Season "3" of Curse of Oak Island

[Jason in Enid]

Also, for the dynamic duo; you need not waste your time telling how there is no stone, no evidence, blah, blah, blah. Your position and opinion is well known and well stated (in every thread, over and over), thank you.

It has also been stated many times that this thread is about the TV show, but people keep coming in to talk about it all the crackpot theories as if they are reality. Sorry if responding to theory with facts bothers you. There is a subforum where you can discuss to your hearts desire, and I don't go there (or have you heard that before?). It's a shame when I have to repeat myself because people don't pay attention.

 

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[Robot]

It must be "Really Hard" to be a "Pessimist" and a "Treasure Hunter"

It has also been stated many times that this thread is about the TV show, but people keep coming in to talk about it all the crackpot theories as if they are reality. Sorry if responding to theory with facts bothers you. There is a subforum where you can discuss to your hearts desire, and I don't go there (or have you heard that before?). It's a shame when I have to repeat myself because people don't pay attention.

"Anything that’s going to be seen by 70 million worldwide is worthwhile doing, especially if it doesn’t cost you anything,”

Quote from: Mike Roberts Solving the curse of Oak Island - Local - Cumberland News Now

I suppose with that many viewers watching "The Curse of Oak Island", one of the few "Treasure Hunting Shows" out there... The claimed "Treasure Hunters" on this Forum who say they will not watch, won't be missed...But it will be "Sad"!

 

[lokiblossom]

It has also been stated many times that this thread is about the TV show, but people keep coming in to talk about it all the crackpot theories as if they are reality. Sorry if responding to theory with facts bothers you. There is a subforum where you can discuss to your hearts desire, and I don't go there (or have you heard that before?). It's a shame when I have to repeat myself because people don't pay attention.

As I stated, over one third of the posts on this thread concern someones pet theory. You might as well accept the fact that the TV show is about theorys, crackpot or otherwise.

Cheers, Loki

 

[Dave Rishar]

I believe if there were any timber platforms found...

If.

 

[Robot]

When it comes to "Evidence for Oak Island"..."Proof is more of a Belief"!

If.

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I believe if there were any timber platforms found...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

gazzahk If these reports are true something must of been buried there

If.

And if IF is so, couldn't "three calling Templars, two turtle Rosicutians and an Illuminati in a pear tree" also be possible?

 

[Robot]

"If"

And if IF is so, couldn't "three calling Templars, two turtle Rosicutians and an Illuminati in a pear tree" also be possible?

Brings to mind...My favorite Poem!

 

[Mike Mercury]

So, what I'm saying, Mike, is that I think it's reasonable to think that the rubbings, photos, or whatever that were taken from the stone may well have existed, but not publicly. That information, even if they didn't understand it, may have been very closely guarded. For all we know, it may still be.

good point !

And don't get all worried about some of the self appointed forum police; claiming some are posting either the wrong thing, and/or in the wrong section. If any poster is really making an error with their replies, the real forum moderators will PM you privately.

Ya know, we're poking hard at the Curse TV show a lot lately; but keep in mind there is :

* Treasure hunting
* Treasure finding
and
* Treasure salvaging (once located)

The Curse of Oak Island show is really about the first one. Many times you can't write the final facts - until finding the treasure and working backwards with what has been found.

 

[gazzahk]

I have just been reading up to try and find out if anyone has theorized on how the original shaft was dug and the point of the oak platforms. 170 ft is about 50 metres deep. That is a pretty big hole. That is about a 15 story building deep (1 story 3.3 metres)or the length of a full size Olympic swimming pool deep. It would be pretty hard to dig a hole that deep given the equipment available to a ship load of solders around 1775 ish (going with Nolans theory as being the most plausible). It seems like it would be extremely hard to dig with picks and shovels. Also it seems very deep to have been dug to bury something that one assumes would at some point need to be dug up again.

I understand that the soldiers/engineers would want to ensure that it would be virtually impossible for anything other than a large group of experienced people to dig up what was buried. The flood tunnel system I imagine they had a way of deactivating when they returned to recover the loot.

Still what technology is being proposed as how this pit could of been dug and why were the oak platforms necessary. My guess would be the oak platforms are only half the pit being put there to give the solders a stable platform to fill in the pit with traps etc on the way up.

Last episode they did seem to find evidence of a dump site of material that may have been the results of digging the pit with the side scan radar.

I so wish they would go ahead with freezing the ground and digging. But I am amazed they have not tried drilling a few more holes near the one where they speculate that they have found chapels vault.

Once again I ask does anyone know how unusual it would be to find a natural cavern in slate that they found last show.

 

[lokiblossom]

And if IF is so, couldn't "three calling Templars, two turtle Rosicutians and an Illuminati in a pear tree" also be possible?

You should follow up on that, you might have something there.
Cheers, Loki

 

[Not Peralta]

Amigo's and others, You cannot write a bout the Facts of something that has no Facts, All anyone is doing here is retelling a Treasure Story that is only hearsay at best, no Facts.np

 

[Steris001]

Hey all, just joined and love reading what everyone has to say. just like everyone else, I'm hooked on the show, but I'm afraid they are leading us down a road that has no Prize at the end, jumping from place to place to place, w/out checking anything. when they drilled the hole last week on Fred's land, and found a small void, why would they not drop a camera down there to check it out? why wouldn't they send the camera back down 10X to see if the (2) two posts are still there? or were they parts of the pipe they pulled out a few weeks ago?? I can see it now, in the last show of the year (12) they will come up with something good and leave hanging on until season 4,

 

[neodetectorist]

Does anyone know where funding for such a project is coming from? I imagine NOW, the producers are funding this. If it wasn't for "Hollywood Funding" do you suppose these brothers would be putting all this effort into looking for this treasure? I am expecting The Mel Fisher Maritime Heritage Society to show up and give their professional opinion.
I have to admit that the show is captivating. I do watch it. It is entertaining for me anyway.

