Odyssey Explorer seized in Limassol

[AUVnav]

Now the Lebanese didn't send anyone to Cyprus? On your word, of course....

and the vessel was never detained, the recover was not taken, and of course, Odyssey has never been charged with a crime...

Odyssey Explorer is current showing 'Not under Command" on AIS...being towed to Lebanon?

 

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[VOC]

Now the Lebanese didn't send anyone to Cyprus? On your word, of course....

and the vessel was never detained, the recover was not taken, and of course, Odyssey has never been charged with a crime...

Odyssey Explorer is current showing 'Not under Command" on AIS...being towed to Lebanon?

You and your other anti-omex blogers really do make me laugh with all you wild ideas of whats going on (being towed - was that meant to be a joke or are you just repeating what you read on a Yahoo MB again). You really do show your lack of any real knowledge and total naivity some times (or should say all the time).

 

[hobbit]

Explorer is deploying and digging. The recovery is no longer based in Limassol. Cyprus blew it. They seized a vessel illegally and in the process shot themselves in the foot economically. That's what socialists do.

 

[AUVnav]

It added: “Information provided … by Cypriot law enforcement stated that their investigation confirmed that Odyssey Explorer did not operate illegally and the investigation concluded without any charges.”
The Cypriot authorities were this weekend tight-lipped about their findings, confirming only that the Odyssey Explorer had been cleared to leave Limassol and the seized artefacts remain under lock and key at an undisclosed customs facility.
A Cypriot government source told The IoS: “The inspection [of the artefacts] continues but it is a sensitive subject. The ship is free to leave Cyprus.”

Interesting, but wonder about this line..

"When the distinctive yellow hull of the offshore supply ship Odyssey Explorer appeared off the coast of Cyprus shortly before Christmas, the authorities wasted little time in acting on a tip-off that they should take a look at what was on board."

Is the vessel yellow again?

Odyssey Explorer: Cyprus to examine suspect cargo of antiquities from offshore supply ship | Europe | News | The Independent

 

[VOC]

What a shame for all the anti-OMEX pundits

It added: “Information provided … by Cypriot law enforcement stated that their investigation confirmed that Odyssey Explorer did not operate illegally and the investigation concluded without any charges.”

Still we won't see them retract all the crap they have been posting everywhere since before Christmas.

 

[Jolly Mon]

What a shame for all the anti-OMEX pundits

It added: “Information provided … by Cypriot law enforcement stated that their investigation confirmed that Odyssey Explorer did not operate illegally and the investigation concluded without any charges.”

Still we won't see them retract all the crap they have been posting everywhere since before Christmas.

The "usual suspects" were dead wrong again. LOL

Sure is taking the Labanese navy a long time to tow Explorer into Beruit...

I can't wait to see the "looted" porcelain.

 

[AUVnav]

Still we won't see them retract all the crap they have been posting everywhere since before Christmas.

The "usual suspects" were dead wrong again. LOL

What is there to retract, and who was dead wrong? The vessel WAS detained, and the recovery was confiscated, correct? Currently, the vessel has been cleared, but the recovery has not.

Its all about DD (JM, that doesn't mean diet and dental), due diligence means researching the news briefs, known facts, other information, and a logical conclusion. Had Odyssey decided to actually put out a press release, perhaps this would have been avoided, alas, they did not, simply reliant on the obscure media to send out their message through an unnamed 'spokeswoman'. Again, just as with all of their other mishaps, the 'secrecy', coupled with all of the legal history that has not been in their favor, allows all sides of the fence to run rampant with speculation.

Looking through the list of projects, the Victory is virtually dead, and they have been working on the MMO permit for what, 2 years now, without success. What happened to the "confidant permission will be coming shortly"?

The Gairsoppa contract has been closed, meaning no going back for the 4 million ounces Odyssey reported. The investigation of the $4.5M overpayment is still ongoing. The Mantola is still valid.

The Sussex contract is about to, or has expired, looking at the years of inactivity specified in the contract.

Several sources has stated the exclusive recovery contract for the Central America has also been closed. Too bad that Odyssey did not have the capability to remove the steel superstructure and paddle wheels, where most of the gold was likely to have been stored. That leaves yet another chapter in the Central America saga yet to unfold.
Speaking of Central America sagas, the ownership of the recovery has yet to be determined. It is a brand new arrest, so the provisions of the last one are no longer valid. When the dust settles, look for Odyssey to get a negotiated day rate, and little else.

