Treasure of the 7th Seal... NOT the Beale Treasure

[Justintime]

Ben Franklin wanted the seal to depict Moses parting the red sea with a Pharaoh on fire, wanted to build a dam into the ocean,rerouting the gulfstream,freezing out England. There are many perilous enterprises secretly at work. Bacon did inspire many, I wonder what inspires him. Bacon was more than what iffs. It wasn't just Bacon, but many, he couldn't have done it him self. There's no king or Queen here in the US , something worked. Lol..mythical what was the Driving Force in a few Weeks the requisite number had signed the conditions,and were admitted as a member of the party. If the Box was lost It would be irreparable. See the Necessity of Guarding it with,vigilance and care to prevent so great a Catastrophe. Still be Cherished,though partially forgotten..Legacies there were the servers, for your services,ect. They received It, served it on. The way its always been. Thats sad for It, the object in veiw. Justintime... =

 

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[bigscoop]

Ben Franklin wanted the seal to depict Moses parting the red sea with a Pharaoh on fire, wanted to build a dam into the ocean,rerouting the gulfstream,freezing out England. There are many perilous enterprises secretly at work. Bacon did inspire many, I wonder what inspires him. Bacon was more than what iffs. It wasn't just Bacon, but many, he couldn't have done it him self. There's no king or Queen here in the US , something worked. Lol..mythical what was the Driving Force in a few Weeks the requisite number had signed the conditions,and were admitted as a member of the party. If the Box was lost It would be irreparable. See the Necessity of Guarding it with,vigilance and care to prevent so great a Catastrophe. Still be Cherished,though partially forgotten..Legacies there were the servers, for your services,ect. They received It, served it on. The way its always been. Thats sad for It, the object in veiw. Justintime... =

"The way it's always been?" And that bit of history is documented/recorded where, exactly?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

AGAIN... Looking at the Treasure of the 7th Seal, THIS interesting... Foundations Unearthed
STILL not the Beale Treasure/Cipher(s).

 

[bigscoop]

It bothers me the most that there is a very large hole off to the right of the photograph. That is the exact spot where the old church center and the Bruton Vault would have been located at that exact spot. If the Bruton Vault was still occupied then the Rockefeller Restoration or Foundation would have already uncovered the 33 copy cylinders of 144 treasures. Maybe that is why the RF is so huge today.

For the sake of friendly debate, where is the proof that the 33 copy cylinders of 144 treasures ever really existed, beyond myth?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

For the sake of friendly debate, where is the proof that the 33 copy cylinders of 144 treasures ever really existed, beyond myth?

DUNNO... the book GOD AS MOTHER may have more info; don't have it. http://godasmother.org/view_intro2.html

 

[bigscoop]

I can only say it has something to do with masonic teachings. The 33 cylinders is why you have the 33rd degree order. The 144 is for the 144,000 pure in heart of the saved during the first resurrection.

I understand this. But this is just a "philosophy", just a means of teaching a certain set of beliefs. Thousands of books have been written in an attempt to spread one's personal ideas and beliefs, their own philosophies. This is especially true when we look at religion, or any subject that touches on religion. The masonic order is no different in regards to the spreading of a philosophy and the methods employed to do so. However, in no way does this mean that the philosophy within the method is real.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I understand this. But this is just a "philosophy", just a means of teaching a certain set of beliefs. Thousands of books have been written in an attempt to spread one's personal ideas and beliefs, their own philosophies. This is especially true when we look at religion, or any subject that touches on religion. The masonic order is no different in regards to the spreading of a philosophy and the methods employed to do so. However, in no way does this mean that the philosophy within the method is real.

As 32nd Degree Scottish Rite... I CAN tell you, it has NOTHING to do with Sir Francis Bacon... in fact 32nd/33rd is PURELY American established by 1803. FreeMasonry is NOT a religion. ALL Masonic degrees are based on the OLD TESTAMENT. The 33rd is HONORARY. Info on the 33 copper "thingies" is available on a METAL DETECTING web-site!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

As 32nd Degree Scottish Rite... I CAN tell you, it has NOTHING to do with Sir Francis Bacon... in fact 32nd/33rd is PURELY American established by 1803. FreeMasonry is NOT a religion. ALL Masonic degrees are based on the OLD TESTAMENT. The 33rd is HONORARY. Info on the 33 copper "thingies" is available on a METAL DETECTING web-site!

http://www.metal-detecting-ghost-towns-of-the-east.com/thefreemasons.html
OR... "google" The Freemasons, Sir Francis Bacon, and Virginia

 

[Justintime]

There are many mysteries, Legends,ect, that elude us, that is what makes them interesting. I don't know everything, about who did what why they did it. I will say, I do have the key, and based on what is being implied, It is ,more than what was thought. The treasure is far from,Natural. So what kind of Legacydid they unexpectedly received. Having seen the key, the marker rocks, and the letters,ect. The ones who did it was under the impression, it had to be hid, and has masonic and religious implications. So only time will tell. I'm,not an expert, but I,seen what was being shown. Justsayn,,,,Justintime..Lol..

