Basic signs and symbols you have found

[Mr.Jody]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Old Dog, in the pics you posted, how in the world do you think that wedge shaped rock got there?just wondering....

 

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[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

I would suspect it was moved to the edge and levered into position.
Some of these things are pretty easy when you get to actually putting two and two together.
There is a fellow in the north east who poured some long concrete slabs and demonstated how to move and stack them without anything more than a hand full of small stones and a firewood pile as equipment.
Without help, built a copy of stone henge in his back yard.

I think these Spanish were smarter than we tend to give them credit for.

Thom

 

[rjwmam]

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You all have been talking about ugly signs and symbols, but this is probably one if the coolest looking ones that was just spotted.

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Real neat, you have several just in that one photo, thank you for sharing dsty

I must be blind then, where are they and what. I was stoked just to get the horse head.

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

The ear, the alligator head above the horses head, the face looking down at the end of the horses neck, I need to flip and turn to look for more,may be something in or around the mouth and on the nose. Those are just things that I see, they may not be there, just possibilities. dsty

I see them all now. Pretty cool. Thanks for pointing those out.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Ryan,

That is an awesome horse,
look closely at the ear, and the attitude it projects.

That horse is a little pissed off.
My question is why.
A treacherous trail with many threats?
Just getting the horse into this place in the first place?

that horse is angry. Period.
I wonder why.

Thom

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thom,

I would have to agree with you. That horse is not happy. Once again it was one found by my brother but he said that it was not hard to get to. But I would imagine that it may have been rather difficult a few hundred years ago. Could it also mean that the horse promises great retribution to those that try to take the king's 5th that might be close by?

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

The nose of the horse is the pointer.
Go in the direction that the horse is going.

The attitude of the horse probably has to do with the upcoming trail.
It may be very hard on the horse or frightening to horses and the travelers made a special note of it for those who followed.

all supposition on my part.
but this is not a normal ambling easy going horse.

Thom

 

[hagerman]

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this topic is gettting to far down the list. please dont let it die. I dont have any signs to post or anything but i do enjoy learning and seeing what yall get to find and id hate for this topic to die off.

 

[desertmoons]

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It won't die off hagerman. Its just on hiatus for a bit. I will be posting an eye catcher in the next day or two and maybe a another thing or two. I love this thread too!

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

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Here is my picture contribution to the topic, This hugh marker is propped up on a cliff overlooking a valley! Pic #1.........................The way it is pointing down the cliff to the mouth of the canyon "over grown smooth path in red"

 

[aarthrj3811]

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This rock was found on a friends property. Can anyone give me information about what it meansArt

 

[djui5]

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Here is my picture contribution to the topic,

That's neat

 

[desertmoons]

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Hey T Parker, nice pic!

It looks like there is a line of rocks, then an open space for the trail. Sure is fun following these isn't it? Looks like the marker may be propped by some smaller rocks too.

 

[desertmoons]

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Wow arthur..that rock would keep me busy with a compass for hours..hehe. I'd measure out lengths of everything, angles, directions, depths and widths. The try to apply to the surrounding landscape


Remember I am not an expert and have only uninformed speculation to add. Yep will admit it..I am just learning myself.. But the little triangle formed by 3 holes, with the two grooves in the middle. Perhaps the grooves mean two streams, two ridges, two gullies or canyons or something like that. So perhaps you will find markers in the bigger landscape, around two of something. You might not be looking for three markers (one for each hole of the triangle) ..but two markers as this rock itself might be one of the apexes.

Then there is the bigger triangle formed by that big hole and shallower circles.

I've read elsewhere, that looking at mid point of a triangle edge and also right in the center is a good thing to do. All the other lines..perhaps it is an actual map. If so...well it may not be Spanish but outlaw or something else. Or it could be a map of mine and caches.

On the big fat arrow, i notice one of the edges of the point, has another arrow that points backwards to the big arrow. I'm would think that is significant. Perhaps you are suppose to reverse all directions..just an idea.

The other thought would be this might be a map of how to get to a mine, and also a layout of the mine shafts themselves.

Anyway...just some ideas. I believe you will need to undertake a serious study of Spanish maps - (especially triangles) and markers to come to a conclusion.

Hope it gives ya some ideas. Again, take it as speculation only..but measuring, taking bearings and looking around the area is what I would do with it.


Thanks much for posting it.

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

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Hey T Parker, nice pic!

It looks like there is a line of rocks, then an open space for the trail. Sure is fun following these isn't it? Looks like the marker may be propped by some smaller rocks too.

The marker rock was stood up and braced with a good size smaller one from behind, "Then it was Carved Out" Will have more pics in a few weeks.

 

[desertmoons]

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T Parker, I've read saguro can be used as signs too, don't know much about them. But unless the cactus are very slow growing, those look a little young but thought I'd mention it. You probably knew that already though. hehe. . Look forward to your pics!

Here are a couple of snakes. As Thom so rightly surmised, after a while it is easier to see smaller signs.


The first one points to a trail marker a short distance away, a trail marker that means it might suitable for animals. The second one is a along a trail. You know hikers are fond of piling rocks, but this one looks quite different from your normal hiker pile. Snakes supposedly can have other meanings too. But in these two cases they are trail markers.

 

[BenThereDoneThat]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

T Parker, I've read saguro can be used as signs too, don't know much about them. But unless the cactus are very slow growing, those look a little young but thought I'd mention it. You probably knew that already though. hehe. . Look forward to your pics!

Yep....On my way out i found three saguaro that were topped and one that had a square notch cut into it facing the canyon i had just come out of. The cut is between 12 and 15 feet off the ground.....so they were done some time ago, From what i understand the Mexicans would use the cactus in such a way to mark trails.
Its neat to find things like that.........But you never really know whats original(Before Az became apart of the U.S.) or what was made 20-50 years ago by ranchers / prospectors or vandals !!!!!!!

Also to give you some perspective on the cacti growing on that trail..............The brushy overgrowth is chest high.

 

[Brokenpot]

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Yes, definitely. I mean no disrespect to anyone, I am just trying to learn and so that is why I posted the question. I hope that one day I can be as knowledgeable as Thom as well as the others that have been treasure hunting for a considerable time. I consider myself fortunate to have found tnet.com. There is some good education here that cannot be found anywhere else.

 

[rangler]

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Parker T said....On my way out i found three saguaro that were topped and one that had a square notch cut into it facing the canyon i had just come out of. The cut is between 12 and 15 feet off the ground.....so they were done some time ago, From what i understand the Mexicans would use the cactus in such a way to mark trails.

Yes and the Spanish too. that is where the Mexicans learned it from...they can live 125 years or more, a cut that high would have been done on horse back,for other mounted folks to see. The square means Cache, others will naysay you and show you picture of square bird holes, but the holes came first then the birds found a ready made home..

The way to tell if you cactus is real and not just mother nature or vandals, is look for banding around the base..one or two or more bands cut around the circumference. Kenworthy and Hawkeye spells this out pretty good.

Anyway when you go back ,face the canyon and look for a rock, eye catcher type usually white in the desert outback..it may even be diamond shaped if your lucky, or triangle, it will be waaaay out there, follow it..photo all the large boulders or outcropping around it..look for the usual suspects, animal heads, people faces, compass headings two to three numbers, Bible Verses, Letter and numbers. Like Desert Moons says, check the skyline, look for anything out of place, hoyos, notches, straight lines right angles ect...
hoyos. holes that you can see the sky thru, photo these..they all are clues to confirm an Alpha Monument. That is where you start,

More when you get down that trail that far
auferiously
rangler


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