Oak Island the Strange, the Bizarre, and Maybe the "Truth!

[tinpan]

Was that the Knights Templar Black Horse Patrol that traveled the West leaving four sided stone markers because they ran out of coir during the long journey across America?
Legend is that a modern day Shriner group adopted that name as homage of those brave Templars.

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

If the markers follow along the lines of the "Westford Knight" we may have to let our imaginations really run wild to recognize them. Or wait for the kids to finish working on them. ;-)

 

[lokiblossom]

If the markers follow along the lines of the "Westford Knight" we may have to let our imaginations really run wild to recognize them. Or wait for the kids to finish working on them. ;-)

In your own opinion Charlie, do you think the Westford is an actual man made carving?

Cheers, Loki

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

It is a glacial scraping that was embellished by kids (possibly of the Kitteredge family who lived nearby) adding a crude knife with "pecked" outline. The knife was later expanded to a sword with chalk and paint. Then in 1954 a shield was painted on and since various outlines of a human have been chalked and painted on.

I go with the findings of the Peabody Museum and Harvard Archeology Dept that the knife hilt and crossguard are 19th century and the rest natural with later repeated "doctorings" with chalk and paint for better images.

 

[lokiblossom]

It is a glacial scraping that was embellished by kids adding a crude knife with "pecked" outline. The knife was later expanded to a sword with chalk and paint. Then in 1954 a shield was painted on and since various outlines of a human have been chalked and painted on.

I go with the findings of the Peabody Museum and Harvard Archeology Dept that the knife hilt and crossguard are 19th century and the rest natural with later repeated "doctorings" with chalk and paint for better images.

Just curious, I've never really spent much time on it or the Newport thing which I guess is supposed to be remains of a 17th century windmill.

Cheers, Loki

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

PS - what's the FIRST thing a proper Scot does to mark a grave, battle, event? Raise a stone monument. Pile a cairn. NOT carve something in a large shelf where it is impossible to dig and bury someone. Or, if it was a marker. There is no history of flat (unraised) Scottish markers except as sarcophagus lids. They were big on standing stones.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Just curious, I've never really spent much time on it or the Newport thing which I guess is supposed to be remains of a 17th century windmill.

Cheers, Loki

Yeah Pretty much everyone except Scott Walter is of the opinion that the Newport Tower is the remains of a windmill.

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[franklin]

Just curious, I've never really spent much time on it or the Newport thing which I guess is supposed to be remains of a 17th century windmill.

Cheers, Loki

No sir the Newport Tower was built by the Knight's Templar. As they had a settlement located there. They also had a settlement at Westport.

 

[oredigger62]

No sir the Newport Tower was built by the Knight's Templar. As they had a settlement located there. They also had a settlement at Westport.

LMAO.... TOO FUNNY.

 

[ECS]

No sir the Newport Tower was built by the Knight's Templar. As they had a settlement located there. They also had a settlement at Westport.

The mortar in the Newport Tower was Carbon 14 tested along with other still standing buildings in Newport of similar mortar and stone construction and all were dated around 1680, which is 41 years after the founders split from Roger Williams Providence Plantation, and was most likely built by those founders as a grist mill.
The Newport Tower was mentioned in letters and documents by Governor Benedict Arnold and his father, as "the old mill". During the 1730's, it was utilized has a hay maw.
There is NO mention during that period of Templar activity in Rhode Island.

 

[franklin]

Too bad there are a lot of records missing.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

That's why it is important to study the remaining physical evidence and archeology carefully and with an open mind.

"Records" are not necessarily fully informed, truthful or factual reporting. Some are not committed to paper (or whatever medium) for decades or centuries and by scribes who were not present or fully aware of events.

General Sullivan burned an Indian Castle nearby (now named "Castle Creek") according to military dispatches and diaries that later digs show were bark and log store-houses for pumpkins and squash.

 

[franklin]

The mortar in the Newport Tower was Carbon 14 tested along with other still standing buildings in Newport of similar mortar and stone construction and all were dated around 1680, which is 41 years after the founders split from Roger Williams Providence Plantation, and was most likely built by those founders as a grist mill.
The Newport Tower was mentioned in letters and documents by Governor Benedict Arnold and his father, as "the old mill". During the 1730's, it was utilized has a hay maw.
There is NO mention during that period of Templar activity in Rhode Island.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The "Early Sites Research Center" in MA seems to not have a website, facebook page, "Yellow Pages" or white pages listing.

Perhaps the address is "in Mom's basement on the couch"?

The earliest manuscript record, wherein an allusion is made to the stone structure, is the Will of Governor Benedict Arnold; this was executed in 1678 being but 40 years from the settlement of the place. In this instrument it is alluded to, as his “stone built wind mill”. So that it will be observed, that even then it was denominated the mill as though it had been built, or at least used, for one{
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http://www.jasoncolavito.com/the-newport-tower.html

 

[ECS]

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James P Whittall II believed that Earl Henry Sinclair built the Newport Tower during his alleged last voyage as a church.
There is NO collaborating evidence supporting Whittall's claim, and Carbon 14 testing of the mortar and journals of the original founders of Newport support that the "tower" was a grist mill built around 1680.

 

[lokiblossom]

That's why it is important to study the remaining physical evidence and archeology carefully and with an open mind.

Excellent statement Charlie!!

Cheers, Loki

 

[lokiblossom]

No sir the Newport Tower was built by the Knight's Templar. As they had a settlement located there. They also had a settlement at Westport.

I'm not sure I agree with your assumptions Franklin, but I do find it interesting that all of a sudden C-14 dating is an accurate test.
According to Beta Analytic organic material found within the mortar is what is tested.

Beta also has some question about dating materials less than 300 years old (from before 1950)"C-14 dates as modern as 300+ years are highly suspect from a scientific standpoint".

Having been an operative mason I assume that organic material to be pieces of wood and or charcoal (from warming fires) that was accidentally mixed in.

Cheers, Loki

 

[ARC]

I cannot help it... heh

Why on Earth does anyone still think that a KNOWN possible location of treasure still holds the treasure after all these years... after all the attempts...

looked for over eons... by people with the abilities to hide the finding of said treasure if found.

What is it with people ? ? ?

Why would anyone with a clear head even begin to think that all others before them not find even so much of a trace of treasure.

IF there ever was a treasure...

Rest assured...

It has LONG AGO... been...........................Long gone.

You think anyone prior with absolute knowledge of a treasure being there would have left without it ? ? ?

 

[ECS]

Too bad there are a lot of records missing.

...but good for those who pick up the pen and create alternative historical events in a never ending presentation of history of the absurd.

 

[franklin]

James P Whittall II believed that Earl Henry Sinclair built the Newport Tower during his alleged last voyage as a church.
There is NO collaborating evidence supporting Whittall's claim, and Carbon 14 testing of the mortar and journals of the original founders of Newport support that the "tower" was a grist mill built around 1680.

How could it be built in 1680? When it is on 1630 Maps?