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NP you have exactly the formula that I used to find Tayopa. There is more truth than most can imagine in what you said.
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Do the Stone Tablets lead to somewhere OTHER than the Superstition Mtns?
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What does the Cross of Lorraine have to do with the Tuscon Artifacts?
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NP the cross is on the lead sword. Very clear.
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sgtfda,thank you,but what is it representing since its on the sword.np
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NP only those who made the items know what and why. We can only guess just like the stones. If as suggested they are Masonic then the symbols would be relevant to that degree.
They are just one more thing to drive everyone nuts. Don't let them distract you from your project. The stones alone drive people insane. Throw the artifacts into the mix and things can only get more screwed up.
Example. There is a knife on the stones. The knife tells us the location for the stones is related to where the Tucson artifacts sword tells us the lost Jewish Christians hid the Holly Grail. The Knights of the Golden Circle are in charge of all this. They decided to hide their gold bars in the Superstitions just to throw everyone off the real target. What is the real target. Just look its all over the lead crosses and there are so many. Why because you lay them out in a pattern just like the dots on the stones and the secret symbols line up to show the true location. The problem is only the Holy Stone can tell you the true symbols meaning. Even if you have it you need to be a 72 degree Israelite Priest to understand what the Holy Stone is telling you. How do I know all this. Because that's what I heard coming out of Rick G's oil can that has the Holy Stones babies in it.
This will all be in my book, Secrets of the 72 Degree Master.
If the above makes any sense to you it's time to take your pill or before you know it Rick G's oil can will be talking to you too. But you never know the above could be correct. Think about it. The Priest on the stone is holding a cross pointing toward Tucson.
They are just one more thing to drive everyone nuts. Don't let them distract you from your project. The stones alone drive people insane. Throw the artifacts into the mix and things can only get more screwed up.
Example. There is a knife on the stones. The knife tells us the location for the stones is related to where the Tucson artifacts sword tells us the lost Jewish Christians hid the Holly Grail. The Knights of the Golden Circle are in charge of all this. They decided to hide their gold bars in the Superstitions just to throw everyone off the real target. What is the real target. Just look its all over the lead crosses and there are so many. Why because you lay them out in a pattern just like the dots on the stones and the secret symbols line up to show the true location. The problem is only the Holy Stone can tell you the true symbols meaning. Even if you have it you need to be a 72 degree Israelite Priest to understand what the Holy Stone is telling you. How do I know all this. Because that's what I heard coming out of Rick G's oil can that has the Holy Stones babies in it.
This will all be in my book, Secrets of the 72 Degree Master.
If the above makes any sense to you it's time to take your pill or before you know it Rick G's oil can will be talking to you too. But you never know the above could be correct. Think about it. The Priest on the stone is holding a cross pointing toward Tucson.
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Oh NP what is really strange the American Israelites started by Julia Thomas used the exact hat and robes on their priest that is engraved on the priest stone. Their altar faced toward Tucson and the priest would hold a cross pointing in that direction. How do I know this? When Julia died in 1919 some items from her estate were sold off. This included some notes and photographs.
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You see Springfield. Truth is stranger than fiction.
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i have no clue who "ben" is...i have no knowledge of the artifacts...looked at pictures an speed read some things...
from the journal article..."
Haury (1988, 2004: 130) recalled that when he arrived as a student in 1925 the Arizona State Museum was located in several rooms on the third floor of the Agriculture (now Forbes) Building. It was mostly a one-man operation. Byron Cummings was the museum director as well as head of the Archaeology Department, and his sister recorded visitors and showed them through the museum. Cummings was in Mexico during the summer of 1924, excavating at the site of Cuicuilco, so was not present when the first set of artifacts was examined by Karl Ruppert and A. E. Douglass, who were covering some of Cummings' responsibilities while he was in Mexico. "
these were the early days of anthropology, and it's attendent sub-field, archaeology...
prior to marx, all of this activity was considered history, and the mad professor searhing for lost civilizations...
from the journal article..."
Haury (1988, 2004: 130) recalled that when he arrived as a student in 1925 the Arizona State Museum was located in several rooms on the third floor of the Agriculture (now Forbes) Building. It was mostly a one-man operation. Byron Cummings was the museum director as well as head of the Archaeology Department, and his sister recorded visitors and showed them through the museum. Cummings was in Mexico during the summer of 1924, excavating at the site of Cuicuilco, so was not present when the first set of artifacts was examined by Karl Ruppert and A. E. Douglass, who were covering some of Cummings' responsibilities while he was in Mexico. "
these were the early days of anthropology, and it's attendent sub-field, archaeology...
prior to marx, all of this activity was considered history, and the mad professor searhing for lost civilizations...
