Basic signs and symbols you have found

[heartquest]

heart,
Rangler the photo of the dolman is amazing!

I didnt know about that pic in kenworthy,

I might be wrong...that may have been in Calvin's book Turtles to Treasure. Hmm, I guess I should go review that.

Thanx Rangler

 

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[Shortstack]

Just my thought
If your going to follow written data
then lets look at Kenworthy book -
"Treasure Signs, Symbols, Shadow and Sun Signs" - Page 21

Let take a look at what we have in front of us
The Left Lobe is Larger giving Direction
The X means to go to the left side of this Heart Marker
And the Heart - Conformation
And all three messages gives it credibility

Lost Horse

This makes a lot more sense. Some of the really convoluted explanations seem too "involved" to have been easily used by the "codemakers". There have been so many odd ball compass headings, carvings that say go that way, (but really go in the opposite direction), and the left over numbers, letters, and symbols; that it would have taken a set of encyclopedias to keep track of the signs. I believe that the Spanish used the larger carvings and shadow signs to plot out their trails and did not use all of the screwy forward, backward, sideways, and stand-on-your-head leads. One has to wonder if the Spanish foresaw the population explosion that took place over the 600 to 700 years to follow their explorations. And, more important; did they actually think the King's men to follow, would never show up? Well, SOMEBODY showed up. The KGC?? some other unknown group?? The U.S. Government (like they did at Victorio Peak??)?

 

[rangler]

lost horse,
you stated...
"Just my thought
If your going to follow written data
then lets look at Kenworthy book -
"Treasure Signs, Symbols, Shadow and Sun Signs" - Page 21

Let take a look at what we have in front of us
The Left Lobe is Larger giving Direction
The X means to go to the left side of this Heart Marker
And the Heart - Conformation
And all three messages gives it credibility"

Thanks for your post and comments,
I dont know if you noticed but you marked that heart exactly the way I did[except I added
the arrow using the right side of the X as indicated by the larger lobe at the right]

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149002.msg2960792.html#msg2960792

and as kenworthy would have done. [did]..what I added was to not 'stay' to the right
for the trail, but to 'point' the exact compass bearing for the trail...kenworthy did not
find out about how the different elements played a part in the monuments...he got us
to where we are now, this is a push to define the aspects that are hidden and not
apparent.[the lines of sight and bearing lines are 'invisible' after all...]
rangler
ps the code is written in the air~!

 

[desertmoons]

I'm 100 per cent sure that kenworthy did not publish all he knew.

 

[heartquest]

Ranger and Lost Horse,
Thanks for marking the little x heart for us. You marked it the same except you saw the lobes differently. It's funny but one lobe is higher and one is more extended to the side. This is mostly just the photo. When you see the heart in person, the right lobe is clearly the big one and that side of the x does point to the smiley twin pointers. whether this is correct, who knows... but all these items sit prominantly on the rock shelf and then point up the hillside to another tomb thing. It is hard to reach, not an easy climb, so we don't have as many photos of that place, which has very interesting stuff all around it, just like the other tomb does.

 

[Lost Horse]

Hi Rangler,

So let me see if I am getting this right…

The Markers I pointed out, Points out the Trail?

And what you are suggesting, is that the Line is pointing out the destination
By using an azimuth like survey line, and what we need to find is "X" away.

Lost Horse

 

[kanabite]

poorfarm wrote :

kanabite the flies have settled so lets not stir the bucket i think i can say for a lot of us were here to try to figure out these signs and i think some of the comments you make should be left out maybe someone needs to start a ancients thread and sort out pics if its ancient then post there if i want to see a day time soap i ll turn on the tv

if you would perfer i have better things to do than post on this message board . trust me rangler deserves this. if it offends you for someone to say he is leading you around in circles ,then i feel bad for you .
if you would rather not find out for yourself what all might be out there then by all means continue on .
if kenworthy would have written the whole truth of it they would have locked him up in a rubber room.some of the things you folks find threaten beliefs that are long held as "the truth", and i mean big beliefs; historical , religious , and a few others . oooops got to go .

 

[Springfield]

I'm 100 per cent sure that kenworthy did not publish all he knew.

100% is a lot. The reason that you are so sure is ...?

 

[treasurechest]

Casca, those pics are awesome. Thank you for sharing.

 

[heartquest]

Well, I know we are sure learning from all the ideas here....so keep debating please.

This is a photo of one of my favorite interesting rock piles. It is not on the site, but less than a mile down the historical trail. It looks rather like an eagle facing west, and looking back over his shoulder towards the site.

Calvin told me there is much more than what Kenworthy wrote about too. He was just beginning to talk about this when we lost him. :-(
I guess this adventure is ours to grapple with. Things are timed... timing is important.

We're fascinated with the idea of ancients... yes the story this place has to tell feels conflicted and very very old.

 

[Rawhide]

Well, I know we are sure learning from all the ideas here....so keep debating please.

This is a photo of one of my favorite interesting rock piles. It is not on the site, but less than a mile down the historical trail. It looks rather like an eagle facing west, and looking back over his shoulder towards the site.

