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[wrmickel1]

They will fit in a number of places, in at least two cases extremely well. Just open your mind to other possibilities, don't assume that because a set of maps was allegedly found NEAR the Superstition mountains then they MUST be of that place. If I dropped a map of Nova Scotia at the Peralta trailhead, you would not assume that map must be of the Superstitions, so why do so many assume the stone maps MUST go to the Superstitions? Even the scale is wrong - the eighteen 'dots' would logically mark camping sites for a day's travel and it doesn't take eighteen days to traverse the full length of the Superstition mountains. Just look at the knife and the arrow, one of them probably would point north right? Then look at where the Spanish and the missionaries were historically active in the southwest, not just Arizona either, remember the whole area including Texas, Colorado, Nevada, Utah and California were all part of the Spanish dominions and were being actively 'missionized' for two full centuries.

Deducer wrote


I see that others already answered with links to the report.

Oro

Each Dot don’t mean days or camp. It just a Old Spanish Survey Marks, The entire Trail equals 8 miles.

Babymick1

 

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[Al D]

Oro

Each Dot don’t mean days or camp. It just a Old Spanish Survey Marks, The entire Trail equals 8 miles.

Babymick1

Wrong

 

[wrmickel1]

It is very easy to prove, you just have to count to eight, you can do that can’t you baby?

Alan

As usually your interpretation of what you read is let’s say, Special. Mom most likely told you a lot that your Special. And bought you a little Blue Bus. No one said they were found in the creek bed. Up the bank by the creek bed. My house sits by a river since 1910. The river floods every year and never once got the house wet.

Assuption Old wise one is not Conviction

You been proved wrong again.
two wrongs don’t make a Right.
It makes you Special like Forrest.

Babymick1

 

[Al D]

Alan

As usually your interpretation of what you read is let’s say, Special. Mom most likely told you a lot that your Special. And bought you a little Blue Bus. No one said they were found in the creek bed. Up the bank by the creek bed. My house sits by a river since 1910. The river floods every year and never once got the house wet.

Assuption Old wise one is not Conviction

You been proved wrong again.
two wrongs don’t make a Right.
It makes you Special like Forrest.

Babymick1

You have never proved anyone wrong, and you cannot back up one single statement you make, it is all hogwash, just like your latest that the trail on the maps is only eight miles, do you even think before you spout off?
obviously your mother listened intensively to every BS story you could come up with and you think that everyone should do the same, haha, sorry, I am not your Huckelberry

 

[Al D]

My house sits by a river since 1910. The river floods every year and never once got the house wet

Babymick1

You should quit before you really embarrass yourself, you obviously know nothing about the effects of flash floods in the desert, are there any deserts in North Dakota?, didn’t think so

 

[azdave35]

You have never proved anyone wrong, and you cannot back up one single statement you make, it is all hogwash, just like your latest that the trail on the maps is only eight miles, do you even think before you spout off?
obviously your mother listened intensively to every BS story you could come up with and you think that everyone should do the same, haha, sorry, I am not your Huckelberry

kinda like the gold painted 2x4's

 

[coazon de oro]

What is the point of looking for Weaver's Needle from that particular spot? What purpose does that serve? He would have been better off going up 88 to the vista if he really wanted to see it from the road.

What kind of debate is this? Travis was no different than yourself, what's the point in your auto restoration projects in a treasure forum? You would better off going to an auto forum. I'm done

 

[coazon de oro]

There is no way that the story of how the stones were found, which was told by Clarence Mitchell, could be true.
proof: duplicate the actions, eight paces north and then eight paces magnetic north, the difference is less than three feet.
there is no way that this difference could have been determinant in finding the other stones.
also to consider, Queen Creek floods regularly, so how many time since 1847 to 1949 did it flood? How could the stones have remained where they were allegedly buried?
the whole story is a fabrication.

Howdy alan,

With all due respect, I was not using Clarence Mitchell's story. Travis came back about a year later after he had studied the P/H stone which tells you to look for the other stones in the same hole. I don't know if Travis figured this out, or just dug in the same hole to see if there was anything else there.

