Season "3" of Curse of Oak Island

[Robot]

"I Can See Clearly Now The Fog Has Gone"

This is driving me nuts!!

10-X
Why can't they just filter the water that is in the hole?

Like when the discover a wreck in the ocean and they vacuum the silt to uncover the ship.

That way the water stays in 10-X,no collapse, and they can dive in clear water.

For the life of me I do not know why the Lagina brothers do not lower down a "Binder' to grab and fish out that annoying "Drill Bit"


Next... Lower down a 360 degree camera and sit it on the bottom.
Something like this "Puppy"


and maybe 10 - 20 of these `Babies` to light that cavern up!



Marty has a vinyard and knows about "Fining".. Dump down 10 gallons of Bentonite

Bentonite has the property of adsorbing relatively large amounts of protein molecules from aqueous solutions. Consequently, bentonite is uniquely useful in the process of winemaking, where it is used to remove excessive amounts of protein from white wines. Were it not for this use of bentonite, many or most white wines would precipitate undesirable flocculent clouds or hazes upon exposure to warm temperatures, as these proteins denature. It also has the incidental use of inducing more rapid clarification of both red and white wines.

After 1 week, when it is nice and clear... Turn on the Camera!

 

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[gazzahk]

I'm not sure how many of you knew that two episodes ago, they started a "follow up" they call Drilling Deep. It's the format of "The Dirt" for Gold Rush. Anyway, the TV personality asked straight out if they were going to get a diver to the bottom of 10x and Rick stated that they will have a diver at the bottom this season. Since it's in the can at this point you have to believe there will be another attempt.

I suppose then this will be in their season finale.... 13 episodes just to get to bottom of 10x.

So far this season they have.

1) Found the old shaft that was meant to lead to the money pit and buried it again
2) Got Nolan to sign up to there search
3) sent a camera down 10x that found nothing of interest
4) found a cavity in a place Nolan told them to dig and then ignored it
5) broke some rocks out of the concrete and then never asked Nolan the significance of what he thought those rocks showed.
6) Obtained some heavy digging equipment and dug three holes
7) Found a piece of metal that looks modern from a machine
8) Found a triangle rock and then ignored it

I really hope in the last three episodes they actually do some exploring of the actual pit and see if that was chapels vault they found. BUT I wont be holding my breath....

 

[ArkhamB]

Thanks Roadhouse and Robot...wow....great posts!

Wish I could add something to that, but I can't.

 

[adameb]

In response to a couple posts..

Re: the location of the drill rod. A couple episodes ago they dropped that metal detector probe down and determined the rod was like 25 feet past the smaller opening

Re: the clarity of the water in 10x. Don't forget that in addition to the rust, they also dumped a bunch of dye down there looking to find the joins to the ocean

 

[Roadhse2]

What bothers me most is when the try to qualify anything found with an unknown...

In example...The triangle rock underwater lines up perfectly with the triangle of rocks on land and both perfectly in line with the money pit...

The triangle rocks on land have been gone for a long time and no one knows what the exact position they were oriented in or even where at on the island exactly....

The exact position of the money pit has been lost due to extensive digging at different times....

They have even said this on a few occasions...

So when they make those kind of statements it just shows they think the viewers of the show are stupid and wont notice...

That irks me....

 

[gazzahk]

What bothers me most....

That irks me....

With me it is the lack of following things up. I am still waiting for the follow up on the cavity in the slate where Nolan told them to dig. Then there is the claim re the Aztecs where the looney told them to dig and they said they would have to solve the problem with Nolan. They did and never dug the place they were told.. They have never followed up on the rocks they got from the concrete... When Nolan told them he discovered a man made wall to the swamp and Rick ran out with his back hoe and dug a heap of holes looking for it. Why did he not take Nolan and get him to show him where he found it etc...

BUT most of all it is their failure to actually try to find the pit and investigate what is at the bottom of it is what irks me .....

 

[Mike Mercury]

Listening to what Dan said about the drill stem, versus the illustration they keep showing with it in the middle of the shaft...

