DOC NOSS-Victorio Peak OR The Caballo Mountains

[UncleMatt]

The idea there are "vaults" just waiting to be revealed online that can then be found with treasure in them is a bit of a stretch I would say. But hey, I would love to be proven wrong.

 

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[whiskeyrat]

The idea there are "vaults" just waiting to be revealed online that can then be found with treasure in them is a bit of a stretch I would say. But hey, I would love to be proven wrong.

every party needs a pooper, thats why we invited you.

 

[whiskeyrat]

by the way UM, how is your drone project going?

i have seen a site on the internet offering drones with air launched GPR onboard.
i think surface pictures like you are trying to do, might be more useful for many searches

 

[UncleMatt]

Regulations for drones changed, so I no longer discuss my drone activity online. Sorry.

And I would LOVE it if someone were to find a "vault" loaded with treasure here in New Mexico. If I knew for a certainty there was something to find, I would devote a lot of time to looking. But that doesn't mean I am going to start buying into what some people claim about that stuff, when they have zero evidence or proof to back up any of those claims. Especially when they are well known for sending people out on goose chases. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[Real of Tayopa]

SDc coffee ? That route was the shortest route ot the Coast for trans shipment to Rome. The only other alternative was a string of mules/Misions , perhaps 30 40 miles apart stretching from Sonora . chihahua. to the coast, plus an excellent storage setup.

How they handled this is presently unkknown out side of the need to know within the Jesuit circles / archives, but they were playing hankyi panky throughout the world, but with the amount of metal they had to play with, almost miraculous things could be done. At Tayopa they have stored up the Expendes for an insurrection against Spain, I intend to open that up, for the maps and records of course, since it is a patromoney of Mexico.

 

[whiskeyrat]

SDc coffee ? That route was the shortest route ot the Coast for trans shipment to Rome. The only other alternative was a string of mules/Misions , perhaps 30 40 miles apart stretching from Sonora . chihahua. to the coast, plus an excellent storage setup.

How they handled this is presently unkknown out side of the need to know within the Jesuit circles / archives, but they were playing hankyi panky throughout the world, but with the amount of metal they had to play with, almost miraculous things could be done. At Tayopa they have stored up the Expendes for an insurrection against Spain, I intend to open that up, for the maps and records of course, since it is a patromoney of Mexico.

If you need help opening that up, let me know, I can be there to help.
wr

 

[whiskeyrat]

Regulations for drones changed, so I no longer discuss my drone activity online. Sorry.

And I would LOVE it if someone were to find a "vault" loaded with treasure here in New Mexico. If I knew for a certainty there was something to find, I would devote a lot of time to looking. But that doesn't mean I am going to start buying into what some people claim about that stuff, when they have zero evidence or proof to back up any of those claims. Especially when they are well known for sending people out on goose chases. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

That totally sucks about the regulations. But sadly, not surprising. Maybe Donald will eliminate the regs that are bugging you.
wr

 

[nmth]

That totally sucks about the regulations. But sadly, not surprising. Maybe Donald will eliminate the regs that are bugging you.
wr

Hmm, as far as I know, there are two new things WRT UAV use: Hobbyists just get an ID number, and commercial folks go take and pass a relatively benign test to become an official "remote pilot in command". Until/unless you find something it's not commercial. Sooo I don't see any real issue. FAA website is over-formal and poorly organized, but that's just typical bureaucracy. ID numbers suck, but if a UAV crashed into your face, you'd want to know who to hold responsible, I bet. Of course, only the good people will have IDs - criminals don't care so it the usual penalize the law-abiding catch22.

 

[whiskeyrat]

Hmm, as far as I know, there are two new things WRT UAV use: Hobbyists just get an ID number, and commercial folks go take and pass a relatively benign test to become an official "remote pilot in command". Until/unless you find something it's not commercial. Sooo I don't see any real issue. FAA website is over-formal and poorly organized, but that's just typical bureaucracy. ID numbers suck, but if a UAV crashed into your face, you'd want to know who to hold responsible, I bet. Of course, only the good people will have IDs - criminals don't care so it the usual penalize the law-abiding catch22.

