Help Me Understand Why Yall Think The Government Is Wanting To Do TO Yall???

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I would like to elaborate on what I stated:censored:
 

This whole argument That gun control fanatic use bores me, really. Why do you use the ATF breaking in and taking your guns argument, Why do you care what OUR Constitution allows? How did you get out of Mexico alive, You were not allowed guns, only the outlaws were. Why are you asking about some nut jobs cartoon like it has any rational thought?

And why, after telling us that the police and government would be the ones to protect us from bad guys released a bunch of dangerous illegals under the lie that sequestration made them do it? Early? On the same day they are talking about weapons bans? Separately from the cuts? Even though congress had allocated money already to Keep them?

And why do you try to put on airs of reasonability when you are not?

In the best interest of answering in regards to your post....:censored:
 

I started this thread? Can I say someth:censored:
 

Picker, you said, "I wished someone would have moved earlier against Jim Jones, don't you?" I'm not an expert on Jim Jones, or what they were doing down there in South America. I think they moved to get away from being harassed, or perhaps to escape some criminal act. I don't know. What I do know is I used to shoe horses for members of Jones cult when they were in Northern California -- Redwood Valley to be exact. My nephew dated Jones daughter in high school. We all thought the church was weird, but the people I dealt with were all nice. When asked, they swore that Jones never came into the church through a door, he entered through a wall. And I mean they really believed that. I never challenged that, they were customers, and I said "Wow," and put their money in my pocket. So I was quite surprised about the suicides. I think the biggest problem they had was inter racial, at least when they were in Redwood Valley. Most all the couples were mixed races, at a time in our history when that wasn't accepted by most of the people that I talked to, and one of my clients was a shrink at the State Hospital, and he didn't accept what they were doing. When I had anything to do with them, as far as I can remember, they did nothing that would cause the government to come down on them. I understand things kind of went to pot in Giana, and a fed investigation was launched, but that had nothing to do with guns. In Redwood Valley they didn't flaunt guns. If they owned any, certainly nobody cared. What law were they breaking that the cult could have been broken up and Jones arrested? None that I can think of. I didn't think they were all that bad, it was mostly the mixed race relationships that were causing the problems, and the rumor was that if you were married, you had to let Jones service your wife anytime he wanted. But I don't know it that was true, however it was spoken out loud around town, and even though I think it's stupid, I don't think it's against the law. Certainly not Federal law. They weren't bad people, and they stayed to themselves, paid their way, making no problems for anyone else. I moved to Nevada several years before they moved to south America, so don't know if anything or what might have happened after I left. So you think Jones should have been stopped sooner. Have you got any ideas how you would go about doing that? How about Scientology, you going to raid them as well? I don't even think a cult can be raided in a liberal utopia like Chicago.
 

Picker, you said, "I wished someone would have moved earlier against Jim Jones, don't you?" I'm not an expert on Jim Jones, or what they were doing down there in South America. I think they moved to get away from being harassed, or perhaps to escape some criminal act. I don't know. What I do know is I used to shoe horses for members of Jones cult when they were in Northern California -- Redwood Valley to be exact. My nephew dated Jones daughter in high school. We all thought the church was weird, but the people I dealt with were all nice. When asked, they swore that Jones never came into the church through a door, he entered through a wall. And I mean they really believed that. I never challenged that, they were customers, and I said "Wow," and put their money in my pocket. So I was quite surprised about the suicides. I think the biggest problem they had was inter racial, at least when they were in Redwood Valley. Most all the couples were mixed races, at a time in our history when that wasn't accepted by most of the people that I talked to, and one of my clients was a shrink at the State Hospital, and he didn't accept what they were doing. When I had anything to do with them, as far as I can remember, they did nothing that would cause the government to come down on them. I understand things kind of went to pot in Giana, and a fed investigation was launched, but that had nothing to do with guns. In Redwood Valley they didn't flaunt guns. If they owned any, certainly nobody cared. What law were they breaking that the cult could have been broken up and Jones arrested? None that I can think of. I didn't think they were all that bad, it was mostly the mixed race relationships that were causing the problems, and the rumor was that if you were married, you had to let Jones service your wife anytime he wanted. But I don't know it that was true, however it was spoken out loud around town, and even though I think it's stupid, I don't think it's against the law. Certainly not Federal law. They weren't bad people, and they stayed to themselves, paid their way, making no problems for anyone else. I moved to Nevada several years before they moved to south America, so don't know if anything or what might have happened after I left. So you think Jones should have been stopped sooner. Have you got any ideas how you would go about doing that? How about Scientology, you going to raid them as well? I don't even think a cult can be raided in a liberal utopia like Chicago.

