NostraDanis
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J. Hutton is to history what Gilligan was to sailing. They both wear a funny outfit, but that's about it.
Season "3" of Curse of Oak Island
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J. Hutton is to history what Gilligan was to sailing. They both wear a funny outfit, but that's about it.
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The sword is just a distraction. As they pointed out they do not know where it was found, who actually found it and even if it was the real deal how it got there. On the whole I think the whole team dismissed it as of little relevance to there quest.
I think they must abandon the idea of diving 10x is just seems to risky. I think they should revisit draining the hole. So what if it does collapse they are no worse off. Still I cannot see those steel walls just collapsing simply because they remove the water. They should drain it to the small hole and then they can remove the drill bit and have a much better chance of getting down there. The other alternative is more robot vehicles I guess.
Not much uncovered on that episode so only a couple left for this season (13 episodes) so I imagine if they do discover anything significant they will show it in the last episode.
I really wish they would finish stuff though. They have not mentioned the chamber they found in the slate again when at the time they behaved like it was something significant.
The only way they are going to answer the mystery is finding and digging the pit....
I think they must abandon the idea of diving 10x is just seems to risky. I think they should revisit draining the hole. So what if it does collapse they are no worse off. Still I cannot see those steel walls just collapsing simply because they remove the water. They should drain it to the small hole and then they can remove the drill bit and have a much better chance of getting down there. The other alternative is more robot vehicles I guess.
Not much uncovered on that episode so only a couple left for this season (13 episodes) so I imagine if they do discover anything significant they will show it in the last episode.
I really wish they would finish stuff though. They have not mentioned the chamber they found in the slate again when at the time they behaved like it was something significant.
The only way they are going to answer the mystery is finding and digging the pit....
Hydrolic action in the soil would/could collapse the old rusty iron liner if the pressure of the water inside was removed... Same way an inground pool can crack if left empty...
But if they were really serious about all of this, they could relign the hole with new steel, pump it down to the 27 inch hole and dig or drill it out to a larger size...$150k or so? Small amount if you have millions already invested as Marty keeps saying...
What is the point though? 10x is not the money pit..so why bother with it at all...nothing was found there in the reported 10+ trips already made into the chamber..no tunnels, no dead guy, no chest...
Main reason they are doing anything there is because they have nothing else to show for TV to add the drama needed...and even with that the storyline is running thin, they will have to do something else major to keep the show going much longer...
The money pit area had already been dug down to 230 feet by Renstall....nothing found, so i don't see there being any big push to do that again...
But if they were really serious about all of this, they could relign the hole with new steel, pump it down to the 27 inch hole and dig or drill it out to a larger size...$150k or so? Small amount if you have millions already invested as Marty keeps saying...
What is the point though? 10x is not the money pit..so why bother with it at all...nothing was found there in the reported 10+ trips already made into the chamber..no tunnels, no dead guy, no chest...
Main reason they are doing anything there is because they have nothing else to show for TV to add the drama needed...and even with that the storyline is running thin, they will have to do something else major to keep the show going much longer...
The money pit area had already been dug down to 230 feet by Renstall....nothing found, so i don't see there being any big push to do that again...
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One of last nights highlights for me was when the divers are in the hole....and the young guy says "We're almost out of rope!" or something to that effect...and then the camera pans down to a small coil of rope left and then back to him feeding it slowly over the barrier edge...
Hahahah..Oh the drama!...
Nothing like bringing a 100 foot of rope for a 200 foot dive...LOL
These guys would be the same ones to bring a knife to a gun fight...
Hahahah..Oh the drama!...
Nothing like bringing a 100 foot of rope for a 200 foot dive...LOL
These guys would be the same ones to bring a knife to a gun fight...
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No he only dug 134 feet
source: Wikipedia
source: Oak Island Money Pit Treasure - Canada History and Mysteries
So they need to dig to these depths to solve the mystery
Even if the diver gets to the bottom. He can't see anything. Would be going by feel alone which in turn would stir up more silt. I hope he is wearing video though in the chance it actually records something of interest. Their best bet was the submersible for getting video without stirring up the silt in order to see anything..
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One question I thought of after watching last night's show that I haven't seen addressed is if Dan Blankenship has personally reached the bottom of 10x why wasn't he able to prove or disprove what he thought he captured on his film?
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Why would you not take him seriously? He's got a Monkey Division beret, sophisticated treasure hunting equipment and everything!
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Mr bigshot
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Was this due to water clarity, absence of items to be found, nobody really knows? I had heard Dan had been into the cavity at the bottom of 10x ,but if he was never able to find anything himself, I wonder why he is convinced there are things to be found. The sonar footage is compelling, but I would think his personal experience should say something.
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Hmmm .. Did they say the money pit was discovered as a "round depression" with a pulley hanging above it? Sounds like a well to me. A failed attempt at desalination.
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Or did the Templar forget to grab the pulley?
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How can they get to the bottom? There has been a Drill pipe stuck there for 40 years? How will they get a human around it safely? They got a rover and what not to the bottom. When will they give up and realize that after 40 years there is nothing down there?
Listening to what Dan said about the drill stem, versus the illustration they keep showing with it in the middle of the shaft...
