Lue Map

Hello Old Buckaroo,

I'm not certain you've read Tom Hilton's article which appeared in True Treasure, January - February 1970. Though you probably have - I've attached a copy in pdf format.

As Randy Bradford has discussed in this thread before, it seems Tom Hilton pestered KvM quite often per the location of the LUE, since KvM CLAIMED he recovered a portion of the LUE in Black Rock, New Mexico.

From Hilton's "tone" in the article, he seems to have believed KvM's story and was desperate to make a recovery himself.

Excerpt from page 21 in the magazine: "At this time I was told by a treasure hunter who CLAIMED to have found treasure that it was on a gravel road that was in between two stretches of blacktop. According to HIM, the treasure was within 50 feet off this road on the left side of a grassy slope. There was a large S curve nearby, he said."

"With the clues and the small amount of work I had done on the map, I was able to pick out a place near me by a map, and was able to go further with the map, and both matched up. I called on the phone to the man who claimed to have found it and HE TOLD ME I WAS RIGHT ON TOP OF IT."

Page 22, middle column: "I began hearing rumors that people were going in right and left and taking out anywhere from 1,000 pounds to as little as 100 pounds. It seemed that the whole world was getting rich right under my nose. This can make you feel mighty stupid".

"It was in October that I was told BY THE MAN WHO HAD ALLEGEDLY FOUND THE CACHE that indeed I WAS RIGHT ON TOP OF IT, that I HAD EVEN WALKED RIGHT OVER IT, but for some reason known only to him the instrument failed to detect. Now this is strange, since he was in another state (Segundo, Colorado) at the time, but I did not question his word, and so I began to retrace my steps."

Hilton also writes that he believed the LUE was 40 acres buried one foot below the surface. Where did Hilton get that idea? Did KvM or anyone else claim that?

If one reads the article, it's clear Tom Hilton was a "broken man" after not finding any LUE gold - based on what KvM told him. Like KvM - he never found one speck of the LUE. Sad.

It seems like Hilton wasn't very good in math and physics either, one ton of gold bullion by volume is equivalent to a cube measuring 14.2 by 14.2 by 14.2 inches.

I'm not a criminal detective, but Tom Hilton would be my primary "person of interest" as to whom burned down KvM's buildings in Segundo. Just sayin'.


View attachment 1592568 View attachment 1592591
 

Amazon Forum Fav đź‘Ť

Upgraded Night Vision Monocular Digital Infrared Monocular Telescope for 100% Darkness with 8X Zoom - Grab it through Amazon!
Last edited:
Odd - I replied but my post seems to have vanished. "Like KvM - he never found one speck of the LUE." May I ask why you write Karl never found any part of the LUE?

I remember reading an opinion by KvonM that he didn't think Hilton's article was very accurate. I don't recall now if it was in his Western & Eastern Treasures column or one of his newspapers. I remember the same view of Fred Dorrick's book.

The person or persons who burned his building in Segundo did a terrible thing. I think it broke his big heart. For that to happen to a man who helped so many others was a horrible event.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
 

Last edited:
Old Bookaroo said:
"The LUE map describes ONE location with either 17 or 62 tons of 4960 nicely stacked 400 ounce gold bars with a U.S. Mint stamp in the middle."

I've never seen that information before.

As for tall "tails," KvonM didn't need to "spin" any of those. He was often ready to tease a windbag, but when it came to being a treasure finder - not just a treasure hunter - he was in a class all by himself. Actually, he started the school...

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

​
Click to expand...

Couple of thoughts here Bookaroo, though I freely admit I never met Karl, nor was I fortunate enough to swap a letter or a phone call. Fact is when he passed I was still in high school. I would note, however, that I've done my homework, probably in a measure most wouldn't imagine was possible. Take that for what it's worth.

The claim of 17 or 62 tons in bars is a new one on me, and I have a stack of LUE material at my feet...if that were a suggestion it would be there. It's not so I'm not sure where the concept comes from. Careful reading of the NPG reveals reports of many individuals finding "pots" or parts of the cache, most seem to be raw gold and not a single suggestion that it was bars. Karl noted the following in NPG 6.2:

A Memphis man claimed to have located the site with his party. They claim to have dug 36 or so holes and recovered 19 pots. Another Memphis man, independent of this other party, has determined that there is possibly five or seven caches. This 5-to-7 different site belief is shared by several persons who have successfully solved the puzzle...

