There is a second version of the Peralta Tesoro Mappa on display at the SMHS Museum.I believe it's attributed to Robert Garman.
Perhaps someone has a good copy they can post here.
Garman also had a somewhat translated waybill which has been previously posted.
Here it is again.....
The Garman/Tumlinson relationship was also discussed some time ago on another site.
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Post subject: Re: Peralta Stone Maps - Clarence Mitchell Era to the Present
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:12 pm
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The answer could be in the version Bob Garman told which is as follows:
He met Robert Tumlinson in Randolph canyon in 1955. Tumlinson was with 2 other guys and told Garman and his companion that they had some spanish treasure maps. Garman told Tumlinson he could stop by his house and Garman would see if he could be of any help deciphering them. Tumlinson said he would stop by for a visit but couldn't give Garman any info of what was on the maps cause Travis didn't want anyone else to know what was there.
Garman got to know Robert(He doesn't mention if he met with Travis) and said that Robert told him that Travis was on his way to Texas to visit his parents and pulled off the road for a look at the Superstitions and to see if he could see Weavers Needle. It was at this time he found ONE map. He took that map to Florence Junction and washed it off, after the bystander comment that it looked like a treasure map, he then continued on to Texas. His Dad couldn't figure out what he had, so they took it to a nearby university where someone said it was at least 100 years old. Travis did stop on his way back through, but found nothing else. The map he found was the Priest/Horse map.
Travis then made several trips looking for more maps with Robert, they believed there were more cause the 1st map said search for the heart. They finally found the Don and Cross stones and later found the heart buried deep below them......
If this story is correct then the photo could not have been taken at the first discovery, but explains why the priest/horse map isn't in the picture.
It can also explain how others came into the picture as they made a number of trips over time and while particulars of the stones were kept secret, they readily were telling their story by 1955.
Garman also mentioned that when he met Robert Tumlinson, that he was told they found the maps a year or so ago. Garman was sure of the year he met them and is a decent first hand witness, while he had interest in the stones, I don't believe he was very involved as he was generally prospecting for silver in the mountains.
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Post subject: Re: Peralta Stone Maps - Clarence Mitchell Era to the Present
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Wayne,
I also believe Garman may be the best “early” source we have. I have his book (Published in 1975) and also an article that was published in the Superstition Mountain Journal written by Garman (Published in 1984).
The story you have told appears to be a slightly different version. Can you share where you took your story? I would like to run that reference down and bounce it off of Garman’s other accounts.
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He met Robert Tumlinson in Randolph canyon in 1955. Tumlinson was with 2 other guys and told Garman and his companion that they had some spanish treasure maps. Garman told Tumlinson he could stop by his house and Garman would see if he could be of any help deciphering them. Tumlinson said he would stop by for a visit but couldn't give Garman any info of what was on the maps cause Travis didn't want anyone else to know what was there.
From Garman’s book on page 18, Garman writes: “The author first met R. G. Tumlinson and his nephew in Randolph Canyon, Superstition Mountains in 1952. At that time they told me of the discovery of the stone maps, and at the same time pledged me to secrecy.”
Could this have been two separate incidents? Your story was in 1955 and apparently Travis wasn’t with Robert?
Rechecking my Garman references, I’m becoming more confused. The book I have was a first printing. I also have a copies of several pages, that Larry Webb provided me several years ago, from a Third Edition. In that book Garman had apparently added a dedication section in which he has a short story for Herman Pertach, Travis Tumlinson, Robert Tumlinson and Don Miguel Peralta.
I don’t see any glaring discrepancies, that might indicate, that Garman was trying to spin the story but I think Garman’s relationship with the Tumlinsons is interesting and I would like to put his accounts together as best I can.
Garry"
Both Wayne and Gary have done some very good research into the history of the stones and those who were involved in then early years.
My hat, as always, is off to them.
Regards:SH.
PS: It is my belief that the H/P stone and the red Heart stone on display at the museum are originals.
That the two Trail stones are copies, and all four were indeed the same ones that were donated to the Flagg Foundation.
Mike: As I recall, and I probably have a copy of it somewhere in my files, you once posted that when Mitchell handed over control of MOEL to the stockholders, Mitchell had two sets of stones. Mitchell gave them two which were copies and two which were original.
And that he kept two copies and two originals (as purchased from Aileen Tumlinson) for himself. Does this souind correct ?