Well said nmth. crminals will not obey the law. and these regulations are never "for your safety".
I will add that once these unconstitutional regulations get passed and accepted "because its easy and cheap, so who cares". then they start spiraling upward. each year the fee increases and the restrictions get worse. we used to canoe down rivers here in michigan for free. then you had to have a permit which was free (to protect the river) no one objected cause it was free, then the permit was $1.00. Now, 6 years later, the permit is $24 to take a 3 hour canoe or inner tube float down the river and you have to pay a $8 reservation fee on the website to make your payment. So, you see my point, this is just the beginning of drone control, not the end.
Everything people want to do will be regulated thru permits which will continue to be more expensive and more restrictive.
To make this apply to mining so the moderators dont shut this discussion down, mining permits are the same way. I now have to pay $240 to initially get a claim permit, then $155 per year maintenance permit per 20 acres to BLM (plus $10 to the county). I dont know the intial costs in 1868 but it was probly so low that the miners said who cares, let them have the regulation.
just sayin
wr

 

[Real of Tayopa]

I agree WR, but it is not as simple as that, Would you like a 12 yr old running a drone over your place, electriiiiic gen plant, tv transmitting tower etc ? I had to have a commercial multi engine license to fly passengers - for their safety, not mine. There has to be a sense of reliable responsibility involved, there are just too many people., some not too reliable, but it is the best that can e done at the moment. And with enforcing responsibility, come salaries etc.

 

[whiskeyrat]

I have read from time to time a story about the "sheave block" in Cable canyon being an important marker for the story of the guy who found something near it.
The sheave block is said to be easy to find?

So, I have followed the cable from end to end and I do not find a sheave block.
The bottom end of the cable is now buried under tons of rocks and debri, so maybe the sheave block is in that section?
About 1/2 way up is this pipe and some cross member braces. (see picture)
Does anyone know the location of the sheave block in relation to this pipe?
Above the pipe? Below the pipe?
Thanks for any advice.
wr

 

[whiskeyrat]

Also, the cable on the upper end goes up a cliff face.
I did not go above the cliff that day.
it looks fairly easy to go around to the right and then get above the cliff, which i will do soon.
does anyone know if the sheave block is above this cliff face?

 

[sdcfia]

I have read from time to time a story about the "sheave block" in Cable canyon being an important marker for the story of the guy who found something near it.
The sheave block is said to be easy to find?

For what it's worth, it was my understanding back around 1981-2 that the sheave block in question was bolted into the rimrock high up on the mountain. However, a couple years ago a different interpretation seemed to point instead to the lower location. If I had an interest in finding the sheave block (I don't), I would look lower, not higher.

 

[nmth]

FWIW: at the box end of the canyon (East end), you'll naturally backtrack to take the little trail on the south wall. As you do, you'll pass under the one big Cedar. Years ago, there was a couple of boxes there that said DoE and US Army (weird to have both) setting on some rough-hewn lumber. Up the little trail, past the iron door laying there (YOU haul it up...) is an extra narrow steep spot. There was another box there. I did not open any of the boxes, and I eased by the choke point one trying not to bump it. Up top, I could see claim markers and painted rocks (visual aids, or corners), but I do not recall a block like you describe. However, I would not have cared about such a thing. I may get into the way back machine and check my pics, but that was a long time back. If you go far enough, you'll get to (Rasmussen's?) cabin - I'll not give directions to this except to say it's on cabin flats since people vandalize or carry off so much in those mtns.

Good luck, be safe.

Also, the cable on the upper end goes up a cliff face.
I did not go above the cliff that day.
it looks fairly easy to go around to the right and then get above the cliff, which i will do soon.
does anyone know if the sheave block is above this cliff face?

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[Honest Samuel]

I believe this story, but, since it is not in Connecticut, I am not looking for it. Good luck to those who are seeking it.

 

[whiskeyrat]

Well, in the last 2 weeks I have added a couple more chapters to my upcoming book: "100 places were its not".
wr

 

[Real of Tayopa]

Well, how aboutu an p date Boozer [ whiskey rat.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Iam really missing treasureminder 2 postings.

 

[Dirt1955]

Dog, the treasure hunter. I was in treasureminder 2 camp at the beginning because he has an interesting "life story" that touched on an area of research of mine, the Templars. Concentrating on the Templar aspect only, we conversed off line and he shared a lot of his family history regarding Templar connections. I started fact checking, names, locations, dates, etc and things did not add up. Then he came out and stated emphatically "I made it all up" and "I write fiction" (paraphrasing). I can only take him at his word since I don't know him personally. He tells a good "story". But if you are into fact based history, it's a questionable path to follow. I much prefer yours ,whiskey rat, real of tayopa, uncle Matt, oroblanco, contribution on the Caballo's stories. Oh, let's not forget that cagey NotPeralta!

 

[UncleMatt]

I agree, all he did was spin a good yarn. The idea he was posting factual information is misplaced I think.