There are a number of success reports that cannot, at this time, be published. There are those also, who say that there is no LUE, that it does not exist and that it never did exist. Those who make these claims are inevitably those who failed to recover any of this vast cache.
One California family hauled out several automobile loads and concealed it at another location in 1968. They bought a business and made a settlement with the tax authorities. According to information provided by the head of the family, they are entitled to dispose of the gold in regulated lots in subsequent years and because the entire family is involved enjoy the usual tax advantages.
Another man and wife located a sealed silver pipe and, when opened by an archaeologist, the contents which was paper or leather crumbled. Ironically enough, the couple located the pipe with their metal detector, dug it up and left it, and then came back later in the night to recover it and take it home with them. Just as ironic is the fact that another treasure hunter stood within 40 to 50 feet of them at several times during the night and they were not aware of his presence. The night they recovered the pipe was one night when gunfire was heard nearby; the man who was observing them did not hear the gunfire but the couple did.
In another instance, a Denver man and his pardner, both of them heavily in debt, spent a month in the area without success. They gave up and returned to Denver. When one of them could not obtain employment in his trade, he returned to the site and after a period of less than a week found one “pot” or cache containing nearly 100 pounds of gold. He liquidated his debts, shared with his pardner and move to another state.
Going back a few years before the map was published in the Treasure Hunter’s Manual, shortly after World War II, several men in a timber crew accidentally located one of the “pots” or caches and cleaned it out at night when the rest of the crew was in town whooping it up. They thought it was a placer pocket and prospected the area for miles around looking for the mother lode or a vein. They did a little panning in a nearby creek and to this day they are not aware of what they “hit” or what they missed.
Click to expand...

Compare to the following that was printed as a portion of a letter printed in the NPG 11.3:

I have had experts work on the LUE map and have come to believe that there has to be at least 15 or more caching places. There were caches at San Francisco Peak, Elizabethtown, Black Lake, Mora, Romeroville, and further north somewhere near Salida, and then the trail of them drifts on south to the Pacific Ocean. I have evidence that Don Carter, Nash Garcia, an automobile dealer from California whose name is Larry and this is all of the information I could get. Hardrock Hammond and Associates, Montana Larry, and Elinor and Frank Jones all located LUE caches and got a piece of the trove. Carter was a treasure enthusiast who wrote articles on treasure, Garcia was a ranch-hand who was helped by several priests to solve the map, Montana Larry is the wispy ghost who drifts through the Rocky Mountain empire, and the auto dealer lives in the Bay area. The Jones family bought a business, sold out, and then bought another all for cash on the barrelhead. I see Garcia from time to time and he has managed his trove very well and is a wealthy man. He sold 100 ounces at the peak and is well situated for life and his heirs will probably get the rest which I imagine is hidden on his little acreage. One of the strange developments from my extensive research is that there were so many people with the name Larry involved in the search. Larry Goddard from Illinois walked right over and stood on top of two of the caching areas. Larry Hinchcliff of St. Louis was one of the first on the scene and dug up one cache and home satisfied that he had jackpotted. Before I could get the story and get to the site, everything was cleaned out, although I hear that another pot was dug out about 1978. Larry Allen f Santa Fe dug out a pot about 1969 and headed to Dallas to sell it and I heard he had a heart attack shortly after the payoff that made him wealthy.
Click to expand...

While I didn't know Karl like you apparently did Bookaroo, I can apply a bit of basic common sense to this situation. Many have suggested Karl created the LUE as a joke, what they can't suggest is why he would have done this particularly since his reputation was a crucial aspect of his business model. More importantly, Karl first mentioned the LUE in print in 1966, the last time I can verify him publishing information about the LUE was 1982. In my mind, if Karl had indeed created the LUE as a joke, that's a long time to keep it alive. Every time he mentions the LUE he is shining light back on the story, if it were a lie every mention would bring him one step closer to being exposed. It seems far more likely to me that if Karl invented the LUE, at some point he would have stopped talking about it and let it fade from the public consciousnesses rather than repeatedly, and for nearly two decades, bringing it back to the surface. This is admittedly, speculation on my part, but the reasoning seems sound enough.
 

Randy: KvonM was, at times, a practical joker. And he was willing to take a blowhard down a peg or two. He was also always ready to help people - big and small. He opened his door to one and all. I watched him at a treasure show in Tulsa some years ago, and you couldn't tell from the manner in which he spoke with somewhere whether he thought that guy was an Ace or a Joker.

