The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

[EE THr]

Go back two pages in this thread , to the #1311 post . There is a picture with the horse and some explanations .

The only problem with your "match" is that there is nothing on the ground, in your image there, that even remotely resembles a horse or it's head.

How do you reconcile that?

 

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[markmar]

The only problem with your "match" is that there is nothing on the ground, in your image there, that even remotely resembles a horse or it's head.

How do you reconcile that?

The only problem with you , is how you don't have the skill to see the horse on the landmarks . If you try more and with some exercises , maybe some day you can to see how that even remotely resembles .
I bored to debate with suspicious hunters , who are stucked in an old and ineffectively theories .
One day you must to heard and somebody else , not only your voice . I don't care if you believe me . One thing is sure : you never find what the stone maps real are and how to interpret them .

 

[393stroker]

Here `s a recent video about the stone maps.

 

[EE THr]

The only problem with you , is how you don't have the skill to see the horse on the landmarks . If you try more and with some exercises , maybe some day you can to see how that even remotely resembles .
I bored to debate with suspicious hunters , who are stucked in an old and ineffectively theories .
One day you must to heard and somebody else , not only your voice . I don't care if you believe me . One thing is sure : you never find what the stone maps real are and how to interpret them .

You're right, I'm not "skilled" enough to see something which doesn't exist. Or are you saying that anyone who wants to see it must "believe"?

I think if you, yourself, actually "believed" your own story, you would simply post a better picture, and use some arrows or something to point out what marks you are allegedly referring to, like others have done.

The paradox here, is that you seem adamant about making public your "discoveries," yet you really aren't showing anything. That you try to substitute insults for data, removes even more credibility from your stories.

What do you imagine that you, or readers of this forum, stand to gain by making such strong claims, with such weak credibility? I mean, making claims without backing them up, at least somewhat, isn't even information sharing, because anything a person claims in that manner, results only in non-information. I can understand if a Treasure Hunter is reluctant to help others find his "spot," but you're not even helping yourself with this approach, either.

So what is your purpose for posting here?

 

[roadrunner]

Thanks for posting the video Chuck.
But again,found the gold,followed the maps.
No pics of the Gold,or the quartz,or the wash, or anything,but he's going to have another book out that Does Not tell where it is.
Just rehashing old stories.
Lots of gold in those books though.
And of course,no one will pick up a specimen for some reason.
Or break one off.
Are you not allowed to pick up samples to have tested or something.

Why is every one so scared.
Tell me where this spot is.
I will check it out,and get a sample.

 

[markmar]

You're right, I'm not "skilled" enough to see something which doesn't exist. Or are you saying that anyone who wants to see it must "believe"?

I think if you, yourself, actually "believed" your own story, you would simply post a better picture, and use some arrows or something to point out what marks you are allegedly referring to, like others have done.

The paradox here, is that you seem adamant about making public your "discoveries," yet you really aren't showing anything. That you try to substitute insults for data, removes even more credibility from your stories.

What do imagine that you, or readers of this forum, stand to gain by making such strong claims, with such weak credibility? I mean, making claims without backing them up, at least somewhat, isn't even information sharing, because anything a person claims in that manner, results only in non-information. I can understand if a Treasure Hunter is reluctant to help others find his "spot," but you're not even helping yourself with this approach, either.

So what is your purpose for posting here?

EE THr

Look at this picture and compare it with the land shapes . I can't do something better for you . Try to find the three dots above the right ear, and after , match the three Xs of the trail map with the dots ( like I showed in previous post ) . But to find the real trail must to match and the other symbols in the map with the ground shapes . When you will match the symbols with the ground shapes , you will see how the dots and the Xs don't match !00% . This is because the dots show the exact location of the mines and the Xs show the location with approximation ( is the rule of the X ) . If you want to stop when you find the location of the dots ( because you can't continue the work ) , it's Ok , it's worth , but you will don't find the Someo Montana gold cache .

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

invalid attachment.
typical.

 

[goldbugpr]

Roadrunner, this is all that remains of the quartz vein at the end of the trail on the Stone Maps.
It is located just below this heart.
The complete story will be out in the book "Straight to the Heart, Follow the Map, find the Gold" due out this fall.

