Pirate Treasure-Trying to get a permit to dig up

[Bigdogdad]

Getting to the bottom of this treasure site, start as follows: Take a trailer to the site, rent a backhoe,
dig all the ground in a 20' circle down to 5' until trailer is full, take the load back to BDD's place and
dump, go back to site and dig another 5', load trailer and repeat placing this load on a different
space in BDD's yard leaving space between for the boys to run, now go back to church and make
sure your MD has batteries, begin a new search in all metal on VLFs or normal on PIs marking each
signal, call in the LRL crew and have each of them do their thing, write down their conclusions on
separate logs, call the remote guy to see if he is still 1000 miles away and if so conduct a brand
new reading, do not dig anymore until he points you to the positive exact point to dig, if the hole
is in the wrong spot from his new findings bring back all the excavated dirt and restore to original
condition. By this time day will be ending and its time to retire to your homes and analyze your
mission. To be continued.

I have a feeling my church guy does not want anything like this to happen in his front yard. No trailers, no backhoes, no publicity, he wants things kept on a low profile. I can post about it on here because no one reading this other then my guys will have a clue as to where this site is. Thanks for the advice. Maybe I will use some of it on another site.

 

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[Bigdogdad]

Apples and oranges. I dont understand the comparison because I dont know who on this thread found a mason jar of gold. I must have missed that one.

What is this? My find's better than your find...my find's better than yours...?

BDD's theme song. Turn up the volume.

Did I find something I don't know about? As a matter of fact I do have the greatest dogs in the whole world. Even the pug.

 

[Bigdogdad]

There is likely no gold at your site. ECS is using rational thinking, backed by research and common sense. Your spot is highly unlikely unless there is some reason that gold should be there. If the only thing your going by is dowsers and LRL's, then I have no doubt you will find no gold.

All one has to do is read TN for years to see that LRL's have produced nothing, dowsers have produced nothing. I am not saying you can't dowse for things, but the dowsing has evolved to people pulling up a map of the EARTH, and pointing to spots with gold……its ridiculous.

Gold may be in Florida, some caches, and certainly the spanish when wrecked moved some gold through Florida, but in general they were just going from south/central america/mexico to cuba, then unto spain. The activities of the spanish are highly documented, and much gold has been found at these locations that are documented. I have never heard of spanish gold being found at some random spot in florida that does not end up having some historical significance.

BDD, your a dreamer, you have gold fever. I hope you find gold. I would like nothing more than to see you post a horde. But just digging at places that have depressions in the land, near properties, are just going to yield pump systems and wells. Yes, people may throw stuff down wells, but 1/1000 wells are just that, just wells.

I will goto the beach today, I will likely find some coins, some trash, and hopefully some gold/silver if I am lucky. With your methods, the odds of you finding anything of significance are extremely rare.

There is likely no gold? Does that mean there may be?

All one has to do is read TN for years and then IGNORE ALL THE POSTS where people have claimed to have found things with LRL's and dowsing.

Gold may be in Florida? So your not sure if there is any gold in Florida? You and ECS are hung up on documentation. Are you two really so naïve to think that everyone documents it when they bury treasure? Do you really think that most people digging up gold are going to broadcast it? I am one of the few that would be stupid enough to do it.

Your damn right I am a dreamer and proud of it. I consider that an asset and not a liability. If I don't let you naysayers talk me out of trying to dig up some gold I will eventually find some, and it won't be some handful of loose pocket change.

Do you honestly think that I dug at the church just because there was a depression? The depression just happened to be in the exact location my remote sensor put me on, and no he could not tell there was a depression. I also never said anybody threw anything down a well. I said a possible cistern and I doubt they "threw" it. A cistern and a well are two totally different things. As far as the 1/1000 chance of anything to do with treasure or my story, I could care less about the odds. Being stopped because of odds is for sissies.

Good luck at the beach. Have a nice day.

 

[Bigdogdad]

I know you qualify for this position but you will not be accepted for the team. You are right where you belong. Sitting in a chair in front of your computer where it is all comfy and safe.

 

[Bigdogdad]

Sorry BDD, nobody like that here on TN...

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Nice shirt. Did you get that from ECS?

 

[Bigdogdad]

You are, like a hurricane
...There's fun in your eyes
And I'm getting blown away
...To somewhere safer where
the treasure stays...

My friends call me the "White Tornado". There is fire in my eyes. Thanks for the positive thoughts.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

My friends call me the "White Tornado". There is fire in my eyes. Thanks for the positive thoughts.

ANYONE that has raced and raced, and done several other dangerous things,
and lived to tell the tale, in one piece, has spirits that like or respect them, and,
will likely eventually accomplish, whatever they set their mind, heart and soul to do...

Even if they did have a brown recluse, sneak a nasty bite in on them.

Just my humble motor builder opinion... Crosse of Sign

 

[ECS]

There is likely no gold...