I never thought of him having a "business model." He was a straight shooter - that's the way he went through life. It is my opinion that anyone who thinks the LUE was a game of some sort simply doesn't have a firm grasp on reality.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
 

If you read Tom Hilton's article - he spent FOUR MONTHS scouring the Black Lake area following KvM's advice. From the article you can read, "He told me I walked RIGHT OVER IT".

Rather than be honest with Tom Hilton, whom appeared to be a desperate man, KvM led him on a FOOL's errand. Attached is a Google Earth snapshot showing the EXACT location Tom Hilton describes in the article, provided by KvM and other LUE map "speculators": 105 degrees, 15 minutes and 10 seconds longitude, 36 degrees, 16 minutes and no seconds latitude.

Precisely where KvM told him the LUE gold would be recovered. As you can see, I've mapped out a 374 acre area where Tom Hilton scanned with his toy metal detector, believing the LUE cache was buried just one foot below the ground. Where did he get that "idea"?

Amazing how so many people just "stumbled" onto LUE "Spanish Treasure" cache sites, either by accident or using a 1960's metal detector with a 6 inch depth detection capability, if that.

It's not that Randy is naive' but he can't seem to grasp KvM was in the business of selling "Treasure Lore", and in Tom Hilton's case, he took it SERIOUSLY. Again, Tom Hilton would be my primary "person of interest" in investigating the arson that occurred at Segundo.

Anyone doing half an hour of "historical research" can learn that Coronado and his Lieutenants, like Alvarado, Tovar and Cardenas found NO GOLD during their expeditions through Arizona, New Mexico and north east to "Quivira". NADA. NICHTS. ZILCH.

In fact, Alvarado traveled north from Tiguex to Taos, but all he found were Bison and retured to Tiguex. Remember, those expeditions were fueled by FALSE claims made by natives and Jesuits who claimed native Indians were mining and smelting GOLD. None of it was true.

As I've stated before, there's nothing wrong about enjoying and reading "Treasure Lore" for entertainment, like Randy, whose only source per the LUE is from KvM. It seems to me, like most Americans, you don't know much about American history per the period when the LUE was drawn, nor it's purpose. No, the LUE wasn't drawn by Jesuits, Spanish explorers or the KGC who were BROKE after the Civil War.

In fact, the LUE waybill appears to be drawn by TWO people: a "deliverer" and the person who hid the hoard, which was buried more than one foot below the ground. 24 bricks = 24 tons of pure gold BULLION?

Learn the UGLY truth - many famous American family fortunes were made, and many wealthy American "dynasties" were involved and did business with Hitler, like Henry Ford, the DuPonts, the Rockefellers, the Harriman's and the Bush's. Prescott Bush (41's father and "W"s grand father) made his fortune supplying steel to Hitler.

Learn HISTORY: Hitler came into power due to the hyper inflation of the Weimar Republic, the Reichsmark was VALUELESS to the American industrialists whom, its seems, were repaid by Hitler in looted gold bullion he stole from European treasuries, like Austria.

FDR was well aware of the industrialists colluding with Hitler's rise in power; whom also was involved in finding the Oak Island treasure, as you know. Was the Gold Act intended to confiscate their gold? Are you aware of the "Business Plot" - which was a plot by the industrialists to assassinate FDR, fearing he'd confiscate their gold?

Make no mistake - I believe the LUE is true and with 90% certainty - I believe I know whom gave KvM the LUE map and why. The deceased "deliverer" left nothing behind after his untimely death - and his family didn't know how to decipher it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot


End of rant.

https://libcom.org/library/allied-multinationals-supply-nazi-germany-world-war-2

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/henry-ford-grand-cross-1938/



View attachment 1593124View attachment 1593135
 

Last edited:
Old Bookaroo said:
Randy: KvonM was, at times, a practical joker. And he was willing to take a blowhard down a peg or two. He was also always ready to help people - big and small. He opened his door to one and all. I watched him at a treasure show in Tulsa some years ago, and you couldn't tell from the manner in which he spoke with somewhere whether he thought that guy was an Ace or a Joker.

I never thought of him having a "business model." He was a straight shooter - that's the way he went through life. It is my opinion that anyone who thinks the LUE was a game of some sort simply doesn't have a firm grasp on reality.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
Click to expand...

Loyalty to friends is a fine trait and I respect your positive support of all things KvM. I respect the man's contributions to the "treasure hunting" realm, as do many others who never met him and highly revere him. That doesn't necessarily qualify him for sainthood however.

