NEED HELP WITH PHOTO ID OF POSSIBLE FAMOUS PERSON

[Bigcypresshunter]

I think I can answer the question about the numbers and letters in the pics...they were part of the engraving process used to darken certain areas of the photo...much like our newpaper using dots of different sizes for light and dark areas(try with magnifying glass)...and our computers using individual pixels...

Truthfully Goldwind. I cant even begin to read what it says in the most obvious image posted, let alone see any supposedly tiny hidden numbers. Im sorry but I just dont understand what you are saying.

 

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I am a little behind on my replies, but just wanted to add this reminder that there is nothing outstanding on my photo/portrait, other than the so called "RIV," to indicate any hidden words, codes, or numbers. If there are, they are totally covered up by the paint. I even attempted to remove the top paper from the cardboard, but gave up on it when I realized it could possibly damage or destroy it in the process. It wouldn't surprise me if there was something on the back of the top piece to solve this mystery. When this thing has run it's course I just may remove it irregardless of the consequences. It's getting to the point where I really don't consider it all that valuable anymore. If I decide that I want a photo of some John Doe on my wall, they are a dime a dozen in the antiques shops. But I will hold off doing that for the time being and see what "develops." (no pun intended).

I wish I would hear back from those photo detectives. I'm beginning to think I am either on the bottom of their list, or else they don't intend to reply whatsoever. I really don't know!

Thanks again to all ... and especially to Goldwind for his much appreciated contributions.

SBB

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It's getting to the point where I really don't consider it all that valuable anymore.

Unless hes a Confederate.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Cy ~

I noticed that wink in your eye and appreciate it. I may not be a Confederate, but I am definitely a rebel!

Bob

 

[Skywola]

Here is my reccomendation . . . . take it to the antiques road show it they are still doing it.

 

[Goldwind]

I think I can answer the question about the numbers and letters in the pics...they were part of the engraving process used to darken certain areas of the photo...much like our newpaper using dots of different sizes for light and dark areas(try with magnifying glass)...and our computers using individual pixels...

Truthfully Goldwind. I cant even begin to read what it says in the most obvious image posted, let alone see any supposedly tiny hidden numbers. Im sorry but I just dont understand what you are saying.

The 1820s - 1840s was the last great age for line engraving, with many superb works of art being produced by now almost forgotten engravers. Steel allowed line engraving to be pushed to extreme limits, with prints being produced in which it is only possible to distinguish the individual lines with a magnifying glass...this is freehand, not line engraving...Cy..I'm posting one more pic of the most rudimentary type as an example...If you can't see this, look up line engraving and etching..

 

[Goldwind]

SBB...No, your photo does not have code in it...only line engraving marks which I have never seen or heard of before this thread...This has been a real education to say the least...I removed my posts with the other pics so as not to detract from your thread...If I have done so, I apologize as that was not my intention....One more thing...check your post #117..he has an inverted L scar on his right cheek...do I see a white scar similar on your pic? ...Some people Never give up!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

...Cy..I'm posting one more pic of the most rudimentary type as an example...If you can't see this, look up line engraving and etching..

See what? What am I supposed to be looking for? Is this another secret code? Where does it say that this is a secret code? I dont know what that is unless you show the entire picture. And what connection does this have to do with Bobs painting? Goldwind, with all due respect, I remind you that Bob has already said at least 3 times that there is no hidden numbers or codes in his painting. Why do you keep insisting that you see secret code numbers?

quote "...just wanted to add this reminder that there is nothing outstanding on my photo/portrait, other than the so called "RIV," to indicate any hidden words, codes, or numbers." unquote.

I have to admit this entire What Is It forum has gotten weird this past week and maybe Im part to blame. For that I apologize to our readers. Its important to keep it real.


I see you already removed your pictures and apologized Goldwind. 8) but I spent all this effort writing so Im gonna post it anyway.

 

[Goldwind]

SBB...No, your photo does not have code in it...only line engraving marks which I have never seen or heard of before this thread...This has been a real education to say the least...I removed my posts with the other pics so as not to detract from your thread...If I have done so, I apologize as that was not my intention....One more thing...check your post #117..he has an inverted L scar on his right cheek...do I see a white scar similar on your pic? ...Some people Never give up!!!

Cy..I don't have the whole pic..this shows the freehand etching used by an engravers plate..I also could not find an example I can post using letters and numbers as I and a friend have both seen...Think what you will..case closed!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I guess engraving is the correct word for the RIV stamp but there is no metal.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Cy..I don't have the whole pic..this shows the freehand etching used by an engravers plate..I also could not find an example I can post using letters and numbers as I and a friend have both seen...Think what you will..case closed!!!

You might try one of the many conspiracy forums. There are plenty of them that would love to discuss this. We need to try to keep it real here and stay on subject. I dont have the painting. Bob has inspected it and he says no secret code numbers. I hope you understand.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here are the top conspiracy sites according to this link. http://conspiracy.top-site-list.com/

"Conspiracies, Conspiracy Theory, Cover-ups, Collusion and Hidden Secrets"

Tell them that you have discovered hidden code numbers in old paintings and they will probably be happy to discuss it with you.

