Help Me Understand Why Yall Think The Government Is Wanting To Do TO Yall???

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Thank you Mr crispin! That really is a hard post to resist,, However, I believe that we are still in the apathy stages in this country: albeit verging on outright denial.

I am pretty sure that reasonable men with reasonable intelligence will halt the infringement of our rights before there are none.
But that has been the belief of many countries and cultures throughout history that surrendered their liberty for their safety.

While I prefer to remain cautiously optimistic, I will also remain pragmatic and watchful. For my family,, and for you.

Respectfully,
Dave

Dave,

Well said my friend, well said! If I turn out being wrong then count me among one of you. My family lives in Virginia Beach. If it all goes down then I will head up there, pick them, and meet you in Chesterfield. Offer stands until positions are filled. ;)

Respectfully,
Crispin
 

Call me a utopian or naive but I just don't worry daily or hourly about being shot by some random stranger or thrown in a detention camp by the government or some shadowy organization. I think everyone needs to empower themselves and realize that they are in control of their own lives. Welcome aboard.

Stocky youre doing a lot of assuming here.Have you read a post where somebody admitted to being afraid of somebody taking a shot at them or being thrown into a detention camp(which can be done for the slightest excuse under the NDAA bill).Nobody is afraid here.What goes on here is called spreading information.Information is power.What you dont realize is,is that everybody that is armed has empowered themselves,being armed puts you in control of your life.How you may ask,because if you are armed nobody can take that control from you without risk.
 

Please lay it down for me on how Y'all think "Big Brother" is gunna get ya in relation to infringing on dem guns. This applies to everyone and every Country that "anyone" does so choose to elaborate on. Let's have a free discussion here with no convenient deletions in regards to the subject at hand? Let's keep any racism out of it please? Who would like to take the first bite?

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!

Above you will see your original (first) post in this thread, accompanied by my statements.

If you took the time ta actually read the whole thread before starting to spout off you would have read that I am a dual citizen of Canada and the United States. That gives me two dogs in this so called "fight". Can you just answer the question at hand or are your blinders on?


  1. I wasn't responding to the entire thread, I was responding to your SINGLE FIRST post.
  2. Damn, if you are a U.S. citizen why fly the maple leaf? Ashamed? Coward? If you have moved to Canada for work, thank What's his name. If you moved there for political reasons, just denounce your citizenship.
  3. I responded to your first post as I did because I don't need to read others' approvals, criticisms, or points of view before I decide what I think about your post.
  4. The fact that you have gotten on Dano's good side is enough to make me wonder if you aren't as Anti American as he is, so I definitely don't give a rat's backside about your opinion as you evidently want to be a horse's backside.
 

One statement to make on this:

Your flying the maple leaf - being a Canadian citizen I assume - leaves you with no dog in this fight.

It is a CONSTITUTIONAL discussion.

Sorry that you guys don't live under it, but take heart, there is the possibility of legal immigration or (for some) repatriation.

Think most of you foreigners want to get involved in this discussion because you have "Constitution Envy". We have it, you don't, and you're pissed!

Hahahahahahaha *feeble* hahahaha! :occasion18:

(Such nasty language! Tut Tut Tut!) :nono:

Wow! Feel like I'm in kindergarten again after reading that . . .
 

I don't understand why anyone would not fight someone that wants to change the basic laws that this country was founded on. Not only should we protect the Bill of Rights for ourselves but for our kids and grand kids. I know for a fact that our founding fathers not only set up the 2nd amendment for us to protect our families from governments that try to take any of our rights from us. I carry 90% of the places I go. If my country wants to outlaw this it will be unconstitutional and should not be followed. As for the ATF coming into my home or on my property in the interest of public safety. My property is private and the government has no business there.

I personally think they will regulate the ammo more than anything. They are already buying it up by the truck loads. If they can keep this out of our hands then we will be out of luck either way.
 