Dan said the stem is caught on the ledge of the hole at the bottom of the shaft...to me meaning the point is at the bottom of the vault with the other end leaning into the shaft....so there must be room to get around it
The whole thing is just drama for the show..as it has already been determined there is nothing in that vault and that it is just a natural void in the rock layer....which geologists have already determined this type of layering will have. There is plenty of info out there if you look for it on what has been studied by different sciences and explorations...including the fact that no tunnel system exists from the so called drain box area...it has already been coffer dammed and drained, dug up...no tunnels
10x is the only thing on the island that they can film to 'show' something going on...so they use it over and over, even knowing it has nothing there
Just like a project I was doing that the local news wanted to film...not until there were "Hammers swinging" would they do the interview...otherwise there would be nothing to show but an empty field where the project was going in...pretty boring stuff for TV.
Dan said the stem is caught on the ledge of the hole at the bottom of the shaft...to me meaning the point is at the bottom of the vault with the other end leaning into the shaft....so there must be room to get around it
The whole thing is just drama for the show..as it has already been determined there is nothing in that vault and that it is just a natural void in the rock layer....which geologists have already determined this type of layering will have. There is plenty of info out there if you look for it on what has been studied by different sciences and explorations...including the fact that no tunnel system exists from the so called drain box area...it has already been coffer dammed and drained, dug up...no tunnels
10x is the only thing on the island that they can film to 'show' something going on...so they use it over and over, even knowing it has nothing there
Just like a project I was doing that the local news wanted to film...not until there were "Hammers swinging" would they do the interview...otherwise there would be nothing to show but an empty field where the project was going in...pretty boring stuff for TV.
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Yep.. It does make you wonder if they ever talked to Dan about his dives etc. ie this drill bit must of fell before Dan did his dives so if it has not moved then it must be possible to get past it. It certainly has not moved higher up the shaft since Dan dived it.
Also I assume Dan and his mate just did the dive with standard scuba equipment of that time. Still I am a diver (recreational) and it appears to be a pretty dangerous dive. I would not want to get stuck in that underwater cavity.
This is driving me nuts!!
10-X
Why can't they just filter the water that is in the hole?
Like when the discover a wreck in the ocean and they vacuum the silt to uncover the ship.
That way the water stays in 10-X,no collapse, and they can dive in clear water.
10-X
Why can't they just filter the water that is in the hole?
Like when the discover a wreck in the ocean and they vacuum the silt to uncover the ship.
That way the water stays in 10-X,no collapse, and they can dive in clear water.
If you notice of the color of the water...it is not only silt, but rust from the pipes themselves...
I have just rehabbed a water well on our farm that hadnt been in use for many years and it was the same color. plus metallic tasting...after two months of filtering to 20 microns, and many filter changes, the incoming water has finally cleared...the well casing pipe has cleared itself of loose rust particles and the years of sediments. There is new pvc pipe from the new pump to the house, so all rust came from the casings/sediment..
This is a well 180 foot deep with a 6 inch pipe...imagine how many years it would take to filter the amount of water in 10x before the pipes quit sloughing off rust particles...much less practical than just putting in a new liner and pumping...
Also...powdered bentonite clay is often used to repair leaking ponds, if placed in the 10x bore at the beginning of low tide, when water levels are sinking in the shaft, it would be drawn into water entry/exit points and seal them..just as it does in a pond
So there are many other schemes that could be used to get to the bottom of the hole...but wont be as it has already been explored and shown as nothing there of interest...
There is also better dive equipment that could be used, no tanks, air from above, that would extend dive periods dramatically...and be less cumbersome. Why are they not used? My theory is because they are not diving to the bottom of the hole at all...just down far enough to be unseen from above and provide the drama the show thrives on...Smoke and mirrors for the TV show.
I have just rehabbed a water well on our farm that hadnt been in use for many years and it was the same color. plus metallic tasting...after two months of filtering to 20 microns, and many filter changes, the incoming water has finally cleared...the well casing pipe has cleared itself of loose rust particles and the years of sediments. There is new pvc pipe from the new pump to the house, so all rust came from the casings/sediment..
This is a well 180 foot deep with a 6 inch pipe...imagine how many years it would take to filter the amount of water in 10x before the pipes quit sloughing off rust particles...much less practical than just putting in a new liner and pumping...
Also...powdered bentonite clay is often used to repair leaking ponds, if placed in the 10x bore at the beginning of low tide, when water levels are sinking in the shaft, it would be drawn into water entry/exit points and seal them..just as it does in a pond
So there are many other schemes that could be used to get to the bottom of the hole...but wont be as it has already been explored and shown as nothing there of interest...
There is also better dive equipment that could be used, no tanks, air from above, that would extend dive periods dramatically...and be less cumbersome. Why are they not used? My theory is because they are not diving to the bottom of the hole at all...just down far enough to be unseen from above and provide the drama the show thrives on...Smoke and mirrors for the TV show.
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NO proof , no facts,np
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I'm not sure how many of you knew that two episodes ago, they started a "follow up" they call Drilling Deep. It's the format of "The Dirt" for Gold Rush. Anyway, the TV personality asked straight out if they were going to get a diver to the bottom of 10x and Rick stated that they will have a diver at the bottom this season. Since it's in the can at this point you have to believe there will be another attempt.