Odyssey was forced to sell of the shipwreck database to pay off debts, leaving them with a day rate plus 20% of net. If the database was so valuable, why haven't they been working wrecks for years, simply working for day rates?

It appears that the OE is back out, doing what who knows, because they are driving around, perhaps they didnt write down where the wrecksite was. I think it humorous that the crew posts 'not under command' on the ais, likely meaning OMEX, not the vessel.

I can't wait to see the "looted" porcelain.

Have you enjoyed watching the recent recovery, the bottom mosaics, and the images of the artifacts?

Oh yes, the plates should provide simply amazing images. You can always go to the facebook page, and read all about the Republic recovery from 13 years ago, and attempt to live that dream....

Slap yourselves on the back on this one, the ship got away for now. Then slap each other when your realize they sold off everything. what is that old saying, "even a blind pig roots up an acorn in the mud every now and then..."

Good luck.

 

[VOC]

Wrong again Nav, where did I ever say that the OE was never detained ?

I am sure some anti-OMEX blogers have OMEX dyslexia, they read something and their little brains turn it into something completely different.

And as for your statement "Its all about DD (JM, that doesn't mean diet and dental), due diligence means researching the news briefs, known facts, other information, and a logical conclusion" You have never ever come to a logical conclusion about anything OMEX, as you are just hell bent on bad mouthing a company for no other reason than your own sick personal gratification.

All rather sad really.

 

[Jason in Enid]

This is AUVNAV when he found out the Odyssey was released without charge.....

 

[AUVnav]

Nice Jason, I expected no less from you.

Looking at the OE tracks, it appears the saga continues. While they may have been released by Cyprus without charge, the recovery was not returned.

The OE has not returned to the worksite. The vessel is currently sitting just off the Coast of Beirut.

 

[silverking]

Sometimes a highly opiniated agenda masques what would otherwise be an interesting and informative conversation.

There are a few posters here who would be better placed on an archeologists forum rather than a forum for those who treasure hunt ... you know - because this is a treasure hunting forum for people who hunt treasure for enjoyment and/or profit.

 

[VOC]

Nice Jason, I expected no less from you.

Looking at the OE tracks, it appears the saga continues. While they may have been released by Cyprus without charge, the recovery was not returned.

The OE has not returned to the worksite. The vessel is currently sitting just off the Coast of Beirut.

Who says the recovery has not been returned ? A press report that thinks a Black ship is Yellow ?

 

[agflit]

Quote Originally Posted by AUVnav View Post
Nice Jason, I expected no less from you.

Looking at the OE tracks, it appears the saga continues. While they may have been released by Cyprus without charge, the recovery was not returned.

The OE has not returned to the worksite. The vessel is currently sitting just off the Coast of Beirut.

Originally Posted by "Strawman AUVnav"...

Fixed that for ya...

*cough cough*

 

[Tnmountains]

Yes this is a treasure hunting web site. That is what we do.

 

[AUVnav]

Who says the recovery has not been returned ? A press report that thinks a Black ship is Yellow ?

No, this one, the Independent Odyssey Explorer: Cyprus to examine suspect cargo of antiquities from offshore supply ship | Europe | News | The Independent

"When the distinctive blue hull of the offshore supply ship Odyssey Explorer appeared off the coast of Cyprus shortly before Christmas, the authorities wasted little time in acting on a tip-off that they should take a look at what was on board."

In a statement, the Cypriot foreign minister, Ioannis Kasoulides, said his country had an obligation to investigate the cargo and seek information from the Odyssey Explorer’s 13-strong crew. He suggested that the vessel may have been operating within the exclusive economic zone of Lebanon, which extends to 212 nautical miles from the coast.
Odyssey has strongly denied that its ship had been operating illegally or that it had been within either Cypriot or Lebanese territorial waters (extending to 12 nautical miles from their coasts)."

See, you need to learn to READ the Odyssey information closely. Odyssey denies it had been working in territorial waters, but does not mention EEZ... Odyssey also states they have a permit, well, a permit from whom, as Odyssey claims it is working international waters...now saying this..

“Our crew was operating legally in the Mediterranean Sea within the parameters governed by United Nations Law of the Sea. Permissions for such projects not required.”