Dan said the stem is caught on the ledge of the hole at the bottom of the shaft...to me meaning the point is at the bottom of the vault with the other end leaning into the shaft....so there must be room to get around it

that's not the way I understood Dans recollection. I thoght he was saying the bottom of the bit is resting on a lip at the very bottom edge of the 27" pipe.

 

[Roadhse2]

You may be right Mike, i may be mistaken...

But i would have to watch the show again to find out...and i am not going to do that..lol To painful

So that still leaves us with how anyone would get around the drill stem if it is stuck in the hole? All of those guys are pretty broad shouldered, including both Blankenships, to fit in a 27" hole...much less to squeeze past the stem..

 

[bjw]

One question. Out of all the shows on all the networks has there ever been a one show where the people involved found anything of importance?
Bruce

 

[cckrobinson]

One question. Out of all the shows on all the networks has there ever been a one show where the people involved found anything of importance?
Bruce

On the show "Ice Cold Gold" while prospecting they found a large ruby deposit in Greenland. The government apparently took it away from them the next season. The problem with these shows is that if something substantial was ever found we would hear about it long before the show aired.

 

[bobinsd]

You may be right Mike, i may be mistaken...

But i would have to watch the show again to find out...and i am not going to do that..lol To painful

So that still leaves us with how anyone would get around the drill stem if it is stuck in the hole? All of those guys are pretty broad shouldered, including both Blankenships, to fit in a 27" hole...much less to squeeze past the stem..

There are a couple of people on Game of Thrones that would fit.

Seriously, RHouse, you mentioned the rising and falling of the water level with the tide. Is that correct? I don't recall that that fact has been established.
If so, it negates the possibility that the intent was to build a well hoping to get "filtered" water. And if so, why go so deep? How far below the ocean level

does 10X go? Do you think that there are one or more inlets underground, manmade or not?

 

[Roadhse2]

10x was started in 1970...not as a well to get filtered water...by Triton Oak Island Hunters group

Here are a few interesting tidbits about naturally occuring caverns on the island and around it..

I don't have time right how to look up anything else..but will later....

In 1975 a sewage disposal system was being put in on the mainland, roughly 3000ft North of Oak Island, workmen excavating with heavy machinery broke through a layer of rocks to discover a 52ft deep cavern (crocker, 1993)
In 1969 the Triton Oak Island Hunters Group while drilling in 1969 discovered and broke into such a cavern at 165ft. Owners figure it was man made, geologists say its natural. Particularly with the proof of the neat layers missing.
In 1949 over on the shores of Mahone Bay, 5 miles south of Oak Island. Yet another money pit was found when workers were digging a well. The site was chosen for the softer unpacked earth. It's said "At 2ft down a layer of fieldstone was struck, then logs of spruce and oak were unearthed at semi regular intervals, some charred".
A geologist writing on Oak Islands unique geological make up, stated that naturally formed caverns in the islands bedrock, are what is causing the flooding, a natural flow of water through a holey island, basically.

 

[gazzahk]

One question. Out of all the shows on all the networks has there ever been a one show where the people involved found anything of importance?
Bruce

The billion dollar wreck hunt they recovered a fortune..

 

[gazzahk]

Do you think that there are one or more inlets underground, manmade or not?

I doubt it. The remote camera they sent down did not find any tunnels into it. Dan and his mate dived it in the past any did not report exploring any tunnels into it. Unless the entrance to the tunnels are blocked by a door or something there is near zero chance that the cavity is man made.

Even if they do find a body or other stuff I would bet money it has entered into the cavity after 10x has been dug. Given the fame of oak island I would be very surprised if some other divers have not come to oak island and dived 10x in the past also.

 

[Dave Rishar]

Seriously, RHouse, you mentioned the rising and falling of the water level with the tide. Is that correct? I don't recall that that fact has been established.

It's been claimed that this fact was established in the Woods Hole report, as well as having been reported by various outfits over the decades. I'd actually be a bit surprised if this wasn't happening at Oak Island.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_table#Tidal_fluctuations

It's a natural phenomenon that should be occurring at a place like Oak Island.

