yet you, and one other, and probably more know where it is. Did he just tell you and then refuse to tell someone even if it meant he would lose his own life? Just doesn't add up.
And Dave, we both know there is no way in heck you would give me or anyone coords to a site that could have the slightest possibility of buried treasure. That's just human nature. You're only offering it to me because you know it's been picked clean or gone over until absolutely nothing could be found. Nice try though.
nice try on your part to weasel more info (actually it wasnt a nice try..you must think we are stupid on here)....there is a reason why i dont go within a half mile of that site (which i wont go into here)....the info is out there if you want to do the research...you are the big shot greater than us deducer...get to deducing..let us know what you come up with..other than that my deal stands...show proof those silly stone maps lead to treasure or a rich mine in the supers and i will produce the coords....we can lay our cards on the table at the rendezvous...wait...you don't go to the rendezvous
..matter of fact nobody around here has the slightest idea who you are
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nice try on your part to weasel more info (actually it wasnt a nice try..you must think we are stupid on here)....there is a reason why i dont go within a half mile of that site (which i wont go into here)....the info is out there if you want to do the research...you are the big shot greater than us deducer...get to deducing..let us know what you come up with..other than that my deal stands...show proof those silly stone maps lead to treasure or a rich mine in the supers and i will produce the coords....we can lay our cards on the table at the rendezvous...wait...you don't go to the rendezvous
No, it's not weaseling for information, I'm not interested in the whereabouts of your site. Just pointing out why your story is incredulous, and somewhat hard for me to take at face value. But even then, you don't want to go within a half mile of that site, but you're more than happy to let me do that? Geez, Dave.
At any rate, nice of you to try and offer a deal but I have plenty to work with, within the area of interest that I'm involved with. Much more to be done there anyway. Don't worry though, when it comes time to reveal, you'll have plenty of chance to take your shots at me as will everyone else. The timing is not up to me, however.
No, it's not weaseling for information, I'm not interested in the whereabouts of your site. Just pointing out why your story is incredulous, and somewhat hard for me to take at face value. But even then, you don't want to go within a half mile of that site, but you're more than happy to let me do that? Geez, Dave.
At any rate, nice of you to try and offer a deal but I have plenty to work with, within the area of interest that I'm involved with. Much more to be done there anyway. Don't worry though, when it comes time to reveal, you'll have plenty of chance to take your shots at me as will everyone else. The timing is not up to me, however.
"when it comes time to reveal, you'll have plenty of chance to take your shots at me as will everyone else"
gee..how many thousand times have i heard that one...lol..hurry up deducer..we are all getting old waiting...and we still dont know who you are...your ideas might come across more believable if you were something more than just an entity here
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You'll just have to be patient. It's RG's show now anyway, and I'm eagerly looking forward to the next installment. And with that, I'm ending this back and forth because it's cluttering up the thread.
if you recall this started because you were bashing ryan's research ...something that some of us were actually interested in....if you would have been patient in the first place none of this would have happened...
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Perhaps just an "entity" to you Dave, but I can assure you he's a qualified and very competent entity. As is my other co-researcher/searcher.
Neither are new to this....or those mountains.
When "deducer" does decide it's time to meet more of those who make the Rendezvous what it is, you won't have any trouble seeing him.
He's a big boy, and even TK could probably hide behind him. Aside from that, you will also know him by the Latin script up and down his arms.
I'm sure it's there for good reason......a Holy Faith perhaps, but a good-guy to have at your back.
...'course, that's because I can't see nothin when he's out front.
And anyone coming up from behind, would have to get past him first.
But also have to say that he doesn't walk in lockstep....because it can't be done that way.
Neither are new to this....or those mountains.
When "deducer" does decide it's time to meet more of those who make the Rendezvous what it is, you won't have any trouble seeing him.
He's a big boy, and even TK could probably hide behind him. Aside from that, you will also know him by the Latin script up and down his arms.
I'm sure it's there for good reason......a Holy Faith perhaps, but a good-guy to have at your back.
...'course, that's because I can't see nothin when he's out front.
And anyone coming up from behind, would have to get past him first.
But also have to say that he doesn't walk in lockstep....because it can't be done that way.
wayne....i know he is your friend but to most of us out here (we live here)..he is still an entity....most civilized folk come out and introduce their selves...you are familiar around here..quite a few people know you....i look upon you as a person..not an entity...like i said before wayne....i've seen dozens of people that thought they had everything all figured out...every single one of them fell flat on their face when it came time to prove or produce evidence and deducer will be no exception...i'm not defending ryan here...he can defend himself...matter of fact i have no idea what he has come up with ..what i am defending is the fact that ryan did have the finance ,time and means to go to texas...spend 1.5 years there and uncover documents...whether these said documents are worth a crap or not ..i have no idea....but some of us would like to hear what was found and come to our own conclusions...and deducer's size means nothing to me..that kinda sounds like a threat
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Not a threat dave....to you or others who aren't threatening, but rather to those you have recently forewarned us about, who still roam the Superstitions.
It's just that I wouldn't want to be one of those, if things went haywire.
Therefore.....praemonitus, praemunitus .
It's just that I wouldn't want to be one of those, if things went haywire.
Therefore.....praemonitus, praemunitus .
lol...i'm sure most of the people that turned up missing in the mountains thought the same
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Geez you guys scare too easy.
just having a little fun with the stone map lunatics...lol
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dont forget the boogie man
Not him.
Whenever he hears I'm going down to Arizona, he hides under my bed.
Won't come out till he's sure I didn't bring anyone back.
my question to you is...if arizona and its people are so bad...then why do you come here?...
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my question to you is...if arizona and its people are so bad...then why do you come here?...
Awww dave......don'tcha know I love you guys ?
Even the hairy-stinky ones. I also tell all my friends about youz
I tell them "bigfoot is real">>>>>> I shook hands with him.
Seriously though.
I've been flying down to Arizona two or three times a year since "95. Originally for a business trip, then sightseeing from the ground and air.
Been spending five to 15 days out in the mountains each time, but didn't get involved in searching for any evidence of truth in the "treasure" legends until 2010. All the while, i've made it a point to get to know as many people as possible, and to make friends with as many of those as would extend a welcoming hand. You can look back through my posts, where you will find that aside from the odd elbow to the ribs, usually in response to the same, I am very supportive of America and Americans, especially those from Arizona.
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