Or you could start a new thread here somewhere but I dont knbow the proper place.

 

[Goldwind]

Cy..I don't have the whole pic..this shows the freehand etching used by an engravers plate..I also could not find an example I can post using letters and numbers as I and a friend have both seen...Think what you will..case closed!!!

You might try one of the many conspiracy forums. There are plenty of them that would love to discuss this. We need to try to keep it real here and stay on subject. I dont have the painting. Bob has inspected it and he says no secret code numbers. I hope you understand.

I was refering to the pic in post #245...I have already stated there is no "code"..I understand..you'll feel better in the morning..

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

No apologies necessary ... this thread is a tangled nest of fishline no matter how many different ways we try to unravel it. And it's my fault. So I take full responsibility for causing it to get side-tracked in the first place.

I have a theory of my own which I encouraged my three children to utilize at an early age, and one which I employ myself, which is that no matter what the subject is, and no matter how important it may seem at any given time to express an opinion, there are ocassions when it's perfectly okay to say ... "I don't know!" This is my surefire scapegoat whenever someone ask me if I believe in Bigfoot, flying sausers, or the Loc Ness monster? I just say I don't know and leave it at that. Because I really don't know if any of those things are real or not. Nor do I feel it necessary to always express an opinion one way or another.

In other words, I think we are in over our heads here and it may be time for us to admit we really don't know squat about old photos and figure out some other way of solving this thing. Remember, the primary focus was an attempt to try and identify what I thought might be a famous person. But I think we all agree that it isn't. So I think trying to dissect it into how it was made, when it was made, who made it, etc, etc; is likely to do nothing more than just drive us crazy. I also think we need expert help of some kind to even achieve that much. That's why I submitted it to the photo detectives with the hope they could help us out. But even that is starting to look like a crash and burn situation.

So where do we go from here? Answer: Nowhere! I think it's time to cash in our chips and call it a day. That is unless some unknown person comes along, stumbles onto this thread, and says, "Hey! I know exactly who that guy is. He's ..."

And that's exactly what I hoped would happen on page one. And now here we are on page three and still scratching our heads. Okay, so we got skunked. No big deal. There are worse things in life. Things like; "What in the hell was I thinking anyway when I bought that old picture in the first place? With the $15.00 I paid for it I could have bought a really cool soda bottle instead."

Now I'm the one who needs to apologize for getting up on my soap box and making absolutely no sense whatsoever. Oh well, there are worse things in life!

Later alligators. I'll let you know if/when I hear from the photo detectives. But I wouldn't hold your breath! And a great big thank you again for all the help. It's been an education to say the least. We threw a bunch of stuff against the wall but not much of it stuck. That's okay with me. At least we tried, and at least we know now who it "isn't."

Thanks again,

Bob

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I was refering to the pic in post #245...I have already stated there is no "code"..I understand..you'll feel better in the morning..

I know and thats great. Like I said, I was typing at the same time as you were.

I wasnt joking about the conspiracy stuff. I try to keep an open mind. If you truly believe in these hidden numbers.

Also Im sure Bob appreciates your helping, Goldwind. I am just expressing my right to disagree. I also felt that Bob is one with the picture in hand and we have to respect his observations and I see that you have finally agreed. So everything is cool and I feel better now TY.

This thread went 3 pages!

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

~ Much To Do About Nothing ~

But since I have a comic book/postcard/prize still up for grabs, I intend to post a contest shorty that all who participate will have a chance of winning. I figure it's the least I can do to show my appreciation for all of the attention this thread has received. Please stand by. It should be interesting and fun for all.

SBB

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

~ CONTEST ~

"WHAT IS IT?"

(I know - but do you?)

This so called contest is open to all members. The first person who "correctly" identifies the item will win the prize. The exact prize is yet to be determined depending on the preference of the winner. But it will likely be a paper item like a comic book - postcard - or some similar paper item so as not to cost me a fortune in shipping.

The rules are simple:

1. I will post a "partial" image of the item once daily until it is correctly identified.
2. The partial images may or may not be sequential.
3. Please no questions. The pictures should speak for themselves.
4. I will post a worded clue with each picture.
5. Guess all you want. No limit!
6. I will probably only respond to the correct identification. But may save your quote.
7. The partial pictures will start out difficult, but get easier as the contest progresses.
8. Guesses like "some kind of tool" (which it may or not be) are not considered an ID.
9. I may revise this list from time to time just in case I forgot something.

I hope everyone enjoys this little contest of mine. I will try to keep it as simple as possible. Hopefully someone will identify it immediately. It's the sort of thing you will likely recognize or you won't.

Thanks in advance to all who take an interest in this, and especially to those who participate.

SODABOTTLEBOB

1st clue: Item is an antique - made of wrought iron - and may or may not be hand forged.

1st picture:

 

[Goldwind]

Blacksmith tongs...

OK Cy..I've seen you on other threads and you're Good! What is your guess?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Blacksmith tongs...

OK Cy..I've seen you on other threads and you're Good! What is your guess?

Thanks Goldwind. There are members here a whole lot better than I and I think I need to stop talking so much and listen more so I can learn.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Goldwind ~

What five letter word rhymes with tong and starts with a "W"