 

[lokiblossom]

We know that some of them lied under interrogation. Why did they lie? I think that the answer is obvious. Why does anyone lie while being tortured?

If you're wondering what kind of pressure those guys were exerting on at least some of the people being questioned...well, look at de Molay again. He confessed and and then changed his story a couple of times, but he kept the faith while being burned alive. I don't know exactly what they were doing to their prisoners, but it was apparently worse than being burned alive. Under those circumstances, I think that I'd tell those guys everything I knew, and then I'd start making stuff up if I didn't know enough. That's just me, though. I'm delicate.

Lets look at the actual testimony of Jean de Chalons, preceptor of the Templar commandery in Namur during the investigation into Templar activities in Poitou. Now in the archives of the Vatican, from my book pg 81; Chalons testified in 1308 that;

"The leaders of the Order expecting the trouble, have fled, and he himself met the brother Gerard de Villier [Master of France], who had 50 horses with him [this de Chalons testified he had seen himself], and heard people talking that he [Gerard] had put to sea with 18 galleys and the brother Hughes de Pairaud".

You claim de Chalons had lied and had only heard the story second hand, which is only partly true.
So, did he lie? We know the ships were there which I can prove. We know the ships disappeared. We know Gerard de Villiers disappeared after the spring of 1307, before the arrests of the Order never to be seen again and became the most wanted man in France after the arrests. And we also know the Templar gold (160,000 florins of the stuff) and silver that had arrived in France from Cyprus on those ships also disappeared.

He was said to have confirmed the total corruption of the Order and some of the blasphemous rites. These accusations are difficult to understand. He was the preceptor of a Templar commandery. Which story was the lie, The one told about him by the inquisitors or his own testimony?

I can show many cases in which the inquisitors lied, I don't think there is any evidence that de Chalons had, either previously or in this instance. If you do have evidence that he had, please produce it so I can rewrite this chapter of my book.

Cheers, Loki

 

[Dave Rishar]

So you're citing something you wrote as evidence to support what you're writing? I hope that I'm misunderstanding you here.

 

[lokiblossom]

So you're citing something you wrote as evidence to support what you're writing? I hope that I'm misunderstanding you here.

You must have missed the quote marks, and the "in the archives of the Vatican" eh!

Cheers, Loki

 

[Jason in Enid]

You must have missed the quote marks, and the "in the archives of the Vatican" eh!

Cheers, Loki

Oh sure, quote a source that is impossible to investigate. You might as well say the aliens from alfa-centauri stated it.

 

[lokiblossom]

Lets look at the actual testimony of Jean de Chalons, preceptor of the Templar commandery in Namur during the investigation into Templar activities in Poitou. Now in the archives of the Vatican, from my book pg 81; Chalons testified in 1308 that;

"The leaders of the Order expecting the trouble, have fled, and he himself met the brother Gerard de Villier [Master of France], who had 50 horses with him [this de Chalons testified he had seen himself], and heard people talking that he [Gerard] had put to sea with 18 galleys and the brother Hughes de Pairaud".

You claim de Chalons had lied and had only heard the story second hand, which is only partly true.
So, did he lie? We know the ships were there which I can prove. We know the ships disappeared. We know Gerard de Villiers disappeared after the spring of 1307, before the arrests of the Order never to be seen again and became the most wanted man in France after the arrests. And we also know the Templar gold (160,000 florins of the stuff) and silver that had arrived in France from Cyprus on those ships also disappeared.

He was said to have confirmed the total corruption of the Order and some of the blasphemous rites. These accusations are difficult to understand. He was the preceptor of a Templar commandery. Which story was the lie, The one told about him by the inquisitors or his own testimony?

I can show many cases in which the inquisitors lied, I don't think there is any evidence that de Chalons had, either previously or in this instance. If you do have evidence that he had, please produce it so I can rewrite this chapter of my book.

Cheers, Loki

The testimony I included above from Jean de Chalons is contained in the Vatican Archives under; register Aven, N.48, Benedicti XII, tome L, folios 448-451,
as recorded by official Catholic Church Historian, Heinrich Finke!