David and the Peralta stone maps.

[Quinan Bear]

I am sure you all would like to know, where that vein came from but i am not permited to say, sorry.

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

David: That is from the right hand tunnel, second level of Los Remedios. How did you get the photgraph? Will have to check on security, butts will burn.

Don Jose d e La Mancha

 

[Quinan Bear]

I guess I'm a little more resourceful then you may think.

 

[somehiker]

David:
Being new to all of this,you wouldn't know,but that same photo has been used to illustrate the appearance of a gold vein by many before,including myself.It has been attributed to gold mines from Australia to Nevada and can even be found at least one mining company's promotional literature.Most of us have seen it before.Some of us have personal photos of very similar veins as well.
Our old friend "Santa Fe" used two such photo's of mine in one of his You-Tube videos,without my permission.

SH.

 

[somehiker]

some hiker: good morning my friend: I believe that your Archaeologists are far off base.

A) No center pivot post hole.

B) No capacity for the work involved.

C) The drag stones, if used, would be too small to have enough weight to actually work efficiently..

D) who, or what, would use the excavated outer wear paths?

E) Notice the postholes for erecting a roof. The rings were prob for seating comfortably.


Don Jose de La Mancha

My Amigo:

I don't believe that the archaeologists have any explanation for the artifact,other than the identity of those that created it,nor does it seem to resemble any dwelling base or foundation known to me.The slope on which it is located would likely render it useless for habitation.If the only complete ring of postholes is found between the two rings,in what direction would one face when seated.With nose against the wall?
I doub't that either the Hohokam or the Salado had the labour saving advantages of (loving )mules or burros so there wouldn't have been a need for a center post to keep them and the drag stones on track.Not sure that a pre-columbian arrastra should be identical to a spanish one anyway,other than being round so as to keep whatever is being reduced to powder in a confined area.Since we do know that foodstuffs were commonly pounded and ground in this kind of rock and in the same kind of holes that pepper this area,can we assume that the grooves themselves are the result of grinding something requiring more effort? I would also think that one or two humans could not drag stones of the size that were commonly used where draft animals were available.
Also likely,considering the primitive tooling available,that the size of that being processed was limited to smaller pieces of rock and float.I'm not sure that a high rate of productivity would have been a requirement,as that was something more important to europeans.The two parallel grooves,inner and outer,suggest to me that two drag stones were used,attached to a spreader bar of some kind.It is also possible that some of the outer holes may have anchored posts that supported a framed canopy for shade,something that was common in the villages of the Hohokam and Salado etc.

Regards:SH.

 

[Cubfan64]

QB - Been to Zambia recently?

http://www.zambia-mining.com/exploration.html

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

QB - Been to Zambia recently?

http://www.zambia-mining.com/exploration.html

He is not permitted to say!

 

[somehiker]

No answer. Maybe he's out of town,Paul.
Can you see him in this pic?

Regards:SH.

 

[Quinan Bear]

I was sent that photo and told not to say who sent it. How was I to know where it came from?
I posted it to show you what it looks like. Did you not "read" my post?




Has anyone followed the cactus trail to see where it would take you? I'm talking about the ones with the old Gashes in them.

 

[cactusjumper]

David,

I am always amazed at how you guy manage to dance with your foot in your mouth.

Joe

 

[cactusjumper]

Paul,

I looked for that site myself, but ran out of interest. Either a very nice search, or you are the one who sent the picture to David.......

Take care,

Joe

 

[somehiker]

Joe:
Them East Coasters do dance a bit different,especially the Newfies.
Must be the Screech.
Paul's link worked fine for me....I saved it for the next time that someone uses the photo without attributing it.
A google search of "gold vein photos" brings up that photo,as well as another that we have seen before as well.

Regards:SH.

 

[Cubfan64]

How was I to know where it came from?

Took me all of 15 seconds to find the photo online - it's called doing your own "due dilligence" when someone sends you a photo with no reference - something every good researcher does. Seems you should have already learned the importance of either sticking to posting your own photos or making certain you have permission to post the others.

SH and CJ - yup, all I did was do a google image search under "gold vein 20%" - it was the first photo on the second page.

 

[cactusjumper]

Paul,

Very nice. That's exactly what I did, only I forgot to tag on "photo" at the end. Do it this way: [gold vein 20% photo] and it's the first thing on the page.

Just can't wait to see what the next oracle will bring us.
Hope all is well.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Quinan Bear]

Wow!
I am talking about Stone maps and lost gold mines and you guys are all worried about a simple photo. You guys gotta lighten up some.

 

[cactusjumper]

David,

Keep posting........you are loosing ground in leaps and bounds.

Joe

 

[Quinan Bear]

Am I now?

Well let's see what you guys of this?

Here is a pic of a place that matches most of the LDM directions. I found these 3 white rocks, by following the Map that was cavered on a rock wall on Black top mesa.

 

[Old Dog]

Here we go

 

[Cubfan64]

Wow!
I am talking about Stone maps and lost gold mines and you guys are all worried about a simple photo. You guys gotta lighten up some.

See the problem is all a matter of credibility - in this "business," all it takes is a few "mistakes" like you've made to lose all manner of credibility.

As CJ said, you're losing it in leaps and bounds.

That said, your best bet is to just quit talking here, get the guys you've recruited (?) to go out and find the specific things you've pointed out on your GoogleEarth images and then get your name in the papers. There's nothing to be gained by continuing your posts here in my opinion as it's getting you no closer to proving your theories to be true.

 

[Quinan Bear]

Credibility

Why would it matter to me if you want to believe me or not any more? you guys are not interested in helping me. You don't even show much interest in how I got my information and how i followed the stone to the places i found, you just mock me or dismiss it without really looking at what I post.. You guys did get me to show you the Heart but that is all i will show you till you are proven that i was right about that area. How i got there by following the stones will be kept to myself.

As far as Jacob's mine is concerned. He told you that he left two markers before the mine (along the way) and one at the mine. I am sure you guys have seen the first marker, it is quite well known. He also said that he carved a face with his knife on the western side of the canyon and that it looked into the mine entrance. This is not a "stone" face your are to look for. But you don't listen to me any how so what's the difference? Too bad really, you may have missed a chance to see these directions in a different way or give you another perspective on these places.

Happy hunting.