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cool map...
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Donald,
What you have written is true, but Manier found the first artifact on September 13, 1924. Both Cummings and Haury participated in recovering some of the artifacts from the site. They both returned from Cuicuilco in central Mexico around Sept. 12, 1925.
Both men, eventually, came to the conclusion that the artifacts were a hoax. Barry Fell, someone who is a well known proponent and author from the "diffusionist" camp came to the same conclusion. He was also a friend of Cyclone Covey, more likely to confirm authenticity than deny it.
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The Cross which you posted is not Lorraine . Is Archiepiscopal or Patriarchal like these .
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Patriarchal Cross[/h]The symbol, often referred to as the patriarchal cross, appeared in the Byzantine Empire in large numbers in the 9th century. In the Byzantine Empire of the 9th century, the double cross was not a religious, but a political symbol used by Byzantine clerks and missionaries
The Lorraine Cross is this
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The Cross which you posted is not Lorraine . Is Archiepiscopal or Patriarchal like these .
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The Lorraine Cross is this
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the cross of Lorraine is the same as the archiepiscopal cross and is used on the flag of the province, it was also used as a symbol of the free French forces during WW2 the one with two equal arms is the archbishops cross,
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sgtfda,you mentioned the kgc and horse,look up the seal for the confederacy,it has george washington riding a white horse,plus as you know he was a master mason.np
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the cross was use in africa, and the cross with the slanted bar on the bottom also represents white lead.np
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We've discussed archeologists, kgc, tuscon artifacts and stone tablets...has any one looked into what Edgar Casey had to say about the southern Nevada and Arizona area. You might be amazed. NP
the colour is immaterial, we are talking about the shape those you posted are black, your splitting hairs to try and prove a point, you also stated it was not the flag of Lorraine which it clearly is,
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Dr. Alexander Roman tell about :
" The two-tiered Cross signified higher authority, Metropolitanical and Patriarchal. That it was granted to a religious Order of Knights was quite remarkable. On their flags and shields, the Templar two-tiered Cross would have simply been two horizontal bars of equal lengthy going from end to end. However, the particular two-tiered Cross the Templars bore, as indicated by the ones the commanders wore around their necks (and which Templar orders today wear such as the Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem), show that the second tier was not above the main 'arm-bar' of the Cross, but below which is where the feet of Christ would have been nailed, the 'sub-padenum' (foot-rest) that is prominent in Eastern Crosses, especially the Russian Orthodox Calvary Cross.
For the Templars, the red cross represented at once their mission to protect the pilgrims to the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem and self-sacrifice in imitation of the One crucified on it. A number of their grand masters had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre on their coats of arms or seals and this also represented for them the 'Temple of Jerusalem' (prefigured in the Old Testament by the Temple of Solomon near where they had their HQ). "
In 800 AC this Cross had an Metropolitanical and Patriarchal meaning . For that era is what we talking about .
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Dr. Alexander Roman tell about :
" The two-tiered Cross signified higher authority, Metropolitanical and Patriarchal. That it was granted to a religious Order of Knights was quite remarkable. On their flags and shields, the Templar two-tiered Cross would have simply been two horizontal bars of equal lengthy going from end to end. However, the particular two-tiered Cross the Templars bore, as indicated by the ones the commanders wore around their necks (and which Templar orders today wear such as the Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem), show that the second tier was not above the main 'arm-bar' of the Cross, but below which is where the feet of Christ would have been nailed, the 'sub-padenum' (foot-rest) that is prominent in Eastern Crosses, especially the Russian Orthodox Calvary Cross.
For the Templars, the red cross represented at once their mission to protect the pilgrims to the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem and self-sacrifice in imitation of the One crucified on it. A number of their grand masters had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre on their coats of arms or seals and this also represented for them the 'Temple of Jerusalem' (prefigured in the Old Testament by the Temple of Solomon near where they had their HQ). "
In 800 AC this Cross had an Metropolitanical and Patriarchal meaning . For that era is what we talking about .
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Thank you for the information markmar. np
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