Oak Island - The contrarian views thread! Ver.II arrgggg! arrgggg!

[lokiblossom]

'Frobisher set sail in 1578 with 15 ships, 300 Cornish miners and enough Oak lumber to build a colony. It was the largest Arctic expedition in history.'
Captain Frobisher mined tons of Fool's Gold from oak island. This created the underground caverns - mining caverns.
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Just curious, but where did you find this information? I had thought Frobisher's three expeditions went far north of Nova Scotia. On all of them he had contact with the Iniut.
cheers, Loki

 

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[Ocean7]

Just curious, but where did you find this information? I had thought Frobisher's three expeditions went far north of Nova Scotia. On all of them he had contact with the Iniut.
cheers, Loki

So you think everything in the history book is gospel and that these pirates/privateers never lied or covered up their exploits? Or those they worked for including the Crown didn't cover things up?
Treasure Pit Vinland Viking Gold Oak Island - Crown Heist of Gold Earl of Oxford Edward de Vere


"Froude informs the Scottish youth
That parsons do not care for truth.
The Reverend Canon Kingsley cries
History is a pack of lies."
Bishop William Stubbs

 

[lokiblossom]

So you think everything in the history book is gospel and that these pirates/privateers never lied or covered up their exploits? Or those they worked for including the Crown didn't cover things up?
Treasure Pit Vinland Viking Gold Oak Island - Crown Heist of Gold Earl of Oxford Edward de Vere


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I just ask where you got the information is all.
cheers, Loki

 

[Ocean7]

yes, I understand. T'was just making a point about so called history that involves pirates/privateers working for the Crown or the High Society etc.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Posts edited...Let's watch the insults please.....

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[Ocean7]

Rick & Marty Lagina - if you haven't seen this, you might want to read the whole thing at Chester Bound. It may provide you with some useful information. Then again, it may be old news to ya.

"Evidence presented earlier points to British Government involvement upon Oak Island during the period 1752-54, and considerable effort has been made to seek documentary evidence from that period in open file.The results though sketchy, have been adequate enough to forge a link (see Part X) but, nevertheless, insufficient for that link to be considered indisputable."

Part X
"The concept of the Flood Tunnel, at least in principle, can be associated with Colonel Thomas Lascelles (1670-1751). Because of his death the task of translating concept into reality would have devolved upon John Henry Bastide, a much younger man, and one well suited to the task by his already lengthy experience of military works in Nova Scotia. Because of the secrecy and importance of the project it may be expected that Bastide would have supervised all on-site engineering while the bulk of the work was in progress. Strangely, Bastide is listed in the records as being ‘on vacation’ between 1751 and 1754, while other documentation shows him to have written letters from Annaplois Royal. Other subordinate engineers, such as William Bontein and William Cowley, would have undertaken specific tasks in line with their specialist engineering capabilities, i.e. tunneling and marine construction respectively.

A support group would have been necessary to provide the general labour, much along the lines of army pioneer corps today. Evidence has been presented in The Oak Island Treasure: The Military Cover-Up 1752-54 that this was provided by companies of Lascelles’s Regiment (47th Foot) who arrived in Nova Scotia in 1750. The commander of the 47th was Colonel Peregrine Lascelles, who appears to have been a relative of Colonel Thomas Lascelles, the Chief Engineer of Great Britain. Another member of the family who appears to have had a connection with the work, but remains a shadowy individual, was William Lascelles. Three members of the Lascelles family in the same place at the same time is surely suggestive of clandestine purpose!

The total workforce on Oak Island, during the excavation of the Flood Tunnel and the intake facilities within the Smith’s Cove Cofferdam, would have amounted to in excess of a hundred persons. Wives and children are also likely to have been present, swelling the numbers. With an overall project period of two years, or possibly somewhat longer allowing for initial preparation work and subsequent demolition, the presence of a large number of people on the island for that period would have left an everlasting legacy in the form of cesspits. These are likely to have been concentrated in the vicinity of a barracks/stores area. No matter how meticulous the clean up of the island after the project came to a successful conclusion, the cesspits would have remained. A useful exercise would be to map the island with this objective in mind." - THE OAK ISLAND TREASURE - Graham Harris
Oak Island Gallery

"The value of the Oak Island treasure is currently estimated as about $60 million, if one accepts the Phips Theory. This represents the approximate value of the treasure recovered from the wreck of the Concepción during the return expedition of 1687-88, known as the Phips-Narbrough Expedition. The treasure would be expected to consist of gemstones, e.g. emeralds, pearls and lapis lazuli, gold and silver plate and Chinese trade goods, e.g. Ming china." - THE OAK ISLAND TREASURE - Graham Harris

 

[Ocean7]

who's post was edited? or was one deleted that I didn't see?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Name edited out. Please post by rules, no insults..

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[Ocean7]

well if you are talking to me, I will not stand down when attacked by anyone on this Forum. That includes threats, insults, and innuendo made directly by someone or by their not-so-clever wing men and alias'. Jeff has already addressed this with that person but he did not stop at that point. And I have snapshots of that proof! I'll be glad to post them with timestamps if you'd like to see them.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

well if you are talking to me, I will not stand down when attacked by anyone on this Forum. That includes threats, insults, and innuendo made directly by someone or by their not-so-clever wing men and alias'. Jeff has already addressed this with that person but he did not stop at that point. And I have snapshots of that proof! I'll be glad to post them with timestamps if you'd like to see them.

You will post by our rules and report rule violations through the report icon or a pm to mods just like any other member is expected to do and let mods handle it.

When you break the rules it does not help..

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[Ocean7]

well I saved the posts, so your deleting that thread does not eliminate the evidence. You'll be hearing from me.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

well I saved the posts, so your deleting that thread does not eliminate the evidence. You'll be hearing from me.

When we delete a thread it is still there, guests and members just can't see it, admins and mods can still see threads and posts deleted.

Answered your pm.....

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[lokiblossom]

Now at this point it is interesting to note that the Oak Timber used in the Money Pit has been C-14 carbon dated around 1575.
Mystery stone found at 90 feet below surface translated to "Forty Feet below two million pounds are buried."

There are oak trees all over the area and I'm sure much of the wood from old Oak trees could be dated to many different years.
Does any of this answer the dating of the coconut fibre, which did not arrive there naturally?
And the mystery stone is indeed a mystery. For instance where is it?
Just a few questions I have to at least keep your discussion alive.
cheers, Loki

 

[Ocean7]

well like everything about Oak Island - it can all have been 'made up' by people looking for investor $$$.

 

[Ocean7]

Theory #2
Military engineered (British) - they built Money Pit and booby trapped the island.

Then a huge treasure was placed there from the wreck of the Concepción, or privateer operations raiding Spanish ships and settlements in the Caribbean, or something of this nature.

The question remains why would they leave it there? Would it have started a war with Spain if brought back to British
Isles at that time?

Oak Island Gallery

 

[Ocean7]

don't miss the stuff on here:
Oak Island Gallery

 

[Ocean7]

boorah! I see the Royal Gnat club is still working their craft.

 

[Ocean7]

it's so nice to see your posts hitting right after mine. Now that's talent!

 

[Dave Rishar]

I feel like I've missed something here.

 

[Ocean7]

yeah and I missed dinner tonight and last night - ahhahahahahaha