 

[iMatt25]

If it wasn't for "Hollywood Funding" do you suppose these brothers would be putting all this effort into looking for this treasure?

While they may be getting some compensation from the show, the "Lagina group" have been puttering on the island for ten years now. The younger Lagina, Marty, is a millionaire. Craig Tester has been Marty's business partner for years, and he is a prime investor here too. There are some other investors, I believe, who are either not on the show or only pop up occasionally at certain meetings. (A) They don't need the money. (B) From their perspective, they haven't spent a lot of money---yet. (C) No way they let an outside entity fund the dig and dictate terms or have a claim on any findings.

If they decide to "freeze" the Money Pit and dig it all out...THEN we're talking about denting their pocketbooks a little.

 

[iMatt25]

...how the original shaft was dug and the point of the oak platforms.

Hutton Pulitzer's theory (he's been on the show a couple of times) is that perhaps any chamber that lies beneath the Money Pit was not created via a vertical excavation, but was dug horizontally. If sea level has been rising over the years, going back in time one might reach a point where the water level is a couple of hundred feet lower than it is today. Perhaps Oak Island was not even an island at that point. Anyway, that would allow a horizontal chamber to be dug out in a dry environment. Note that in the side-scan of the water in the last episode, the team found a large "stone triangle on a larger stone triangle" under the water. Assuming that is a man-made marker, no way that was built under water. It's more reasonable to think a marker that large was built on dry land, and sea level has risen to cover it. For that double-triangle to be above sea level would probably wind the clock back further than pirates and Templars, so that's something to consider. Going back to the theoretical horizontal digging: if tunnels were created "in the dry" from the shore toward the Money Pit area and then filled in, perhaps these side tunnels would appear centuries later to be diabolical water traps to those assuming the original entrance started from straight over the chamber.

Why would a chamber be dug horizontally, then have an exit shaft going straight up (the Money Pit)? Dunno. An air shaft that is closed up? Another interesting claim from Pulitzer: the alleged 90-foot stone (the one with the carvings on it found at a depth of about 90 feet in the Money Pit) was discovered with the writing side face down. If that happens to be true, it sounds less like a message for someone digging down and more like a message for someone coming up...like for a spirit in a tomb. If there really were layers of wood every ten feet up/down, and assuming there is something special at the bottom...from watching the show it seems like several cultures have spiritual references to passing through levels or stages. The wood layers would symbolize those stages. From a purely logistical standpoint of filling in a giant hole, not sure how putting in wood layers helps.

Regardless of one's own theory, it seems smart of the Laginas to look at the bathymetric readings of Oak Island's surrounding sea floor. What was the shape of the island or the sea level when the Nolan's Cross stones were laid down? Or when the double-triangle marker was erected?

 

[ArkhamB]

While they may be getting some compensation from the show, the "Lagina group" have been puttering on the island for ten years now. The younger Lagina, Marty, is a millionaire. Craig Tester has been Marty's business partner for years, and he is a prime investor here too. There are some other investors, I believe, who are either not on the show or only pop up occasionally at certain meetings. (A) They don't need the money. (B) From their perspective, they haven't spent a lot of money---yet. (C) No way they let an outside entity fund the dig and dictate terms or have a claim on any findings.


If they decide to "freeze" the Money Pit and dig it all out...THEN we're talking about denting their pocketbooks a little.

Seriously? They have been on the island for ten years?!

 

[gazzahk]

. From a purely logistical standpoint of filling in a giant hole, not sure how putting in wood layers helps.

Yep.. This is what I have been thinking about. There must of been a reason. The only ones I can come up with (not knowing anything about mining) are:

1) These platforms were needed for some type of equipment that was being used
2) That originally the areas under the platform/s were hollow/partially hollow so these were put there to prevent a cave in on the cavity at the bottom.
3) They somehow were tied to the flood tunnel activation/deactivation mechanism
4) These platforms were needed to provide some type of stability to the workers filling in the pit
5) To stop the dirt becoming to compacted therefore making it easier to re-dig the pit later when the people returned to get the treasure

I find Pulitzers theories pretty questionable as he seems to keep changing his mind as to who and what dug the pit. His latest theory seems to be romans did it...

Does anyone else have any ideas on the point of the oak platforms...

 

[Dave Rishar]

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Belief based on proof is logic. Belief not based on proof is fantasy. It's important to understand the difference.

Proof has made a believer out of me in the past. Groundless theories about what hasn't been found do not constitute proof. I've changed by opinions in the past based on proof, but proof has been in rather short supply on Oak Island for the last couple of centuries. We have no shortage of stories, theories, and holes in the ground, but not a lot of actual proof.

 

[gazzahk]

Found a theory for the oak platforms

https://books.google.com.hk/books?i...forms for in the oak island money pit&f=false

It would suggest digging platforms and a charcoal furnace to draw clean air into the shaft. The diagrams are interesting

 

[Bumbalawski]

Well, another TV show with questions answered with questions. The hype is almost sickening. The TV drama is par for the course. Like it has been said before, " if something were to be found, it would be the end of the "money" making TV show". Business does not work that way. Now they have the "Roman sword". Another plant discussed earlier on here. The Ark of the Covenant thing is ridiculous. And another theory. I am sure Thomas J. Beale will some how worked into the story line. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa is buried on Oak Island. It is TV, anything is possible. The show is amusing and insulting, but informative, definitely not.