Season "3" of Curse of Oak Island

I find myself yelling at the TV constantly while watching this show and episode 26 was no exception. I didn't expect them to uncover anything exciting but come on.

1. Who cares about gillyweed or eel grass of what the hell ever they were looking for. They already carbon dated the coconut fiber so what value does it add by dating the eel grass?
2. Let's spend half the episode analyzing a replica sword that wasn't found on Oak Island. WTF?
3. Let's go 280 feet north of the money pit and dig some random holes where a previous treasure hunter already looked. They laid out a grid but they only drilled an 1/8th of the holes necessary to fully eliminate the site. I figured that after they hit wood they would give up, but they surprised me and actually dug a 2nd hole. If they thought the wood was part of a vault then they would have drilled 4 holes around the original hole to try to find the center.
4. They tell us that they finally found a diver that's skinny enough to fit through a 27" pipe.

The best part of the show is the last 30 seconds when they preview the next episode. The whole series is a lot like a train wreck. It's horrible but you can't look away.
 

whitjake said:
Nothing like a Lab telling you that you have JUNK
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it was a Cool find though. Late 1800's. I'd take it.

I'll bet it was found no where near the Island though.
I think "off the Shore" of oak island is the Biggest exaggeration ever
 

I don't understand why the divers are entering the 27" hole feet first, when they know there is a drill bit that needs to be moved. ??
 

They aren't really looking for a treasure. They are creating a fake TV drama about looking for treasure, and have been for 3 years so far. That is why they have done so much traveling to chase these crack-pot theories, and then they run around the island dig random holes but they never follow through on anything. I suspect the show bought that sword (proven a fake from Ebay long before this show) just to have another episode of having SOMETHING to chase.
 

I'm sure a lot of it is for the show but the "investors" have millions invested supposedly so I'd think there is some true hunting going on in between all the TV crap... I was hoping the after show, talk show would help explain some of that but it doesn't..
I too didn't understand why they didn't drill more holes last night while the equipment was there. Heck they need to just buy one of those to keep on the island.. what's another couple hundred grand at this point
 

n2mini said:
I'm sure a lot of it is for the show but the "investors" have millions invested supposedly so I'd think there is some true hunting going on in between all the TV crap... I was hoping the after show, talk show would help explain some of that but it doesn't..
I too didn't understand why they didn't drill more holes last night while the equipment was there. Heck they need to just buy one of those to keep on the island.. what's another couple hundred grand at this point
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I'm not watching the after show. I never watch "after Shows"
If it is important to the Script It needs to be in it's place. Not after
 

Robot said:
Came across this old posting explaining the "Difficulty" that a ship of the Knights Templar would have crossing the Atlantic in the 14th Century.

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"Far beyond the reaches of this forum can be found many interesting articles which argue against any transatlantic voyage by proper KT during the early 1300s. Ship designs of the day had them barely able to endure storms of the Mediterranean. They could hold the Atlantic coast during calm weather but beyond that they could not survive storms. The European ships of the day were not very large at all and is best illustrated by sacrificing fresh water stores for additional passengers or cargo. There are some texts which detail these ships were limited to four or five days at sea due to fresh water capacity. Additionally, ship designs of the period did not suit them for tacking into the wind, a sailing technique that was required for an east to west northern transatlantic crossing. This sail design and method did not come into play for Europeans until the early 1400s. Finally, navigational methods of the day rarely had a ship beyond the sight of land, save instances when leaving one port in the direction of another port by using a star as guidance.

It is not until the early 1400s when Portugal, with the assistance of Iberian Jews and Moors, took the lead on ship and sail designs, along with solving the mathematics required for beyond horizon navigation. This of course was the ability to only solve for one's latitude and only gave one the ability to return home.

An early 1300s direct transatlantic crossing seems beyond the technical reach of any European during the 1300s. One could suggest a blind sailing course and hope for the best; but the real hope would be in eventually returning home. Hypothetically suggesting such a trip did occur which resulted in gaining the North American coast, in the absence of an ability to know one's latitude, how does one revisit the site? The Portuguese who were at the forefront of navigation during the 1400 and 1500 and who possessed good charts and navigational instruments still needed known land markers to confirm their latitude. Read about the function of their Padrao markers.

While a direct transatlantic crossing is out of the question, a UK — Iceland — Greenland — North America trip was within a 1300 century European's ability. This route was used by the Vikings for about 200 years and is the suggested route for Henri Sancto Claro's supposed trip towards the end of the 14th Century. This would of course mean our out KT possessed exclusive knowledge of this route while other Europeans and their contemporary Orders did not. There were no maps pointing this route, only experienced navigators using the stars for their course.

Fortunately the records from Iceland and to a lesser extent a declining Greenland colony do survive to this day. There is no mention of a KT fleet arriving in either location or any foreign fleet arriving which would be the case, should an event like that have happened. In any event a visit like this during the early 1300s would have been mentioned because supply ships were on the decline and were failing to come every year. Additionally one needed permission from the King of Scandinavia to visit both colonies as was the practice to monopolize trade. We can see in the record for unauthorized Bristol traders visiting and Iceland and the diplomatic problems which resulted from that.

