Finders Keepers USA Dents Run National Press Release

[FinderKeeper]

If they were going to seal the scene, why did they let them watch the first day?

We were on site from 2PM to 3:45PM on the 1st day of the dig , thats when the FBI said they were cold and going to shut down the site until morning then they will start digging the rest of the 3' to gold. Then they asked the Excavator operator to leave the key in it , incase they had to move it, He did. The operator worked from 7am to 7 PM each day , He did not run the excavator during the night dig, the FBI had people that ran the excavator during the nit. The operator returned on Wed at 7am and was told to back fill everything the FBI dug up during the night dig so it looked like when we left the site at 3:45pm Tue. So the operator of the excavator did not see any gold being dug up and thats why he was hired. The FBI wanted him to go around and say I saw no gold . But he is not allowed to talk to us or anyone about the dig. Just he saw no gold being dug up.

 

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[GoDeep]

We were on site from 2PM to 3:45PM on the 1st day of the dig

Can you clarify what you mean by this? We know you were "at the site" as in the general area, but Do you mean you were actually at the hole watching them as they dug out bucketful's of dirt or did they just lead you up to the dig site at the end of the day?

 

[GoDeep]

One other question, your hypothesis seems to be that they dug up the alleged gold over night. Do you have any pictures of them digging up the gold at night since you had trail cams there?

 

[NewAge]

We were on site from 2PM to 3:45PM on the 1st day of the dig , thats when the FBI said they were cold and going to shut down the site until morning then they will start digging the rest of the 3' to gold. Then they asked the Excavator operator to leave the key in it , incase they had to move it, He did. The operator worked from 7am to 7 PM each day , He did not run the excavator during the night dig, the FBI had people that ran the excavator during the nit. The operator returned on Wed at 7am and was told to back fill everything the FBI dug up during the night dig so it looked like when we left the site at 3:45pm Tue. So the operator of the excavator did not see any gold being dug up and thats why he was hired. The FBI wanted him to go around and say I saw no gold . But he is not allowed to talk to us or anyone about the dig. Just he saw no gold being dug up.

You had a trail camera taking pictures the whole time......where are the photos of this taking place?

So they used a breaker all night to hammer thru rock to get to the treasure and then hid all this extra work the next day and had the whole dig looking exactly like it did before?.....LOL

Equipment like mini excavators use common keys by make.

A CAT key starts and any CAT piece of equipment.
Case has 2 different keys for all their mini excavators.
The new skid steers dont even use a key at all....push a button to start it.

Heavy equipment keys are not individually specific.

If they had someone who was able to operate this piece of equipment they would know this and not need the day shift operators key.

If they just decided to put a random FBI agent in this equipment there is absolutely no way he would be able to restore the site back exactly the way it was without a noticable difference.Even a very experienced operator could not restore a half dug hole back to where it is not noticable.

Fully backfilled and restored ....possibly a very small difference in finished product.
But concealing a further excavation deeper and thru rock that had to be broke.
Not possible to conceal that extra work and leave hole still open.

Anyone who knows even a little bit about how an excavation works ....know your quoted theory isnt possible.

 

[FinderKeeper]

Can you clarify what you mean by this? We know you were "at the site" as in the general area, but Do you mean you were actually at the hole watching them as they dug out bucketful's of dirt or did they just lead you up to the dig site at the end of the day?

Finder Keeper
At 2PM the FBI let us go up the hill on Tue 1 day of dig. It was when they started digging at our gold site. From 9 am to 2 PM the FBI dug at the 2 other spots that Enviroscan located metal objects to the right of the underground drain pipe. We were on site watching the dig but had to stay away from the hole about 10'. I had to stop the dig because the Excavator was about to bury one of my trail cams . I got it and handed it to the FBI agent and he was holding it when it was still taking pictures of him . He gave it back to me and said Thats Fuxxen Genius , how I hid it. He did not ask if it was a real or fake cam . So my lawyer said as long as I gave it to him and he did not ask for the sid card, we can use all the pictures on it. The FBI dug down 6' to 7' and stopped ( the gold was at 8' to 10' ) and called it quits for the day. DCNR was at the dig site from 10am until 3:45 pm .
On Day 2 we and DCNR had to stay in our cars for 5 1/2 hrs. NO ONE could get even close to the green tent , and I mean NO ONE went close to it , all day .
On day 2 we left the site at 3pm after they showed us the empty hole , then the 2nd armored truck convoy left at 4:45pm from Sheetz and joined the armored truck at Valley Farms at 5:15pm. We told the news media many times that there was 4 armored trucks and 4 military hummers and 1 crain truck at Sheetz. We told the media SP was on site recording many people about the armored truck at Valley Farms Market at Weedsville . It was there for 5hrs and FBI SUV's were in and out all day. So Yes the FBI had a total of 5 armored trucks in the area. Ya armored trucks can be used for many things but the FBI shut down the roads into Dents Run at 5:45PM ( 12 hrs after the night dig ) and made people stay in their homes while the armored trucks were at the green tent. I don't think they were there for Indian bones and who uses a excavator to dig up Indian Bones. No everything they did after the night dig proves they removed something so major they had to dig at night time . O Ya each armored truck can carry 2 tons and the FBI said they were after 9 tons . 5 trucks X 2tons = 10 tons , do the math, it works.