Years ago I spoke with other alleged associates of KvM who fleshed out his "practical joker" side considerably, particularly where the LUE is concerned - chuckling that the LUE was a hoax. Yeah, I know - he said, she said. I also know that as much as I've read about the alleged treasure, I still have no firm grasp on exactly what it is supposed to be, and this is troubling and frustrating - enough so that I certainly don't take the legend seriously. The map doesn't help either. But that's just me.

To some, the LUE is practically a religion, but for me it's just a cloudy series of innuendos that essentially rest on the shoulders of a single individual. You may label me delusional, but frankly, my opinion is that those who place their faith in gurus also ought to gut-check their own grasp of reality. As in all things in life, things are seldom as they seem.
 

Spyro: You wrote "...he can't seem to grasp KvM was in the business of selling 'Treasure Lore...'" Perhaps because that is a wild distortion of the facts of the matter. It is hardly KvonM's fault that some of elected to make far more out the LUE than he did. It remains a very small part of his whole body of work. Why would people pay more attention to it, for example, than to The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets?
Most folks today would be much better off focusing on the activities within the reach of almost anyone, well documented in KvonM's many works.

It's not up to me to defend him. Although it is all too easy to take pot shots at someone who isn't here to defend himself. I suggest objective people will take a step back and look at his great many accomplishments. There wouldn't be a TreasureNet without him.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
​
 

Last edited:
My point is - KvM never found one speck of the LUE nor has anyone else, who claim they "recovered" Spanish, Jesuit or KGC gold caches. They never existed.

It's undeniable KvM filled the imagination of many to take up metal detecting as a hobby and "get out there" to find gold and silver trinkets.

Also, I'm not belittling Randy for rewriting the old NPG newsletters either; I think it's honorable to commemorate the entertaining "lore" KvM wrote.

"The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets"? Another fools errand. If one reads "The Scarlet Shadow" - a download link to the pdf is below - one can quickly deduce that if TRUE, the "gold cave" would be buried under 10's or hundreds of feet of landslided mountainside. Undetectable by a toy metal detector incapable of penetrating 6 inches below the surface.

Without a doubt - KvM actually believed he could find "The Scarlet Shadow" treasure using a toy metal detector. In fact, the "Treasure Hunter's Manual #6" cover shows him looking for it.

Think logically: if a toy metal detector can only penetrate 6 inches of ground, why would one believe he could find a buried cave filled with gold 10's or 100's of feet below a mountain landslide?

I mean - wouldn't one use the same 21st technology used by gold mining companies to find such a hoard (which didn't exist when KvM was alive)?

Just sayin'

https://books.googleusercontent.com...CT2mklJz3VrQJvwqZiOlZcz2EEFVs_eyXhkjvx14PRt4E

View attachment 1593146View attachment 1593147
 

Last edited:
Old Bookaroo said:
sdcfia: You wrote "...
he can't seem to grasp KvM was in the business of selling 'Treasure Lore...'" Perhaps because that is a wild distortion of the facts of the matter. It is hardly KvonM's fault that some of elected to make far more out the LUE than he did. It remains a very small part of his whole body of work. Why would people pay more attention to it, for example, than to The Treasure of the Valley of Secrets?

Most folks today would be much better off focusing on the activities within the reach of almost anyone, well documented in KvonM's many works.

It's not up to me to defend him. Although it is all too easy to take pot shots at someone who isn't here to defend himself. I suggest objective people will take a step back and look at his great many accomplishments. There wouldn't be a TreasureNet without him.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
​
Click to expand...

1) The statement you quoted was from "Spyro", not me.
2) I agree, TTOTVOS is much more interesting on many more levels than the LUE lore.
3) "Most folks today" can't be lumped into one group or told what's in their best interest - they all have their own axes to grind.
4) Nobody is disputing KvM's accomplishments. However, he was only human and likely flawed in some ways - like all of us.
 

sdcfia: Thank you for the correction! I got my "S's" mixed up. I edited the post.

Why does the Lost Dutchman attract far more interest than the Lost Pegleg? It's not just the people who died in the hunt - far more perished in the Southern California desert than in the Superstitions. I don't know the answer.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
 

Spryo: I'm sure Mr. Garrett would be mildly amused to learn his detector was a "toy." All those recoveries from the 1950's and 1960's must have been pure luck. Look at the back issues of Bill Mahan's Treasure World or A.T. Evan's 3 Yearbooks.