The absence of a record, where a record should reasonably exist is troubling. Perhaps the KT had a member who knew which stars to follow from Bristol to Iceland, to Greenland, then to North America?
This of course would suggest the English knew how to navigate to North America during the early 1300s, but is not the case. Perhaps the KT picked up an Englishman for the UK to Iceland leg, then a Scandinavian for the Iceland and beyond leg? If that were to be the case there is no record, especially for obtaining the services of someone in Iceland.

Either way, the KT would have needed different ships than those they supposedly departed LaRochelle for ships worthy of the UK/Iceland/Greenland/North America voyage.

'Processus factus contra Templarios in Scotia, 1309' details the trial of Knights Templar in England, Scotland and Ireland. This document survives to this day and gives credible testimony to indicate any KT who landed on English, Scottish, or Irish shores would be been arrested.

Considering the hearsay secret departure from LaRochelle happened in October and when combined with a supposed cargo of immense value, this should suggests these folks would have been more cautious or prudent and not subjected themselves to the mercy of the sea.

An absence of supporting documents does make a theory difficult to defend, but it does offer exploring other ideas to their final conclusion."
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This is not right. It's not even wrong. I'm not sure what to call it.

I'd lay it out point by point but the folks that have even a casual interest in the history of the region know that it's incorrect, and the folks that refuse to see why, won't care. So why bother? This is just...wow.
 

cckrobinson said:
It's horrible, but you can't look away.
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kinda reminds me of my first marriage...
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I keep coming back weekly to watch this show go nowhere....it sort of reminds me of myself watching the Minnesota Vikings for 45+ years and I get the same letdown every season but keep coming back for more.........:BangHead:
 

Saying it "Isn't So"...does not make it "So"

Dave Rishar said:
This is not right. It's not even wrong. I'm not sure what to call it.

I'd lay it out point by point but the folks that have even a casual interest in the history of the region know that it's incorrect, and the folks that refuse to see why, won't care. So why bother? This is just...wow.
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Not to defend the late poster n4n224ccw Mar 30, 2012, But yours and another's response to his posting appears to be more of a "Reverse Variation" to a Stuart Chase's "Quote"!

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More like a "Quote" attributed to "Robot"

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The shorts to next weeks show do look quite promising. There are only 2 shows left this season so we are likely to get any real discoveries in these last two shows. I am happy to see they are getting back to actually digging at the money pit site (after 2 1/2 seasons). The mystery will never be solved unless they dig/drill and find the actual pit.

I thought the eel grass dating was interesting. They seemed to also have found more coconut fibers. Something man made was done in smith cove around the 1400's there must of been a reason.

All the rest of the running around the island just seems pretty much a waste of time if they do not investigate the actual pit is my view.
 

its all still there, sometimes its a link in a pg from the menu
links to it, guess they want you to read it all, i found it on
the smiths cove pg, you can keyword search too

coconut link here
Smith?s Cove ? a closer look at Oak Island?s artificial beach | Oak Island Treasure
following the coconut link in above goes here to the pdfs
Coconut fibre | Oak Island Treasure




Robot said:
A joke "About" us Canadians!
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Was trying to locate copies of the first 2...Coconut Carbon Dating Reports.. but now all my webpage references back to oakislandtreasure.co.uk have been deleted, as this web page no longer exists.

This Carbon Dating Report is of interest as it points out these Coconut Fibers were species from Manila around 1100ad and possibly from a Ship!

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cant remember for sure, in that ebay link to the sword, wasnt the date 2014?
for that sale, sorry cant find the link
 

the coconut fiber hunt, maybe they are trying to find the old flood tunnel
why who knows, something to fill time maybe

coffer dam info......
In 1970 an earth cofferdam was constructed to isolate the beach at Smith’s Cove. The resultant excavations gave rise to the discovery of some fascinating artifacts, as well as intriguing evidence relating to an old timber cofferdam. It is obvious the old cofferdam had been used to construct the inlet works to the Flood Tunnel and possibly, also, the seaward end to the tunnel.The remains of the cofferdam consisted of a horizontal “U” shaped structure constructed of logs, and carrying remnants of inclined timbers marked with Roman numerals, and fixed in place with dowels. The excavations were open for a limited duration (before being inundated by the sea) and did not extend to any great depth. Therefore, it is certain parts of the foundations of the ancient cofferdam were never uncovered. Nevertheless, the constituent elements that were unveiled have been used to reconstruct how the original cofferdam may have looked. This, together with the excavation of the Flood Tunnel, will be discussed in the next article
Oak Island Gallery

imgs and Dunfields dig
Smith?s Cove ? a closer look at Oak Island?s artificial beach | Oak Island Treasure
 

Here's something to consider.

There have been 26 episodes so far. According to the American Association of Advertising Agencies, networks charge approximately $342,000 for a prime time commercial spot (based on a 2008 survey). There are about 4 commercial breaks per episode, each containing about 6 commercials. Adjusting for inflation, this means the show has generated no less than $234,930,384 thus far. And that's not factoring in any merch sales or other endorsements.

Rick and Marty might've invested "millions" in Oak Island, but their investment has already paid off big time.

So, if anyone out there owns some land and has a handful of wacky treasure legends to go along with it, let's pitch a reality series to a TV network. Chances are, we'd make 100x more than we would if we found the actual treasure :)
 

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