The Peralta Stone Maps, Real Maps to Lost Gold Mines or Cruel Hoax?

[sdcfia]

Walls covered in gold.
Now that would be quite the sight....wouldn't it !

 

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[markmar]

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Yes... SAN PEDRO .

 

[somehiker]

Bones attributed to St Peter found by chance in 1,000-year-old church in Rome

 

[sdcfia]

Bones attributed to St Peter found by chance in 1,000-year-old church in Rome

Reminds me of the Chinese fellow who "accidentally" fell down an abandoned mine shaft in the now ghost mining town of Cookes Peak NM back in the late 1800s. The victim's family back in China sent over an agent to retrieve the bones so that the guy could be returned to his homeland. The agent hired a local to repel down and put the remains in a bag. The local climbed back up and asked the Chinese man, "How many of those bones do you want me to gather?". The answer, "All of them, of course." The local said, "Then we're going to need more bags. There must be twenty bodies down there."

 

[markmar]

If reverse the Horse stone map , the cross in front of the horse has the same angle with the cross from the " new " Witch ( or Coyotero Apache priest ) map . The line that joins the waved line close to the cross in the Horse map , give to the map a similar aspect with the new Witch map at that specific point .
Also , the Horse map has inscribed the word " Pedro " . Coincidence ?
Could the Witch points to another cross in the mountains ?

 

[cactusjumper]

If reverse the Horse stone map , the cross in front of the horse has the same angle with the cross from the " new " Witch ( or Coyotero Apache priest ) map . The line that joins the waved line close to the cross in the Horse map , give to the map a similar aspect with the new Witch map at that specific point .
Also , the Horse map has inscribed the word " Pedro " . Coincidence ?
Could the Witch points another cross in the mountains ?

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Marius,

The cross, by a coincidence I'm sure, points due east to the Pit Mine. The distance is 10-miles. Years ago, my Uncle Chuck Ribaudo showed me the shadow on the south side of Weaver's Needle that matches the priest with the cross. There are many, many such coincidences in the Superstitions.

Good luck,

Joe Ribaudo

 

[markmar]

Marius,

The cross, by a coincidence I'm sure, points due east to the Pit Mine. The distance is 10-miles. Years ago, my Uncle Chuck Ribaudo showed me the shadow on the south side of Weaver's Needle that matches the priest with the cross. There are many, many such coincidences in the Superstitions.

Good luck,

Joe Ribaudo

Joe

My question about coincidence was for the similar aspect of the two maps at a specific point and for the word PEDRO which is written in both maps .
I believe in coincidences but not when are so close in aspect and meanings and allegedly belong to the same set of maps , made in stone or not .

 

[gollum]

Reminds me of the Chinese fellow who "accidentally" fell down an abandoned mine shaft in the now ghost mining town of Cookes Peak NM back in the late 1800s. The victim's family back in China sent over an agent to retrieve the bones so that the guy could be returned to his homeland. The agent hired a local to repel down and put the remains in a bag. The local climbed back up and asked the Chinese man, "How many of those bones do you want me to gather?". The answer, "All of them, of course." The local said, "Then we're going to need more bags. There must be twenty bodies down there."

Also like the 75 bodies that were found in an abandoned silver mine near Taxco, Mexico.

Mike

 

[nmth]

Reminds me of the Chinese fellow who "accidentally" fell down an abandoned mine shaft in the now ghost mining town of Cookes Peak NM back in the late 1800s. The victim's family back in China sent over an agent to retrieve the bones so that the guy could be returned to his homeland. The agent hired a local to repel down and put the remains in a bag. The local climbed back up and asked the Chinese man, "How many of those bones do you want me to gather?". The answer, "All of them, of course." The local said, "Then we're going to need more bags. There must be twenty bodies down there."

Black Range Tales, McKenna (Uncle Jimmy)
Hop Sing's Bones
Book is almost worth memorizing - but maybe I am trying to justify my personal investment.
Wild country, to this day...

 

[sdcfia]

Black Range Tales, McKenna (Uncle Jimmy)
Hop Sing's Bones
Book is almost worth memorizing - but maybe I am trying to justify my personal investment.
Wild country, to this day...

Forgot that's where I got the story - hope I got the details close enough, ha ha. Black Range Tales is an incredibly good book, highly recommended. I remember Jimmy describing Apache raids around Kingston, "There is no fear greater than Indian fear."