 

[ECS]

...Americans had active interest in the west even before 1807, even before the Louisiana Purchase...

...and after,which brings us to the WILKINSON-BURR CONSPIRACY and the Oct 9,1809 assassination of Merriweather Lewis at Grinders Stand,Tn by James Neelly.
It seems Lewis had knowledge of the Bruton vault that had led him to a much larger treasure vault and a lost Indo-Euro civilzation in the west,and Lewis had to be silenced.

 

[Justintime]

...and after,which brings us to the WILKINSON-BURR CONSPIRACY and the Oct 9,1809 assassination of Merriweather Lewis at Grinders Stand,Tn by James Neelly.
It seems Lewis had knowledge of the Bruton vault that had led him to a much larger treasure vault and a lost Indo-Euro civilzation in the west,and Lewis had to be silenced.

I alway felt like, there was than surveying going on. Why not buy all of it. Why is the purchase line not straight, Big notch in the line north of Santa Fe, donno justwandering

 

[Justintime]

You are so right. The 144 treasures of the Knight's Templar were mostly hidden and canceled in the United States. The Knight's Templar had been bringing these treasures from around the world and hiding them in the United States since 1362. TJ sent Lewis & Clark towards some of these treasures in the NW while later he sent the Pike Expedition to the SW there were other expeditions also. TJ spend all of his fortune gathering these treasures and bringing them to VA and have vaults excavated for these treasures.

I bet there was alot of pleasures,and wanderings. Lol..

 

[bigscoop]

As 32nd Degree Scottish Rite... I CAN tell you, it has NOTHING to do with Sir Francis Bacon... in fact 32nd/33rd is PURELY American established by 1803. FreeMasonry is NOT a religion. ALL Masonic degrees are based on the OLD TESTAMENT. The 33rd is HONORARY. Info on the 33 copper "thingies" is available on a METAL DETECTING web-site!

"Freemasonry is not a religion"........"All masonic degrees are based on the old testament." So, old testament isn't religious? Anyway, it's matters not, the point being that both Bacon and the Masonic order are all about, "Philosophies"......they support and promote, "ideologies".

 

[bigscoop]

You are so right. The 144 treasures of the Knight's Templar were mostly hidden and canceled in the United States. The Knight's Templar had been bringing these treasures from around the world and hiding them in the United States since 1362. TJ sent Lewis & Clark towards some of these treasures in the NW while later he sent the Pike Expedition to the SW there were other expeditions also. TJ spend all of his fortune gathering these treasures and bringing them to VA and have vaults excavated for these treasures.

Myth, nothing more. Not a single shred of evidence to any of it. This is why legends continue to survive, because men need to believe in them. Nearly every day of TJ's adult life can be accounted for, much of his activities included. This small task you speak of must be something he orchestrated in his free time. 144 treasures from around the country/world, located and collected and then all of them secretly acquired and secretly brought back to some deep dark cavern in VA, and all of this in his spare time, all the various duties assigned to an untold number of men over many years, without a single trace or hint. Just saying...........

 

[ECS]

Myth, nothing more. Not a single shred of evidence to any of it... Just saying...........

Then ,what was the purpose of James Neelly's coverup letter to Thomas Jefferson concerning Merriweather Lewis's death and Jefferson's reaction? Just saying...

 

[Justintime]

The guys involved were good. Smarter than a smart man. How does someone convince others to surrender their shares. If masonry is non religious, can a, atheist be one. Or a Catholic.

 

[bigscoop]

Tj had nothing to do with bringing these treasure over to this country that had been going on for four hundred years before Tj. I know this is hard to believe but I know it happened. Why is the International Peace Complex build near the United States and Canadian borders? Why were stones found near there dated to 1362. These stones referred to Jacob's Ladder need I say more/

And these stones are where, now? Certainly something so important would have been tested, and if proven to be the real thing, saved. I would love to see them, read the results of the testing that was done on them. Where can I find them at?

 

[bigscoop]

You can find a lot on youtube by Googling Cort Lindhal------Axis Mundi. International Peace Gardens or ley lines and Knight's Templar. These will keep you busy for weeks. I could hardly stop watching or listening. They are really enlightening.

Kensington Runestones

I know about the Kensington Stones. I just didn't realize that they had actually connected them to the whole 144 treasure thing. Last I knew, they were still uncertain as to their origin and they were still a mystery, beyond speculation, of course.

 

[Justintime]

Men prefer what they believe, Francis Bacon. Lot of good quotes. Lol..Justintime

 

[ECS]

I know about the Kensington Stones. I just didn't realize that they had actually connected them to the whole 144 treasure thing. Last I knew, they were still uncertain as to their origin and they were still a mystery, beyond speculation, of course.

For a look at the stone and the history of its discovery:
Kensington Rune Stone - Case Closed