The buried stones were never in any flood danger, they were 40 feet higher than the bridges that are there today.

Homar

 

[deducer]

i'm not even sure you can see the needle from florence junction...i'll have to ride out and see

If memory serves right, you can just see the very tip of it if you go to the highest point on the south side of QC, near where the holes are. That is why I question that Travis stopped there just to see if he could see it- it's too far away.

 

[deducer]

What kind of debate is this? Travis was no different than yourself, what's the point in your auto restoration projects in a treasure forum? You would better off going to an auto forum. I'm done

I am asking you a question- why would Travis look for the needle there? I have been there, have you?

And nobody is forcing you to read a thread about auto restoration- you have the ability to ignore it.

 

[dredgernaut]

I am asking you a question- why would Travis look for the needle there? I have been there, have you?

And nobody is forcing you to read a thread about auto restoration- you have the ability to ignore it.

there is no thread here about auto restoration, read the titles yourself. this is a treasure hunting forum.... we should not have to ignore it. surprised you cant figure that out... specially since you have called people out for staying on topic … whos off topic now.

 

[Al D]

Howdy alan,

With all due respect, I was not using Clarence Mitchell's story. Travis came back about a year later after he had studied the P/H stone which tells you to look for the other stones in the same hole. I don't know if Travis figured this out, or just dug in the same hole to see if there was anything else there.

The buried stones were never in any flood danger, they were 40 feet higher than the bridges that are there today.

Homar

Mitchell’s story of how and where the stones were found is the only one I am aware of, it also must have been the first published story, meaning one that has not changed over time from continuous retelling.
could you please provide your source? I am very interested it putting this issue to bed.
thanks in advance

 

[wrmickel1]

You should quit before you really embarrass yourself, you obviously know nothing about the effects of flash floods in the desert, are there any deserts in North Dakota?, didn’t think so

Well sure there is Alan, The badlands western ND. Flash floods uncover Fossils all the Time, They just opened a exhibit of the most complete T Rex ever found at the Smithsonian in June of this year.

You never been in North Dakota have you.

babymick1

 

[Al D]

Well sure there is Alan, The badlands western ND. Flash floods uncover Fossils all the Time, They just opened a exhibit of the most complete T Rex ever found at the Smithsonian in June of this year.

You never been in North Dakota have you.

babymick1

Nope, I never have, but I have been to South Dakota, they have bad lands as well

 

[Al D]

Howdy alan,

With all due respect, I was not using Clarence Mitchell's story. Travis came back about a year later after he had studied the P/H stone which tells you to look for the other stones in the same hole. I don't know if Travis figured this out, or just dug in the same hole to see if there was anything else there.

The buried stones were never in any flood danger, they were 40 feet higher than the bridges that are there today.

Homar

I have been to that area many times, I do not recall any location that was 40 feet higher than the bridge, except the rocky ridge to the East

 

[wrmickel1]

Nope, I never have, but I have been to South Dakota, they have bad lands as well

Well welcome to the Badlands, Mostly made up of kimberlite stacks.

babymick1

 

[wrmickel1]

Alan

If you think it’s hot in AZ. There is a difference here. You’ll have a 105 day here with 100 percent Humidity and it will soak your socks from all the drippings from your body above.

babymick1

 

[Al D]

Alan

If you think it’s hot in AZ. There is a difference here. You’ll have a 105 day here with 100 percent Humidity and it will soak your socks from all the drippings from your body above.

babymick1

I grew up in Michigan so I am no stranger to humidity, I hate it

 

[Al D]

And snow, I hate snow

 

[azdave35]

Alan

If you think it’s hot in AZ. There is a difference here. You’ll have a 105 day here with 100 percent Humidity and it will soak your socks from all the drippings from your body above.

babymick1

its been 115-118 here with humidity..i've lived in states with high humidity and i dont see how you stand it...its like being underwater