I don't understand why anyone would not fight someone that wants to change the basic laws that this country was founded on. Not only should we protect the Bill of Rights for ourselves but for our kids and grand kids. I know for a fact that our founding fathers not only set up the 2nd amendment for us to protect our families from governments that try to take any of our rights from us. I carry 90% of the places I go. If my country wants to outlaw this it will be unconstitutional and should not be followed. As for the ATF coming into my home or on my property in the interest of public safety. My property is private and the government has no business there.

I personally think they will regulate the ammo more than anything. They are already buying it up by the truck loads. If they can keep this out of our hands then we will be out of luck either way.

Welcome to TNET!
 

Above you will see your original (first) post in this thread, accompanied by my statements.




  1. I wasn't responding to the entire thread, I was responding to your SINGLE FIRST post.
  2. Damn, if you are a U.S. citizen why fly the maple leaf? Ashamed? Coward? If you have moved to Canada for work, thank What's his name. If you moved there for political reasons, just denounce your citizenship.
  3. I responded to your first post as I did because I don't need to read others' approvals, criticisms, or points of view before I decide what I think about your post.
  4. The fact that you have gotten on Dano's good side is enough to make me wonder if you aren't as Anti American as he is, so I definitely don't give a rat's backside about your opinion as you evidently want to be a horse's backside.

Go ahead and throw my lot in with BackBacon and Dano. Next you will be calling me Anti-American. You guys would be bored if you didn't have Backbacon and Dano to bash on a nightly basis. For such an open minded country it is extremely embarrassing the way our guests are being treated.

Crispin
 

I cant get enough of the aggressors whining,crying and moaning victim,ROTFLMBO:sign10:
 

I cant get enough of the aggressors whining,crying and moaning victim,ROTFLMBO:sign10:

When you can come up with a reply that does not consist of "ROFL" I will be happy to discuss matters with you. Until then...yawn...you bore me.
 

When you can come up with a reply that does not consist of "ROFL" I will be happy to discuss matters with you. Until then...yawn...you bore me.

Actually i wasnt even talking to you:laughing9:and I see that you are still quite unoriginal.
 

Go ahead and throw my lot in with BackBacon and Dano. Next you will be calling me Anti-American. You guys would be bored if you didn't have Backbacon and Dano to bash on a nightly basis. For such an open minded country it is extremely embarrassing the way our guests are being treated.

Crispin

Sorry that you feel that way. I'm not bashing persons because they have a different view of things than I do. Backbacon should have read my response (the "repatriation" statement is because I know he is American, so the attack was unwarranted). Canadians do not live under the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, it is of no value to them to try to discuss U.S. policy towards its citizens.

Since he is flying the maple leaf, it leads me to believe he prefers where he is. If so, more power to him. If he is happy there, then I'm happy for him.

As for Dano, he has always been antagonistic about any and everything having to do with this country's government and Constitution. While I will agree with him on many of his criticisms of this government, his criticisms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are unwarranted and provoke a negative reaction from many of us here.

If Dano doesn't want to get stung, then he needs to stop poking the hornets' nest.
 

Chadeaux said:
Sorry that you feel that way. I'm not bashing persons because they have a different view of things than I do. Backbacon should have read my response (the "repatriation" statement is because I know he is American, so the attack was unwarranted). Canadians do not live under the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, it is of no value to them to try to discuss U.S. policy towards its citizens.

Since he is flying the maple leaf, it leads me to believe he prefers where he is. If so, more power to him. If he is happy there, then I'm happy for him.

As for Dano, he has always been antagonistic about any and everything having to do with this country's government and Constitution. While I will agree with him on many of his criticisms of this government, his criticisms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are unwarranted and provoke a negative reaction from many of us here.

If Dano doesn't want to get stung, then he needs to stop poking the hornets' nest.

In the end I think most people believe that there is just never a need to get personal when discussing an issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with affirming or refuting any issue and is generally just a way to attempt to change or end one. It would be nice if everyone would just stick with the issues. Especially given the fact that no one even knows the names of people posting never mind anything about them.
 