 

[nmth]

Forgot that's where I got the story - hope I got the details close enough, ha ha. Black Range Tales is an incredibly good book, highly recommended. I remember Jimmy describing Apache raids around Kingston, "There is no fear greater than Indian fear."

He gets even more descriptive when addressing Georgetown. Says men were even afraid to take a minute to shave.

But, the Silvertips were the worst. Anyone who wants those roaming our forests again has no idea what the implications would be. I have trod a lot of the places in the 'Tales, and meeting a Griz solo 5 miles on foot back into nowhere in that country would not be a joke.

For those not familiar with the book, it contains several versions of the Lost Adams tale (the gold placer one), also known as the Snivley Diggings, N Diggins, etc. from the perspective of a man who actually lived in those days and roamed the country. Another good true story book is No Life for a Lady by Agness Morely Cleaveland; she lived right up the the heart of the Adams country.

Sorry for the distraction from the Peralta Stones topic. I myself find them suspiciously well-made and a little too ornate. I may make the rendezvous for the first time this year, having little excuse since I am now in AZ as my main base. Maybe I can be educated as to their authenticity. Anyone considering them may want to look up historical Spanish writing styles. The style of the numbers on the stone maps seem too modern. The Spanish also seems corrupted.

Since it is a lost mine story, as opposed to a cache story, my strategy would be to seek out the geology and camp signs rather than walk ten paces from a map landmark. Of course, this could waste a lifetime unless starting in some generally-relevant area.

My favorites have always been the little sites, signs, and markers with no name that I have stumbled across over the years. The big stories get so jumbled. The little sites rest only on their observable features.

 

[Riverbum]

SDCFIA,

I have that book, great reading , like a snap shot of the History around Kingston, Lake Valley, Black Range area, even Glenwood Springs. Stories of the Mogollon also. The "book" I have is nothing more than a paperback cheaply put together but complete

 

[sailaway]

Here is some examples of Spanish rock carvings done by shipwrecked sailors on Provinciales in the Turks and Cacios Islands. Dates on the rock are from the 16th century through the 19th century.

There are hundreds of names carved in the very large rock that is the size of a two story house. The oldest known Spanish ship wreck in the Americas is 5 miles south of this location. (initials and 1543 inscribed on the Rock were documented by U.Fl. edu.)
https://www.tcmuseum.org/projects/molasses-reef-shipwreck/
https://turksandcaicosallinclusiveresorts.com/top-10-must-see-histortical-sites-turks-cai...

 

[markmar]

Also I find this new Priest map ( modified from Das Luca maps ) interested too .

 

[markmar]

Seems the Bill's new thread about RG' tv show was deleted .

 

[somehiker]

Seems the Bill's new thread about RG' tv show was deleted .

Are you surprised ?
Seems whoever is responsible for the total censorship of any news of THAT fiasco is very worried by recent developments, and are paying close attention to what facts are being shared by other interested parties. Best to stick to PM's and E-mail etc.

 

[markmar]

If THEY need help why don't ask it kindly ? I know some good doctors .

 

[Old]

Ask your moderator. I nor anyone I know had anything to do with it.

 

[markmar]

Ask your moderator. I nor anyone I know had anything to do with it.

I don't have any moderator yet in my life , like others have . I am a free human been .
Maybe you meant " the topic's moderator " .

 

[JohnWhite]

Seems the Bill's new thread about RG' tv show was deleted .

Things were getting pretty deep on that thread markmar...I had my waders on and the B.S. was too deep for my waders...And I know that I had nothing to do with the thread being deleted...

I know that my B.S. about if someone would come up with a few million dollars I'd take them to my little area...Shoot...azdave was even telling me on that thread that he'd shoot my ore for $20 and tell me if it was worth anything...lol

The nerve of some people...I was beginning to like that thread too...I guess that it just goes to show that there are still charlatans in the treasure hunting business...

As IF I need investors...Hell...You can't pay me enough to go through that much pain again in my behind as I went through the time I did get to my little hole in the wall...It was much worse than freaking hemorrhoids...I don't know how Don Jose loves his mule so darn much...Now IF I had a nice trail bike or maybe even a quad...I just might try to retrace the steps I took on the poor mule...The trail was pretty treacherous though...I doubt I'd be able to make it on a quad...

Ed T