The FBI did not shut down the roads and make people stay in their homes when they came to Dents Run Mon and Tue . So why shut the roads down on Tue night when they dug at night time until morning and Wed night. It does not add up when they say NOTHING WAS FOUND. we have many people recorded on tape by the SP so we have the proof we need.

The FBI has 17 DVD in their files.

 

[GoDeep]

Thanks for the reply. It raises questions, that's for sure, it doesn't rise to the level of "they wouldn't let me watch 24/7, therefore it means they definitively found 9 tons of gold and several tons of silver", but it does raise further questions.

Was the same FBI agent who said you could watch, also the same agent who kicked you out?

Without an actual written contract that you could be on the scene the entire time, it may have never been their intent that you got to be there 24/7 for the dig. Do you have an actual written contract or was it just word of mouth?

 

[NewAge]

Were there any photos of the armored trucks in Weedville in that video just posted?

 

[Tesorodeoro]

NewAge, the keys are not necessarily interchangeable any longer.
I know the Bobcat equipment has an electronic ignition lockout with a pin#

The Cat equipment I think uses RFI embedded keys similar to new vehicles.

Both of these technologies are likely options, so they might not be on all pieces of new heavy equipment. Sure makes sense from a security perspective. Maybe not so useful when you want lots of different people hauling your equipment around that may not have the key or code.

 

[GoDeep]

Were there any photos of the armored trucks in Weedville in that video just posted?

No, they just showed a stock photo of an armored troop transport/assault armored truck. To the best of my knowledge, none of the alleged 15 witnesses, nor FK, nor the press released any photo's other then those at the dig site from the trail cams and several done at the staging area of the dig site.

As you know , it's just a red herring anyway as the presence of armored trucks does not bring us any closer to whether gold was found or not. Armored trucks are also used for troop transport, command centers, weapons transport, tactical assault vehicles etc.

Their argument involves some quasi guilt by association leap in logic that if there was armored trucks there, then 9 tons of gold had to have been dug up. At this time, there is no direct, tangible evidence, such as pictures of gold, trail cams showing gold being dug up or fbi emails discussing gold being dug up.

In fact, the only direct evidence we have indicates that no gold was found, that being the seized private email communications written two days after the dig, between lead counsel for the FBI, KT Newton, and lead counsel for the PA DCNR, Audrey Miner, where they discussed they were disappointed no gold was found.

 

[pepperj]

Just a point I’d like to make, having actually spent time in remote sparsely populated mountain communities.

There are NO SECRETS. Everyone knows everything that has happened within the entire drainage.
If you personally saw it or not, you will have talked to someone who’s cousin heard his brother in law say his sister said such and such. Could be some telephone games going on, but there is always some element of truth to things.

So that part of this discussion is misleading...that because it’s sparsely populated no one saw or heard anything.
They know everything that goes on and who drives in front of their houses (especially unusual activity at night or helicopters).

You're so right, from growing up in the mountains, it's so true. The secrets are rare, the who done what is known quickly.
As someone stated that folks saw, if they saw it would be all over the net.
Crickets.......

 

[GoDeep]

You're so right, from growing up in the mountains, it's so true. The secrets are rare, the who done what is known quickly.
As someone stated that folks saw, if they saw it would be all over the net.
Crickets.......

And even if they say the saw "armored trucks" and provided pictures, none of them were witnesses at the actual dig site, so it brings us no closer to whether gold was actually dug up.