You lumped together "Spanish, Jesuit or KGC gold caches." There are (or, to be more precise, there are not) many mythical treasures. That hardly means there aren't real ones. KGC has nothing to do with the other two. I very much doubt most of the so-called Jesuit caches existed - those are phantoms. As for Spanish treasure - that's another story. Personally, I very much regret I never purchased one of KvonM's silver arrowheads.

For some reason you find it helpful to denigrate what KvonM wrote. I don't understand why - but then, I didn't write it. You did.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

​
 

Last edited:
Old Bookaroo said:
sdcfia: Thank you for the correction! I got my "S's" mixed up. I edited the post.

Why does the Lost Dutchman attract far more interest than the Lost Pegleg? It's not just the people who died in the hunt - far more perished in the Southern California desert than in the Superstitions. I don't know the answer.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
Click to expand...

I believe more people are attracted to the LD legends because of the enormous amount of publicity and lore that has been promoted over the decades. For all intents and purposes, whether or not there's much or any truth underlying the Waltz story (I for one am very skeptical), its promotion has created a significant cottage industry centered on the mine. Throw in the Peralta Stone Maps and you have a virtual treasure laden wonderland in the Phoenix metropolitan area - one that continues to be nurtured and advanced.

The Lost Pegleg is well-known but hasn't had as much panache attached to it - maybe because its location isn't as convenient to as many argonauts. This is a bit ironic because IMO there is very good reason to believe in the Pegleg Smith story. An excellent book, Golden Mirages, by Philip A. Bailey, helped convince me of that.

In general, the more information available about a "lost mine", the less chance the information is reliable, IMO. I've always maintained that the little known, less publicized legends are likely the most reliable and possibly provide the searcher better odds at finding the truth of the matter. Simple human nature at work. The theme park treasures have become parodies of themselves.
 

If you are interested in the Lost Pegleg (and I've posted several old newspaper articles about that) I highy recommend Ralph L. Caine's Legendary and Geological History of Lost Desert Gold (1951). It's a combination of science and lore from someone who was there.

As I've pointed out here before, one of the most interesting parts of the Pegleg saga is Harry Oliver moving the site!

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
 

Below is a snippet of Randy's post above, which proves my point.

It seems like KvM either manufactured the LUE "recoveries" or simply published any heresay he heard about LUE "recoveries". If what he wrote was TRUE - Tom Hilton wouldn't have wasted FOUR MONTHS "creeping" around Black Lake, New Mexico at night WITHOUT finding a speck of gold - but a few coins, bullets, a buried roll of barbed wire and DESTROYED DREAMS of finding 40 acres of gold buried one foot below the surface. Sad.

Then again - all of Randy's inquiries into the LUE are based soley on what KvM published. Don't get me wrong - there's nothing wrong with collecting KvM books and publications like Randy or "Lost Treasure" books like Old Bookeroo - as a hobby - BUT - KvM never found ONE SPECK of the LUE.

Think CLEARLY: if you were going to hide a gold cache - would you bury it one foot underground? What is the depth capability of MODERN metal detectors? A foot at best?

If one knows how to unscramble LLORO URRACA ENTERARRI you'll grasp the LUE is buried underground in a train car - too deep for toy metal detectors to find.

Also - I'm not belittling "coinshooters" and civil war artifact hunters using toy metal detectors. But they aren't capable in locating the LUE or verifying the supposed existence of "The Scarlet Shadow" treasure - one needs "industrial strength", 21st century technology - not a toy.

---------------------------

Randy's post:

Careful reading of the NPG reveals reports of many individuals finding "pots" or parts of the cache, most seem to be raw gold and not a single suggestion that it was bars. Karl noted the following in NPG 6.2:

A Memphis man claimed to have located the site with his party. They claim to have dug 36 or so holes and recovered 19 pots. Another Memphis man, independent of this other party, has determined that there is possibly five or seven caches. This 5-to-7 different site belief is shared by several persons who have successfully solved the puzzle...

There are a number of success reports that cannot, at this time, be published. There are those also, who say that there is no LUE, that it does not exist and that it never did exist. Those who make these claims are inevitably those who failed to recover any of this vast cache.

One California family hauled out several automobile loads and concealed it at another location in 1968. They bought a business and made a settlement with the tax authorities. According to information provided by the head of the family, they are entitled to dispose of the gold in regulated lots in subsequent years and because the entire family is involved enjoy the usual tax advantages.