Gold may be in Florida? ... You and ECS are hung up on documentation. Are you two really so naïve to think that everyone documents it when they bury treasure? Do you really think that most people digging up gold are going to broadcast it? I am one of the few that would be stupid enough to do it.
I will eventually find some, and it won't be some handful of loose pocket change...

The point signal made is this"There has to be a reason" that gold was buried at that site beyond the asumption made by a remote dowser who probably has never set a foot on Florida ground.
The other point you seem to miss is the population and economy of those who lived in southwest Florida from 1820-1940.
If they had gold or silver,and had a reason to bury it,it would be a "handful of loose pocket change".
Yes there are the very few exceptions that I have mentioned ,but to be able to accumulate a wealth of gold and silver,and now you state diamonds,there had to be an economy in southwest Florida that could generate that kind of wealth.
Besides the cracker cattlebarons,what generated wealth for the other citizens of southwest Florida that would enable them to have enough gold to buy diamonds and then bury it all in caches?

 

[Limitool]

"You can lead a man to treasure but you can't make him dig." ... That's not true... check ancient / modern history. Many diamonds / gold are dug through slave labor.

"There is such a thing as a stupid question." ... Only when you / someone knows it all.

"Tomorrow is the day!"... That's a pessimistic view... Even Mel Fisher thought "Today is the Day"

"Common sense is no longer common." ... That you got RIGHT ON!!!!! Perfectly said.

"While the dog's away, the rats will play." ... Whatever, I got 7 dogs and rats everywhere!!!!!

Why do you address all the negative comments guy? Haven't you got anything better to do on a daily basis? If the negative comments "bother" you just hit the ignore button and they'll go away. I totally understand your drive to find "something"... we all do. Every one of us want to find something... especially a true treasure. But you spend half your time defending yourself and your "tomorrow plans" are just keep repeating yourself over and over and over. I really do wish you the best guy... But your signature "Common sense is no longer common" is just so true.

Please just ignore the negative comments and stay focused on finding the "treasure" and then post what you find to show off all your efforts. But to read continued comments in your own defense is just so old and boring. I've NEVER found anything I'd post as treasure yet... but I'm looking. Just stay focused on your efforts and let the negative comments "go away". This has turned into a soap opera at best.

 

[ECS]

My friends call me the "White Tornado"...

...for all the sound and fury and hot air?

 

[Bigdogdad]

ANYONE that has raced and raced, and done several other dangerous things,
and lived to tell the tale, in one piece, has spirits that like or respect them, and,
will likely eventually accomplish, whatever they set their mind, heart and soul to do...

Even if they did have a brown recluse, sneak a nasty bite in on them.

Just my humble motor builder opinion... Crosse of Sign

My passion for cars and motors is way stronger than for treasure. I have number of people trying to persuade me to re-edit my movie and get it on the market. I have a hard time focusing on just one thing.


My flame-shooting guitar leaning against my two piece rock invention. The wife's car. My brother's and I at Sebring.

My dog Smokey. My first night of shooting footage for my movie. Anybody recognize the guy on the right? DVD cover for my movie.First new car at 17 in 1973. My favorite car. Yeah I guess you could say I like cars and showing them off. As far as the brown recluse spider, he got the worst end of the deal.

 

[Bigdogdad]

The point signal made is this"There has to be a reason" that gold was buried at that site beyond the asumption made by a remote dowser who probably has never set a foot on Florida ground.
The other point you seem to miss is the population and economy of those who lived in southwest Florida from 1820-1940.
If they had gold or silver,and had a reason to bury it,it would be a "handful of loose pocket change".
Yes there are the very few exceptions that I have mentioned ,but to be able to accumulate a wealth of gold and silver,and now you state diamonds,there had to be an economy in southwest Florida that could generate that kind of wealth.
Besides the cracker cattlebarons,what generated wealth for the other citizens of southwest Florida that would enable them to have enough gold to buy diamonds and then bury it all in caches?

I am sure there is a reason that the gold may have been buried at this site. Whether I know what the reason is does not really matter at this point. It is either there or not there. You all can keep telling me it isn't but I am the one digging and that is the only way to find any buried gold anywhere.

The point you seem to miss is what difference did the economy make. If this cache is buried there it could have been buried by just one person. Besides the Ringling's and thousands of other rich people, Sarasota is different than lets say for instance Ocala. Sarasota has lots of rich people now and there were lots going way back.

Your statement that if they had gold or silver and a reason to bury it, it would be a "handful of loose pocket change" is absurd. How could even know what anyone had? Your reasoning is so off the wall it is laughable to me. Maybe other will agree with you. Perhaps you can invite them to your house and share some of your Kool-Aid.