 

[Honest Samuel]

Were there any photos of the armored trucks in Weedville in that video just posted?

Pa. has very interesting and funny names towns and cities. I am wondering where Weedville got their name.

 

[NewAge]

Pa. has very interesting and funny names towns and cities. I am wondering where Weedville got their name.

Some of the smaller towns in central Pa are Indian names.

Weedville though I have no idea.....but if you blink driving thru Weedville you will miss the whole town.

Wrays Inn
Log Cabin Inn
Big Trout Inn
Weedville Hotel
....little stone bar which I forget the name
Medix Hotel

That run brings back lots of memories .....some good.....some not so good.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

With the constantly changing narrative, has anyone been able to piece together a coherent time/story line as to what actually happened at dig?

 

[GoDeep]

With the constantly changing narrative, has anyone been able to piece together a coherent time/story line as to what actually happened at dig?

I've thought of putting one together, but to what end? For the most part, Finderskeepers narrative has remained pretty much unchanged, but the problem is, FK's narrative is the only one painting the picture and he only views evidence through the lens of one and only one possible outcome: that the FBI found and absconded with 9 tons of Gold.

So entrenched is his bias, no other possible explanations, no matter how reasonable, plausible or supported by evidence they may be, are considered and are dismissed out of hand as they would contradict what he truly believes and i have no doubt at this point he truly believes they ran off with gold.

In that sense, getting the FBI file won't change anything in his mind. The FBI files will in all likely hood support what was already learned through the seizure of private emails 2 days after the dig between FBI lead counsel KT Newton and lead counsel for the PA DCNR Audrey Miner, stating that they were in fact all disappointed nothing was found. Then the narrative will just change to, "well the FBI purged the files", and the conspiracy theory will only deepen.

 

[NewAge]

I've thought of putting one together, but to what end? For the most part, Finderskeepers narrative has remained pretty much unchanged, but the problem is, FK's narrative is the only one painting the picture and he only views evidence through the lens of one and only one possible outcome: that the FBI found and absconded with 9 tons of Gold.

So entrenched is his bias, no other possible explanations, no matter how reasonable, plausible or supported by evidence they may be, are considered and are dismissed out of hand as they would contradict what he truly believes and i have no doubt at this point he truly believes they ran off with gold.

In that sense, getting the FBI file won't change anything in his mind. The FBI files will in all likely hood support what was already learned through the seizure of private emails 2 days after the dig between FBI lead counsel KT Newton and lead counsel for the PA DCNR Audrey Miner, stating that they were in fact all disappointed nothing was found. Then the narrative will just change to, "well the FBI purged the files", and the conspiracy theory will only deepen.

An empty hole is the end of the story.

So we have moved on to the next phase of the story.....but this is actually just a twist to a previous story.
DCNR also supposedly dug up this site and removed silver years ago.

It seems anytime someone digs here they recover a nice little cache of precious metals.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

An empty hole is the end of the story.

So we have moved on to the next phase of the story.....but this is actually just a twist to a previous story.
DCNR also supposedly dug up this site and removed silver years ago.

It seems anytime someone digs here they recover a nice little cache of precious metals.

So they took the silver from the hole and left 9 tons of gold?

Did he silver get dropped out of a Russian plane too?

 

[villagenut]

Well I for one believe in Finders keepers and I feel their pain....call me naive if you will, but that's my gut feeling

 

[Honest Samuel]

118. While most of us disagree with you, including me, I will fight to the end, for your freedom of speech.

 

[NewAge]

So they took the silver from the hole and left 9 tons of gold?

Apparently.

It is stated in one of the older threads that PA DCNR dug at the site and removed some silver.

This site is supposedly a big depository for someone wanting to hide gold and silver and there have been a few times that different groups of people have stashed stuff here.

It is hard to keep up with the twists and turns this story has taken thru the years.

The site is on a side hill and in recent years a logging crew built a road up thru the site......so when the gold or silver was placed here it would not have been easy access.

If the Union gold story is to believed they hid the gold while under attack.....so they decided to take the wagon up,down or across this hill to hide it here.Or they carried it there while under attack,even though it would have taken many,many trips while under fire from potential robbers.

The whole story has holes the size of the Grand Canyon that have to be overlooked to get to where we are today that the FBI removed 7-9 tons of gold.