NOW, a permit is NOT required? I guess the 'spokewoman' misspoke when she stated they had a permit...

Notice that the OE did not go back to the worksite after leaving Cyprus, but is hovering just outside the 12nm territorial limit of Lebanon.

Looks like it aint over yet...

Yes this is a treasure hunting web site. That is what we do.

Well yes, that is what Odyssey does as well, treasure finding and treasure keeping..problem.

Mark Gordon - President and CEO
"Well, I have to start to answer that question by saying OMEX has never been in the treasure hunting business...."

So, according to the CEO of Odyssey, any mention of Odyssey Marine does not belong on this forum?

 

[AUVnav]

David Mearns sums this all up very, very well...on the Mercedes...

"Every time a case like this, high profile and aggressively disputed by both parties given is potentially very important for the industry because it allows precedents are established," he told BBC News David Mearns, owner of Blue Water Recoveries, a consulting firm that is dedicated to research, locate and rescue wrecks. ie the wreck, "If someone tried to repeat the route Odyssey took, they would embark on a likely road to failure".

Now Spain is on top of every recovery...so it appears that now Odyssey want to challenge a Nation's rights to the EEZ? Again, 'precedents', perhaps some research into the legal precedents already set on embedded cultural resources in the EEZ. I suppose that no Nation's with an EEZ will take interest?

Just like with the Mercedes, how did that work out?

 

[VOC]

Hi Nav

Remember you saying a few post ago "Is the vessel yellow again?"

So the Independent changed the colour in their article after looking as silly as you are for believing any old crap.

You and your mates are going to look very foolish soon for not realising what's being going on, especially as it's been in the public domain for at least five years.

 

[marconi beach]

David Mearns is excavating a 16th century Portuguese wreck in Oman as we speak with the cooperation of Portuguese authorities.

Marconi

 

[AUVnav]

Remember you saying a few post ago "Is the vessel yellow again?"

Please try to keep up, if you want to try to post some sort of insult...it wasn't the Independent that called the ship yellow, it the the article that YOU posted where you claimed it stated Press Release.

I see that the OE is no docked at the ever popular destination resort of Beirut. Guess they didn't read the State Dept notice warning people not to go there. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/lebanon-travel-warning.html
Hizbollah will have no interest in a treasure hunting ship...one is certain they have no interest in the artefacts on board the vessel?

In regards to the EEZ, the Victory is located in the EEZ, and the MMO required a permit (still pending) to excavate the site. Lebanon is a signatory to the UNESCO protection of underwater cultural heritage.

Will there be another 'press release' on the status?

 

[VOC]

Please try to keep up, if you want to try to post some sort of insult...it wasn't the Independent that called the ship yellow, it the the article that YOU posted where you claimed it stated Press Release.

I see that the OE is no docked at the ever popular destination resort of Beirut. Guess they didn't read the State Dept notice warning people not to go there. Lebanon Travel Warning
Hizbollah will have no interest in a treasure hunting ship...one is certain they have no interest in the artefacts on board the vessel?

In regards to the EEZ, the Victory is located in the EEZ, and the MMO required a permit (still pending) to excavate the site. Lebanon is a signatory to the UNESCO protection of underwater cultural heritage.

Will there be another 'press release' on the status?

Nav, More lies from you.

Please refer to your post No. 164 pasted below; You posted the Independent link that described it as Yellow, they have since changed it.

Like I say, you do not have a clue what you are on about, and never tell the truth. All rather sad.


It added: “Information provided … by Cypriot law enforcement stated that their investigation confirmed that Odyssey Explorer did not operate illegally and the investigation concluded without any charges.”
The Cypriot authorities were this weekend tight-lipped about their findings, confirming only that the Odyssey Explorer had been cleared to leave Limassol and the seized artefacts remain under lock and key at an undisclosed customs facility.
A Cypriot government source told The IoS: “The inspection [of the artefacts] continues but it is a sensitive subject. The ship is free to leave Cyprus.”

Interesting, but wonder about this line..

"When the distinctive yellow hull of the offshore supply ship Odyssey Explorer appeared off the coast of Cyprus shortly before Christmas, the authorities wasted little time in acting on a tip-off that they should take a look at what was on board."

Is the vessel yellow again?

Odyssey Explorer: Cyprus to examine suspect cargo of antiquities from offshore supply ship | Europe | News | The Independent