Calvin told me there is much more than what Kenworthy wrote about too. He was just beginning to talk about this when we lost him. :-(
I guess this adventure is ours to grapple with. Things are timed... timing is important.

We're fascinated with the idea of ancients... yes the story this place has to tell feels conflicted and very very old.

Try taking pictures in late afternoon with the sun behind the mountain and tell me what you see?

 

[heartquest]

Hi Casca,
This shot is actually taken late afternoon... there isn't a way to get the sun behind that mountain at any time of day as it faces south....hmm, maybe I could do that ridge early morning... But I can do a computer sillouette. Are you seeing something? All the ridges west of the site are busy and interesting.

BUT good grief, when I went to look again just now after your reply, I saw a beautiful heart on the breast of this bird! The breast of the bird (if that's what it is) faces west, (sun on it in the late afternoon) the head back over it's shoulder faces east, towards our site. I guess I will have another hike to this thing to see if that heart is really as clear as it appears in the photo.

 

[Rawhide]

Hi Casca,
This shot is actually taken late afternoon... there isn't a way to get the sun behind that mountain at any time of day as it faces south....hmm, maybe I could do that ridge early morning... But I can do a computer sillouette. Are you seeing something? All the ridges west of the site are busy and interesting.

BUT good grief, when I went to look again just now after your reply, I saw a beautiful heart on the breast of this bird! The breast of the bird (if that's what it is) faces west, (sun on it in the late afternoon) the head back over it's shoulder faces east, towards our site. I guess I will have another hike to this thing to see if that heart is really as clear as it appears in the photo.

 

[heartquest]

Casca I saw your reply but no comment attached. Here's where I am seeing that heart. So cool... I have to go back and look in person before I get too excited tho.

 

[Shortstack]

heartquest:
This actually looks like one eagle standing on the shoulders of another eagle.

 

[Old Dog]

Kanabite wrote,

if kenworthy would have written the whole truth of it they would have locked him up in a rubber room.some of the things you folks find threaten beliefs that are long held as "the truth", and i mean big beliefs; historical , religious , and a few others .

I think you are right Bob,
I have some of the same doccuments Chuck had, and many hand written notes by him to friends, (These were left to me after the passing of these friends)
none of which was published but are doccumented by his research. I have tried to put some of this out here and pulled it, as it was ignored. so I am leaving much to the guys to learn form the school of hard knocks, (or a later date, to repost and see how it is recieved) ... we'll see.

 

[Rawhide]

Casca I saw your reply but no comment attached. Here's where I am seeing that heart. So cool... I have to go back and look in person before I get too excited tho.

I think you have more than just a heart on the rocks, but let me explain. That type of monument is usually associated with a area of activity. So look for signs of people in the area first. It being a bird I would look far in the direction it is pointing, no more than 10 miles or so.

I believe you have found a camp ground. A camp for what I dont know I dont have enough info. I would look in a mile radius and see if there is anything else to be found.

Is there any hills or old mines in the area?

 

[Rawhide]

heartquest:
This actually looks like one eagle standing on the shoulders of another eagle.

Thanks for the bigger picture. You have two pointer rocks, at a 90 degree angle or one part of a triangle. You have a priest on the top eagle, and appears to be white granite rocks which is good for minerals. Good luck in that area.

 

[Shortstack]

Casca:
I think the priest is on the left watching over the 2 eagles.




Also, maybe La Rue found an Ancient burial site and that's what was hidden. Maybe even one of the "Giants'" burials with bones.

 

[heartquest]

Casca I saw your reply but no comment attached. Here's where I am seeing that heart. So cool... I have to go back and look in person before I get too excited tho.

I think you have more than just a heart on the rocks, but let me explain. That type of monument is usually associated with a area of activity. So look for signs of people in the area first. It being a bird I would look far in the direction it is pointing, no more than 10 miles or so.

I believe you have found a camp ground. A camp for what I dont know I dont have enough info. I would look in a mile radius and see if there is anything else to be found.

Is there any hills or old mines in the area?

Casca, we are already searching an area one mile east of this bird. It's filled with huge hearts and tomb rocks and other stuff which I posted above. This bird sits on a historical trail which I believe could have been quite a major route at one time. The bird is just under a mile from the site and it is on the same side of the trail. If you proceeded east from this bird, you'd come to a large amphitheater shaped area, and one of the first things you'd see back in it is a giant heart rock which displays like a billboard to the trail. You'd be drawn north into that area and you'd find all sorts of stuff, some of which I have posted above. I am thrilled that just by looking at this bird, you have come to those conclusions. There is written history in our county of the Spanish being here looking for gold. It says they "left no traces". The area is wrong for a mine. It has to be, or have been, a cache. Closeups of what I call "Giant Heart" are posted above... but here is a shot of the west half of the amphitheater we're having fun in... and how the giant heart would show to someone on the old trail... it's like a 9 foot billboard aimed right at the trail. This shot is from the trail, less than a mile east of that bird. The coolest thing we've seen by far on this site is the 7 foot hidden heart in the wash (to the right, off the photo and hidden). That is a beautiful rock...also posted above.