Basic signs and symbols you have found

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The square cut and rock fit into it is really interesting. The "plug" if you will, doesnt have the sunburn like the rest of the rock meaning it is either a different stone Or the same piece cut from the big stone just reversed and put back into the hole. I would take tons of pics of everything close to it, especially up close and around the cut, and then see if you could remove it. There could be something on the other side of the plug, or under/behind it. That would be my main area to check.

that is just my opinion. J
 

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jayheazy said:
The square cut and rock fit into it is really interesting. The "plug" if you will, doesnt have the sunburn like the rest of the rock meaning it is either a different stone Or the same piece cut from the big stone just reversed and put back into the hole. I would take tons of pics of everything close to it, especially up close and around the cut, and then see if you could remove it. There could be something on the other side of the plug, or under/behind it. That would be my main area to check.

that is just my opinion. J
Just under the square cut plug, bottom right hand side, there appears to be a prop rock. It is very small. Behind the plug is a solid rock wall. The whole mound appears to be exfoliating granite or concretion type rock. I have never noticed exfoliating sandstone. If it is solid rock, I doubt it goes anywhere much further than the rock wall seen inside the doorway but behind the plug. It may just be a pocket space back there with some loot in it.

I see signs that say climb up the mound next to the plug and inspect the area from above. I see an eye, a boot, a man climbing, a view hole, and square plug. Left to right in that order.
 

thom, going back to post #195, is that death trap set up to protect something or is it simply to kill or injure the unsuspecting?
:dontknow: thanks for your time.
 

Ok....how tall is the grass? I rarely find desert grass taller than waist high. Normally it is ankle high. That would make the square plug about palm size, right? Right? Crickets.....hello? Could the owner of this picture tell us how tall the grass is? It looks like a death trap for a cricket.


UPDATE: I hope everyone wasn't killed by death traps yesterday. Crickets.....
 

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Sorry, standing next to the "plug", the top is a little more than waist high. It caught my attention because the hole looked purposely cut out, more than the look that the plug had been placed/returned???
 

mannings said:
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Sorry, standing next to the "plug", the top is a little more than waist high. It caught my attention because the hole looked purposely cut out, more than the look that the plug had been placed/returned???

You may find these with the plug removed when the Spanish came through.
These I find were left by the ancients and have something to do with what the Spanish were looking for.
I have pics of these that are 6 x 6 foot square. or bigger.
The Spanish NEVER left one plugged. (I don't know why) but if I were you,
I would take a hint.
Just to make me feel better though ... Please put the plug back when you find nothing behind it.

:laughing9:
 

10claw said:
thom, going back to post #195, is that death trap set up to protect something or is it simply to kill or injure the unsuspecting?
:dontknow: thanks for your time.

In the crack behind the stack of rocks, that is where the cache is.
It is back filled with small rocks and gravel.
We followed a three mile trail to this place. (one of the longer treasure trails I have found)
They usually only last about a mile and a half.
 

Sorry, I was so bored yesterday and the board moved so slowly I could hear my hair growing. I sat in the office all day yesterday. Guess I was losing my mind ;) They may be telling you to follow the trail up to find another type of stowage compartment somewhere else.

Here's a few "looks like..."
 

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General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location? Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or ???

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.
 

mannings said:
General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location? Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or ???

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.
Since I have not found any loot yet, I will give my opinion based upon myself having a bunch of loot to hide. I would not think it would necessarily need to be in a secluded canyon or such. 500 years ago, who was watching. Even 100 years ago. Who was watching you take those pictures? To me, it would have been in a place that no other people traveled, or didn't travel mch, (at that time). Given the word currently extensive population, people are travelling EVERYWHERE.

As I marked up in the picture earlier, my guess is that you need to follow the (apparent) signs to the left of the plug, for your more secluded location. To me, the signs on the left are telling you that you are going to need to climb to find the next clue or the end of the trail. I can't see anyone putting any loot in a hole next trail markers. The markers don't even seem that complicated. Either there is nothing behind that plug, the signs are false leads, or there is something to be found further down the trail.

The sign that looks like an eye, to me, does not fit the same motiff as the boot and the silhouette. Maybe I am just seeing things. In any case, my opinion is to follow what is on the rock before you move the plug. I can't see anything of consequence being behind there.