Another man and wife located a sealed silver pipe and, when opened by an archaeologist, the contents which was paper or leather crumbled. Ironically enough, the couple located the pipe with their metal detector, dug it up and left it, and then came back later in the night to recover it and take it home with them. Just as ironic is the fact that another treasure hunter stood within 40 to 50 feet of them at several times during the night and they were not aware of his presence. The night they recovered the pipe was one night when gunfire was heard nearby; the man who was observing them did not hear the gunfire but the couple did.

In another instance, a Denver man and his pardner, both of them heavily in debt, spent a month in the area without success. They gave up and returned to Denver. When one of them could not obtain employment in his trade, he returned to the site and after a period of less than a week found one “pot” or cache containing nearly 100 pounds of gold. He liquidated his debts, shared with his pardner and move to another state.

Going back a few years before the map was published in the Treasure Hunter’s Manual, shortly after World War II, several men in a timber crew accidentally located one of the “pots” or caches and cleaned it out at night when the rest of the crew was in town whooping it up. They thought it was a placer pocket and prospected the area for miles around looking for the mother lode or a vein. They did a little panning in a nearby creek and to this day they are not aware of what they “hit” or what they missed.

Compare to the following that was printed as a portion of a letter printed in the NPG 11.3:

I have had experts work on the LUE map and have come to believe that there has to be at least 15 or more caching places. There were caches at San Francisco Peak, Elizabethtown, Black Lake, Mora, Romeroville, and further north somewhere near Salida, and then the trail of them drifts on south to the Pacific Ocean. I have evidence that Don Carter, Nash Garcia, an automobile dealer from California whose name is Larry and this is all of the information I could get. Hardrock Hammond and Associates, Montana Larry, and Elinor and Frank Jones all located LUE caches (BS) and got a piece of the trove. Carter was a treasure enthusiast who wrote articles on treasure, Garcia was a ranch-hand who was helped by several priests to solve the map, Montana Larry is the wispy ghost who drifts through the Rocky Mountain empire, and the auto dealer lives in the Bay area. The Jones family bought a business, sold out, and then bought another all for cash on the barrelhead.

I see Garcia from time to time and he has managed his trove very well and is a wealthy man. He sold 100 ounces at the peak and is well situated for life and his heirs will probably get the rest which I imagine is hidden on his little acreage. One of the strange developments from my extensive research is that there were so many people with the name Larry involved in the search. Larry Goddard from Illinois walked right over and stood on top of two of the caching areas.

Larry Hinchcliff of St. Louis was one of the first on the scene and dug up one cache and home satisfied that he had jackpotted. Before I could get the story and get to the site, everything was cleaned out, although I hear that another pot was dug out about 1978. Larry Allen f Santa Fe dug out a pot about 1969 and headed to Dallas to sell it and I heard he had a heart attack shortly after the payoff that made him wealthy.

View attachment 1593202View attachment 1593207View attachment 1593235View attachment 1593236View attachment 1593237View attachment 1593239
 

Last edited:
ToVS LUE.jpg

Treasure of the Valley of Secrets


Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo
 

Supposedly - KvM moved to Segundo - a God forsaken GHOST TOWN - in search of the "Treasure of the Valley of Secrets" - which was based on Chapter 53 in "The Scarlet Shadow". Sad.

Wake UP! The carvings DON'T EXIST! Amazing - they look remarkably similar to the LUE waybill! Eh?

How was KvM going to find the supposed treasure cave filled with gold boulders using a toy 1960's metal detector, only capable in penetrating 6 inches below the surface? God bless 'em.

The TRUTH is - using modern 21st century technology - one can scan and zoom the entire area "50 miles west of Trinidad" to determine if the treasure exists (he never found it) - in a matter of HOURS sitting on your TUCHUS from your PC - before setting one foot out of your house knowing precisely where it's located.

However - using modern 21st century technology is a bit expense, costing more than a few hundred dollars for a cheap toy metal detector. "Oh LOOK - I found a PENNY!"

Some people's "hobby" is collecting and hording "Treasure Lore" - while some know the perils and the logistics necessary to find and extract legendary gold caches.

You know what I mean.

View attachment 1593496View attachment 1593500View attachment 1593501View attachment 1593542
 

Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Outlaw Gold?

⬅️ Previous Thread

old spanish

Next Thread ➡️

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 3 (members: 0, guests: 3)

Latest Discussions

Back
Top