Basic signs and symbols you have found

[okey dokey]

Shortstack,
It seems that I remember that a turtle with no legs and neck out meant you are there. I suspect that the ridge on his back corresponds with the bluff I was standing on. I am not sure what the 3 depressions are about. Perhaps 3 burial places. Thanks for your comments.
okey dokey

 

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[Old Dog]

well guys I am sorry for being late, I took my wife fishing.
Larry you are correct. Look to see if the eyes are closed.
The turtle has reached his destination and will sleep.
If not head out in the direction the head points...
Even if stuff is in the way.

(I'm willing to bet you aren't too late.) !!

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Seekeroforo,

Forget about signs and markers at your site.

It looks very much like there is a shaft right in your picture. Sometimes we read too much into something, when the object of desire is right in front of us.

Look at the area I put the red square around. Notice how the varnish or dark rock disappears behind that big light colored rock. If you can get a truck to the spot, yank that light colored rock out of the face. It looks like it is blocking the entrance of a shaft. If you can't get a truck up there, then try very heavy hand winches, or drag a generator and electric jackhammer to the site, and break up that rock and take it out piece by piece.

Also, notice how there is long grass all around the spot except for the area leading up to the light rock. Looks like that was a well used area in the past.
Best-Mike

I don't know if you realize it yet but, that is not seekeroforo's site. It's a mannings site. That is of course providing they are not working together locally
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149002.msg2253220.html#msg2253220

Also, there is boot and a silhouette. The square rock is about waist high.

 

[mannings]

Seekeroforo,

Forget about signs and markers at your site.

It looks very much like there is a shaft right in your picture. Sometimes we read too much into something, when the object of desire is right in front of us.

Look at the area I put the red square around. Notice how the varnish or dark rock disappears behind that big light colored rock. If you can get a truck to the spot, yank that light colored rock out of the face. It looks like it is blocking the entrance of a shaft. If you can't get a truck up there, then try very heavy hand winches, or drag a generator and electric jackhammer to the site, and break up that rock and take it out piece by piece.

Also, notice how there is long grass all around the spot except for the area leading up to the light rock. Looks like that was a well used area in the past.
Best-Mike

I don't know if you realize it yet but, that is not seekeroforo's site. It's a mannings site. That is of course providing they are not working together locally
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149002.msg2253220.html#msg2253220

Also, there is boot and a silhouette. The square rock is about waist high.

Well ... that would be more likely than my having been collaborating with oddrock ..

(Note: Not at all a slam on/toward oddrock, just general humor)

 

[oddrock]

Mannings,

See you still got me on your mind. (and after I had buried the hatchet and moved on) This old country boy had to go to Webster's code book to decipher your hidden meaning.
"collaborate"
1. work with others
2. assist the enemy

I have always thought it best to have a real good enemy as opposed to a half-ass friend
At least you know where you stand that way.

 

[Old Dog]

I need to repeat something I posted sometime back in response to several emails.


Author Lou Layton made a point in his book about measurements that stands out as 100% truth.
I am an advocate of this particular info and have preached it to many.

When using a vara as a unit if measurement it should be noted that a vara is 33 inches. HOWEVER... the inch used was not the same inch we use today. The inch the Spanish used to achieve their 33inch measure was .914 of our inch.
This makes a vara right at 30 of our regular inches.

for example to use Lou's analogy
If a set of signs says go 600 varas East using a regular modern inch and a 33 inch vara you would go about 150 feet too far.
Chasing Spanish markers 150 feet is a long way to miss a marker by.

Something to consider when walking off a vara.
It is a Spanish measurement, and to get it we need to use Spanish measurements.

 

[oddrock]

Old Dog

Excellent point.

 

[Old Dog]

Thanks Larry for that piece of info.

 

[okey dokey]

And we give Lou his due honor.


Okey dokey

 

[Old Dog]

Lou being the most recently published and used as a source author,
In this case it is only right to give credit in both cases.
Thanks again.

As you stated, some is suspect and some stands out.
We can at least give the stand out good coverage.

 

[Old Dog]

To keep a promise I made some time ago...
and to answer several emails to that question.
The pozo sign looks like a covered shaft sign. it is primarily used to show where a pozo was sealed up.
It indicates where a large flat stone was fitted into the hole covering the pozo (air shaft) and usually caliched in to conceal it.

 

[goldguru]

THnx Thom

 

[Old Dog]

aught to explain that acorn looking sign you've been finding.
LOL
Thom

 

[10claw]

did they use this sign upside down?

 

[Old Dog]

I haven't heard of it upside down, but I have seen it on it's side with the bottom part pointing.
I have also seen one of the ladder signs with it.
Spanish mines are measured in ladders, the pozo will be dug in steps of 8 to 10 feet.
Each step will have a 10 foot ladder or chicken pole (a log or pole with notches, used as a ladder)
Each line on the ladder sign is a step, if counted they will tell how deep the mine (or pozo) actually is.

 

[Shortstack]

Even though that last photo is out of focus, you can still see at least 2 faces.......one young, and one old.



Edited: Well, I just recounted and there are 5 faces; blended and overlapping.

 

[rsgt513]

Old dog,
Ive been following this thread and rereading it and this one picture you posted (sorry might have been from another thread) really stuck with me for some reason.
I have been learning a lot here since finding this site and this is just incredible! Anyway, I circled in blue on this pic what I think is another face in the lower portion of pic and then what looks like an unfinished face next to the large obvious one. Are my eyes playing tricks on me or am I starting to pick some of this wonderful knowledge you all have been so kind to share. Also what would be the significance of the mouth being open or closed on some of these monuments?

Thank you
Doug

 

[Old Dog]

Old dog,
Ive been following this thread and rereading it and this one picture you posted (sorry might have been from another thread) really stuck with me for some reason.
I have been learning a lot here since finding this site and this is just incredible! Anyway, I circled in blue on this pic what I think is another face in the lower portion of pic and then what looks like an unfinished face next to the large obvious one. Are my eyes playing tricks on me or am I starting to pick some of this wonderful knowledge you all have been so kind to share. Also what would be the significance of the mouth being open or closed on some of these monuments?

Thank you
Doug

Doug,
The Large face is ancient, it predates the Spanish by centuries.
The other faces may have been earlier versions that were worked over to oblivion and replaced by the larger much more prominent one.
The significance of the face, and more importantly the Ancient, is that the Spanish knew it was here and they came looking specifically for it. The common theory is that the Spanish collected the ancient caches and relocated them.

According to the rules the Spanish went by the open mouth indicated an open shaft or cave entrance left open.

In the picture I circled (in red) the sign of a Spanish expedition that came through here chasing these ancient signs,
as circled there is a horse above a shield.

I hope this explains some for you.

 

[Old Dog]

Desertrat,
Where did your pictures go?
I have circled a spot that is of interest, what is on this face?

That is an awesome sentinel.

 

[Old Dog]

In response to another promise made a while back,...
I said I would post these when I got them all together.

Here is a list of KGC survey marks.
Note that the Spanish used them as well, and the meanings are all the same.