If this is in the same area where you showed the J.T. Morse writings, I know there have to be cliffs in your area. I saw it on GE. Maybe you are looking for a cave or entrance up on a cliff wall and it might be plugged with caliche or fill dirt. Maybe the plug is part of the clue. As I stated before, there appears to be no compartment behind the plug, it's only waist high, and would to too easy to loot someone's treasure from.

HH
 

Blind.In.Texas said:
mannings said:
General Question:

What is everyone's best guess as to a "typical" type of treasure room/vault/tunnel location? Meaning, I would THINK that a critical point would be secrecy and the ultimate spot would need be such a place they could be assured no one was watching???

So, were they more likely to select canyons or ???

I realize, too, I could be waaay off on my general assumption.
Since I have not found any loot yet, I will give my opinion based upon myself having a bunch of loot to hide. I would not think it would necessarily need to be in a secluded canyon or such. 500 years ago, who was watching. Even 100 years ago. Who was watching you take those pictures? To me, it would have been in a place that no other people traveled, or didn't travel mch, (at that time). Given the word currently extensive population, people are travelling EVERYWHERE.

As I marked up in the picture earlier, my guess is that you need to follow the (apparent) signs to the left of the plug, for your more secluded location. To me, the signs on the left are telling you that you are going to need to climb to find the next clue or the end of the trail. I can't see anyone putting any loot in a hole next trail markers. The markers don't even seem that complicated. Either there is nothing behind that plug, the signs are false leads, or there is something to be found further down the trail.

The sign that looks like an eye, to me, does not fit the same motiff as the boot and the silhouette. Maybe I am just seeing things. In any case, my opinion is to follow what is on the rock before you move the plug. I can't see anything of consequence being behind there.

If this is in the same area where you showed the J.T. Morse writings, I know there have to be cliffs in your area. I saw it on GE. Maybe you are looking for a cave or entrance up on a cliff wall and it might be plugged with caliche or fill dirt. Maybe the plug is part of the clue. As I stated before, there appears to be no compartment behind the plug, it's only waist high, and would to too easy to loot someone's treasure from.

HH

Blind,

Thanks for the response! I am actually not referring at all to the plug as it is not in the "Top 20" interesting things in the immediate area. The area has cliffs, washes, rivers (small) and many canyons. I was only hoping they would want to find a secluded spot to stash, as it greatly reduces the searching area.
All pics are in the same area (1/2 mile).

To answer your question as to "who was watching?" Indians. Most everywhere in the U.S. had indians that "knew" who was around and what they were up to. This area is no different. My dad once told me the indians didn't care and would never dig up the treasure. With all due respect to me dad (and realize I could be wrong), I staunchly disagree. Number 1, the indians WOULD care what was going on in their lands and NUMBER 2, the Spanish (or whoever) would not assume they wouldn't care.

Thanks again!

M
 

That is a good assumption on your part mannings.
I can never argue with that idea.
When the Spanish came through this country the indians made friends, they worked together and the natives learned the signs and symbols.
(Then the indians got pissed for several reasons and drove them out.)
Many of the caches were moved and rehidden mines were covered and signs were destroyed. Much remains to be found.
 

In my opinion, more of a guess, the so called plug is also an eye catcher. I would take plenty of pictures at a different angle and at different times of day to see which shadows that might develop around the plug seeing that the rock is not a tight fit. Also I would check out the rocks and pile of dirt to the site of the plug. Also see how the rocks are laid out. If you remove the plug check out the rock it is sitting on. Also what you are looking for might not go back in the solid rock but might go down. Check for rock maps that might be burred there. Make sure you mark North and South on the rocks before you remove them. Take plenty of pictures so you can put it back the same way. Good Luck!
 

spanish or wishful thinking?
 

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Brent,
The depth of the hole x the width of the hole in cm.
in the direction of the notch or chiseled line.
 

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Hi!
I hope you guys have an idea to this pictures. what do you think? thanks
 

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Negro said:
Hi!
I hope you guys have an idea to this pictures. what do you think? thanks

Your sign is definitly chiseled and detailed. It wraps around the stone to the lower right from the upper left, and across the face with details I can't make out. Do you have pictures of this from other angles that show more of the stone?
 

Negro:
That stone in the background of you photo (at the top) looks like it may have
some kind of corresponding mark on it. It looks to be a duplicate of the lower
right curved marking on the front stone.
 

Negro,
if it were me I would be looking in the direction to the right to see if there was any other rocks or symbols.
ts4
 

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