 

[goldbugpr]

Markmar, I will save you a lot of wasted time by showing the the Cobollo De Sante Fe depicted on the stone maps. They could not fly in 1847. Just look up at a mountain from a specific spot.

Go to Kings Ranch Rd. and view the end of the mountain from any where around Dinosaur Mtn and you will see the horse as the mapmaker saw it.

 

[markmar]

Markmar, I will save you a lot of wasted time by showing the the Cobollo De Sante Fe depicted on the stone maps. They could not fly in 1847. Just look up at a mountain from a specific spot.View attachment 862167

Go to Kings Ranch Rd. and view the end of the mountain from any where around Dinosaur Mtn and you will see the horse as the mapmaker saw it.

goldbugpr

This horse on the mountain , just warning how the horse of the horse stone MAP lies there . How you can recognize the five dots of the horse stone map , in a 3D map ?

 

[roadrunner]

Roadrunner, this is all that remains of the quartz vein at the end of the trail on the Stone Maps. View attachment 862150
It is located just below this heart.View attachment 862159
The complete story will be out in the book "Straight to the Heart, Follow the Map, find the Gold" due out this fall.

Thanks.At least you are someone was there,found something and either took a sample,or found some thing and are willing to show it.
Where is this spot located? I mean,where does your end end up at.

 

[sgtfda]

It will be in the book?

 

[roadrunner]

It will be in the book?

Oh ya,the books.
I keep forgetting about the books.
I need to write me a book.

Seeing as how I cant seem to see all these shapes in all the photos posted.

 

[goldbugpr]

The easiest way to explain the 5 dots is to say that the most important thing you could show on a map of the desert is where is the water. Stone maps tell you to pasture north of the river. It then shows you that river with the location of the 5 water holes.
The dark green line of vegetation just below the first water hole is Queen Creek. Four of the five water holes still exist today, one was consumed by Hwy 60.

 

[goldbugpr]

“[FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif]I have been told by those who frequently travel along this part of the river, that you may not be fortunate enough once in twenty years to find more than a little bunch-grass, and that only by driving [/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif]your[/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif] animals to the plains, four or five miles back from the river. By constant search, we discovered sufficient for our purposes”… “Numerous springs lie concealed among the tule, with here and there a willow or a cotton-wood to mark their localities”.[/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif]Lieutenant Michler[/FONT]’[FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif]s Report. [/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic, sans-serif]Report on the United States and Mexican boundary survey: made under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, by William H. Emory, Major First Cavalry and United States Commissioner, 1857.[/FONT]​

This is a saguaro skeleton alongside a dead host Ironwood. This is about halfway up the back side of the water hole. It made me think that the water hole was old.

 

[sgtfda]

Makes sense.

 

[markmar]

goldbugpr

You say how the horse stone tablet , is a map which show where you can graze and watered your horse if you are traveling from Santa Fe ?
And how you can to combine a 3D map ( the horse ) with a 2D map ( the dots ) ?
Maybe is something magical .
Be careful what you write , and try to have a logic .

 

[sgtfda]

“I have been told by those who frequently travel along this part of the river, that you may not be fortunate enough once in twenty years to find more than a little bunch-grass, and that only by driving your animals to the plains, four or five miles back from the river. By constant search, we discovered sufficient for our purposes”... “Numerous springs lie concealed among the tule, with here and there a willow or a cotton-wood to mark their localities”. Lieutenant Michler’s Report. Report on the United States and Mexican boundary survey: made under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, by William H. Emory, Major First Cavalry and United States Commissioner, 1857.
<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=862593"/>This is a saguaro skeleton alongside a dead host Ironwood. This is about halfway up the back side of the water hole. It made me think that the water hole was old.

What is your opinion of a mission near the Burns Ranch?

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

he gave it already sarge...told me to save my gas money...

does this mean I can't go back to superior and take a few photographs?

 

[goldbugpr]

sgtfda, I have been to that site a few times. I metal detected and only found recent trash. The question I raised with Rick Gwynne who took me there: Isn't this an odd spot for any thing but maybe a small stone house, since there was no population base to support much of any thing. Besides the foundation stones there did not appear to be much rubble associated with a ruin. There is also a reported treasure cave out in that area that shows signs of recent activity.