Was it the Cherry flavor :censored:
 

Even playing field here with nothing to hide?:dontknow:
 

What is the Gov't wanting to do to me regarding guns???
Hmmmm....well let's see.
With my situation and where I work, I do not have to carry my concealed weapons permit while I have my gun. Hell, I don't even have to have a concealed weapons permit because of all the training I get and our Union agreement. All I have to remember to do is carry my work I.D.
With that being said, the Gov't will do nothing to me.
What do I hope the gov't does? Take most of the guns away, outlaw owning more than 5 guns/rifles, and use many of the spare bullets on rapists and murderers.
You know why so many people buy weapons out of fear for their safety? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE JUSTICE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK AND THERE CRAZY EX BABY-DADDY WITH 18MILLION COUNTS OF DUI/DWI'S AND D.V'S WILL GET OUT WITHOUT A SLAP ON THE BUM AND KILL THEM.
 

Please lay it down for me on how Y'all think "Big Brother" is gunna get ya in relation to infringing on dem guns. This applies to everyone and every Country that "anyone" does so choose to elaborate on. Let's have a free discussion here with no convenient deletions in regards to the subject at hand? Let's keep any racism out of it please? Who would like to take the first bite?

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!
 

Picker, you said, "I wished someone would have moved earlier against Jim Jones, don't you?" I'm not an expert on Jim Jones, or what they were doing down there in South America. I think they moved to get away from being harassed, or perhaps to escape some criminal act. I don't know. What I do know is I used to shoe horses for members of Jones cult when they were in Northern California -- Redwood Valley to be exact. My nephew dated Jones daughter in high school. We all thought the church was weird, but the people I dealt with were all nice. When asked, they swore that Jones never came into the church through a door, he entered through a wall. And I mean they really believed that. I never challenged that, they were customers, and I said "Wow," and put their money in my pocket. So I was quite surprised about the suicides. I think the biggest problem they had was inter racial, at least when they were in Redwood Valley. Most all the couples were mixed races, at a time in our history when that wasn't accepted by most of the people that I talked to, and one of my clients was a shrink at the State Hospital, and he didn't accept what they were doing. When I had anything to do with them, as far as I can remember, they did nothing that would cause the government to come down on them. I understand things kind of went to pot in Giana, and a fed investigation was launched, but that had nothing to do with guns. In Redwood Valley they didn't flaunt guns. If they owned any, certainly nobody cared. What law were they breaking that the cult could have been broken up and Jones arrested? None that I can think of. I didn't think they were all that bad, it was mostly the mixed race relationships that were causing the problems, and the rumor was that if you were married, you had to let Jones service your wife anytime he wanted. But I don't know it that was true, however it was spoken out loud around town, and even though I think it's stupid, I don't think it's against the law. Certainly not Federal law. They weren't bad people, and they stayed to themselves, paid their way, making no problems for anyone else. I moved to Nevada several years before they moved to south America, so don't know if anything or what might have happened after I left. So you think Jones should have been stopped sooner. Have you got any ideas how you would go about doing that? How about Scientology, you going to raid them as well? I don't even think a cult can be raided in a liberal utopia like Chicago.

Chicago is a LIBERAL UTOPIA...? WHOO!
 

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!

If you took the time ta actually read the whole thread before starting to spout off you would have read that I am a dual citizen of Canada and the United States. That gives me two dogs in this so called "fight". Can you just answer the question at hand or are your blinders on?
 

What is the Gov't wanting to do to me regarding guns???
Hmmmm....well let's see.
With my situation and where I work, I do not have to carry my concealed weapons permit while I have my gun. Hell, I don't even have to have a concealed weapons permit because of all the training I get and our Union agreement. All I have to remember to do is carry my work I.D.
With that being said, the Gov't will do nothing to me.
What do I hope the gov't does? Take most of the guns away, outlaw owning more than 5 guns/rifles, and use many of the spare bullets on rapists and murderers.
You know why so many people buy weapons out of fear for their safety? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE JUSTICE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK AND THERE CRAZY EX BABY-DADDY WITH 18MILLION COUNTS OF DUI/DWI'S AND D.V'S WILL GET OUT WITHOUT A SLAP ON THE BUM AND KILL THEM.

So they go to jail but receive no slap to the bum? Thanks for trying to answer my question to the best of your ability.
 

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!

Hahahahahahaha *feeble* hahahaha! :occasion18:

(Such nasty language! Tut Tut Tut!) :nono:
 

Once again, "why are some people worried about the ATF raiding their houses in regards to proposed regulations that are in the interest of public safety?"
 

Funny thing is that I believe that some foreigners have just as many rights as we do, if not more, and don't need their freedoms listed in writing :tongue3:
 

Folks,

Thought I'd toss in a song to lighten the mood.....but it is on topic.

 

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!

Backoff the Foreigners! They don't get a vote...enough said. Backbacon is dual citizen so he does. This is an international forum. Stop insulting them and show some respect. They are our guests...
 

Backoff the Foreigners! They don't get a vote...enough said. Backbacon is dual citizen so he does. This is an international forum. Stop insulting them and show some respect. They are our guests...

AGREE!
 

i watch the news too and bosnmate is right about our rights being stripped away a little at a time and also about waco and ruby ridge but he left out the huge california man hunt recently they did the same thing to the x-cop...in my opinion he needed what he got and I would have been ok with that, had they not came on national television and outright lied to the entire country at that news conference.
 

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