Chadeaux said:
Sorry that you feel that way. I'm not bashing persons because they have a different view of things than I do. Backbacon should have read my response (the "repatriation" statement is because I know he is American, so the attack was unwarranted). Canadians do not live under the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, it is of no value to them to try to discuss U.S. policy towards its citizens.

Since he is flying the maple leaf, it leads me to believe he prefers where he is. If so, more power to him. If he is happy there, then I'm happy for him.

As for Dano, he has always been antagonistic about any and everything having to do with this country's government and Constitution. While I will agree with him on many of his criticisms of this government, his criticisms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are unwarranted and provoke a negative reaction from many of us here.

If Dano doesn't want to get stung, then he needs to stop poking the hornets' nest.

Well what do you know. I guess one doesn't need to practice what they preach. It would carry a lot more weight ... well I think you know.

Chadeaux said:
I wonder if there is a way to create a permalink to these two posts. Wanna keep them close.

Both statements would carry more weight if . . . well, you know.
 

Sorry that you feel that way. I'm not bashing persons because they have a different view of things than I do. Backbacon should have read my response (the "repatriation" statement is because I know he is American, so the attack was unwarranted). Canadians do not live under the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, it is of no value to them to try to discuss U.S. policy towards its citizens.

Since he is flying the maple leaf, it leads me to believe he prefers where he is. If so, more power to him. If he is happy there, then I'm happy for him.

As for Dano, he has always been antagonistic about any and everything having to do with this country's government and Constitution. While I will agree with him on many of his criticisms of this government, his criticisms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are unwarranted and provoke a negative reaction from many of us here.

If Dano doesn't want to get stung, then he needs to stop poking the hornets' nest.

I have no axe to grind with you. You are on the list of people I consider to be good men. You know this. Dano is a combat veteran from another nation. I believe his discussion on these forums is part of his healing processes. When push comes to shove I would stand behind both of you. It is my desire for the two of you to find peace with each other. Several of my recent posts have stated so. If you change the color of the lens you look through then Dano becomes somebody you would champion behind. Can you change the lens?

Your friend,
Crispin
 

Actually i wasnt even talking to you:laughing9:and I see that you are still quite unoriginal.

You got me there RJC, I needed to post the ROFL with the :laughing9:. I posted a while ago that I was your FOIL, your antithesis, your protagonist. I meant it. I could take you from you current stage and help escalate you to what you are truly capable of. The two of us are polar opposites, colliding on the internet, with forces guiding us that we cannot understand. Embrace us, join with me, throw the cosmic Gods a red herring. Step out of your comfort zone...

Crispin
 

Crispin/Red,

Every time you two collide it's like a heatwave....lol.....

 

You got me there RJC, I needed to post the ROFL with the . I posted a while ago that I was your FOIL, your antithesis, your protagonist. I meant it. I could take you from you current stage and help escalate you to what you are truly capable of. The two of us are polar opposites, colliding on the internet, with forces guiding us that we cannot understand. Embrace us, join with me, throw the cosmic Gods a red herring. Step out of your comfort zone...

I didnt get you crispin,you got yourself. I dont need escalation.I already know exactly what I'm capable of.I'm comfortable in all zones lol.
 

Every time you two collide it's like a heatwave....lol.....

No insult bill,but you need to update your music a little.Try this one.

 

Well what do you know. I guess one doesn't need to practice what they preach. It would carry a lot more weight ... well I think you know.

Shucks, that the nicest way I've been criticized since yesterday --- just before I was invited by a mark's employer to have a sit down meeting with he, his employee (the mark --- a city marshall) and his friend (sheriff in a large southern city I used to live in) so we could discuss how he was not going to comply with a court order that I am about to have enforced.

I don't understand how you see my post about Dano's poking the hornets' nest or about how if Backbacon is happy living in Canada then I'm happy for him is any sort of insult.
 

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