Are you trying to say there was no economy in SW Florida that could generate wealth? The money changing hands was at first the silver standard until it became gold. That is what people with money had, gold and silver. Why is this so hard to get thru your numb skull? There have always been rich people. There have always been thieves and robbers. There have always been pirates of some sort even to this day. You have a very, very weak argument. Quit while you are a behind.

 

[Bigdogdad]

"You can lead a man to treasure but you can't make him dig." ... That's not true... check ancient / modern history. Many diamonds / gold are dug through slave labor.

"There is such a thing as a stupid question." ... Only when you / someone knows it all.

"Tomorrow is the day!"... That's a pessimistic view... Even Mel Fisher thought "Today is the Day"

"Common sense is no longer common." ... That you got RIGHT ON!!!!! Perfectly said.

"While the dog's away, the rats will play." ... Whatever, I got 7 dogs and rats everywhere!!!!!

Why do you address all the negative comments guy? Haven't you got anything better to do on a daily basis? If the negative comments "bother" you just hit the ignore button and they'll go away. I totally understand your drive to find "something"... we all do. Every one of us want to find something... especially a true treasure. But you spend half your time defending yourself and your "tomorrow plans" are just keep repeating yourself over and over and over. I really do wish you the best guy... But your signature "Common sense is no longer common" is just so true.

Please just ignore the negative comments and stay focused on finding the "treasure" and then post what you find to show off all your efforts. But to read continued comments in your own defense is just so old and boring. I've NEVER found anything I'd post as treasure yet... but I'm looking. Just stay focused on your efforts and let the negative comments "go away". This has turned into a soap opera at best.

In case you haven't noticed I reply to all comments on this thread that I started, just like I am now replying to your negative comments. Why are you posting on this thread? Haven't you got anything better to do? I hardly spend "half my time" defending myself. The only reason I have to keep repeating myself is because all of the critics on here keep posting the same crap over and over. Yeah it gets a little boring. Are you going to join them? Change channels if you don't like it. Welcome to the party, pooper.

Soap opera? Thanks for reminding me. Time to watch the "Young and the Restless". When is Adam coming back? I like him.

 

[Bigdogdad]

...for all the sound and fury and hot air?

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[ECS]

... you spend half your time defending yourself and your "tomorrow plans" are just keep repeating yourself over and over and over...
... But to read continued comments in your own defense is just so old and boring ...This has turned into a soap opera at best.

It always has been .

 

[ECS]

I am sure there is a reason that the gold may have been buried at this site. Whether I know what the reason is does not really matter at this point. It is either there or not there...

The point you seem to miss is what difference did the economy make. If this cache is buried there it could have been buried by just one person. Besides the Ringling's and thousands of other rich people... Sarasota has lots of rich people now and there were lots going way back.

Your statement that if they had gold or silver and a reason to bury it, it would be a "handful of loose pocket change" is absurd. How could even know what anyone had?

Are you trying to say there was no economy in SW Florida that could generate wealth? The money changing hands was at first the silver standard until it became gold. That is what people with money had, gold and silver. Why is this so hard to get thru your numb skull? There have always been rich people. There have always been thieves and robbers. There have always been pirates of some sort even to this day...

You have neglected the 1820-1940 time period I mentioned,and what could,during that time period could have raised enough wealth for one to bury gold,silver,and diamonds on a dairy farm and forget about it.
Yes,there have always been rich people,but how many during that time period,as for thieves and robbers,who was there for them to steal gold,silver,and diamonds from and then bury their gains on a dairy farm?
Would pirates bury their loot on a dairy farm?
When someone buries a cache the logic is that can return to that EXACT spot to retrieve it,not to leave it for others to find.
You mentioned John North Ringling,I doubt he buried his wealth,but he knew when clown time was over!

 

[xrunndonex]

Apples and oranges. I dont understand the comparison because I dont know who on this thread found a mason jar of gold. I must have missed that one.

What is this? My find's better than your find...my find's better than yours...?

BDD's theme song. Turn up the volume.

YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi84maqHgxg&feature=kp

No I'm comparing finding tokens to gold

 

[vor]

I have a feeling my church guy does not want anything like this to happen in his front yard. No trailers, no backhoes, no publicity, he wants things kept on a low profile.

White Tornado
Of course your "church guy" doesn't want anyone to see. He doesn't own the property but wants the goodies you've convinced him is there.

V

 

[xrunndonex]

What do you think about the new challenger coming out? 707hp 450ftlb of torque. Its called the hellcat comes with two key fobs one limiting it to 500hp. I think these things will be rapped around poles lol.

 

[Bigdogdad]

It always has been .

Yeah ECS and I like to pick at each other. He thinks we are both Alpha males so it is hard for us to be friends. I know males can get along as I have 4 intact 200 pound males that hang out and play together. If ECS and I were dogs we would probably be pals.

This could be us. This is probably more like ECS and I. A couple of Alpha males. Can't we all just get along?