Basic signs and symbols you have found

[wtrdg]

Hello Friends, I am fascinated with this thread so I just registered so I can submit some pics my wife took recently. She tells me these might be signs signifying an ancients' trail. All of these rocks are inside an area no longer than 100 feet. What do y'all think? Interesting? Thanks

 

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[wtrdg]

I put three pics of the snake but they are different views. Also, doubled up on pic 11581. I meant to send this one.

Wtrdg

 

[Shortstack]

wtrdg:
These are some pretty interesting photos with some things that could use closer looks. The problem is that it's so close to a road, that there have probably been people with more cans of spray paint than brains who've put some of their own "decorations" on these rocks and boulders. The profile of the snake's head in this photo gives it the look of a Hog snake (with that pump extention on it's nose) which may not be important, but is an interesting "look".
At first I thought there might be a large cross showing (marked with the yellow box), but it looks more like a post someone put into the ground / rocks to give it that look against the horizontal crack. Take a closer look anyway. LOL
There appears to be the figures "R 1 5 " on that low rock circled on the left. NOW, the more important thing is that large "T" circled on the right. That could be the ONLY mark that's important at this location. It is large and chiseled in high relief. Any numbers and letters you find at this location should be checked closely to see if they were made with cheap Dollar Store spray paint, or scrapped from "Desert Varnish".

 

[wtrdg]

Shortstack, thanks for the reply. This location is fairly remote with electrical highlines running nearby and oil and gas field dirt roads but no evidence of spraypainting or graffiti. The post-looking object is in fact a very old fence post, part of an actual and very old barbed wire fence. We'll be going back in a few days and of course will take a closer look at that T. Do you think the pics 2 and 3 resemble a snake head facing the camera and what is your take in the 2nd pic of the shape of a birds head and wings and the shield or heart in the foreground? We were especially taken with the odd critter with the wide open mouth and closed eye. Waterdog

 

[Shortstack]

wtrdg:
The reason I mentioned people with spray cans is because of the large, white "M" to the upper left of the big "T". That looks like the letter shape used by the M&M candy. LOL

This next photo shows a LOT of letters and such on the snake's forehead and nose in the boxed areas. That circle on the right is marking a hooded face. The face is showing from the upper lip up and a large hood similar to the ones used my Monks (or Friars). That free handed circled area just to the left of the snake's "face" has several figures that look like numbers. I haven't marked every little thing that MIGHT be signs; just enough to get you started. If you've read up on things in this section of the forum, you'll know what that "T" probably means.
You'll need to revisit the area and take more detailed photos. Those oil field roads give easy access to people who enjoy vandalizing everything in sight.

 

[treasurechest]

Javaone! Maybe numbers here!! td

Hi guys, I noticed that there's also a small heart on this. Its just to the left and down from where an eye should be.

 

[Old Dog]

Wtrdg,

Ancient or not.... Great photography!
You guys captured the entire formation in all it's glory.
I would go back to this one just to be sure, Looking at horizontal and vertical surfaces a bit closer.
The Spanish followed ancient stuff closely and if ancient they would have left marks of their own to give others a heads up that they were on it. The Spanish marks would be an awesome way to confirm the ancient.
In 40+ years I have only found a couple ancient sites that didn't have Spanish marks to either compliment or cover up the ancient.

 

[Old Dog]

Welcome Treasurechest !
Always good to see a new person show up.

I always feel a bit honored when a guy spends his very first post on this thread.

 

[treasurechest]

Sorry guys, the picture didn't show up on what I was talking about. Anyways, Hi old dog. I just recently found out about the the Spanish Trail, and all the signs they left behind. I've spent the last four days reading this thread, and I've learned a lot. I'm actually starting to see the things you guys see (sorta).

I don't think the spanish did much around where i live. There's not many gold/silver/copper bearing areas in my part of Riverside county. However, I have a question.

While driving a few days ago, on a backroad I saw a rock with either "R" or "Pi" carved into it. Any thoughts on this?

 

[Pala Y Pico]

Is the conglomerate characteristic of the area? Is it found in other places or only the one? It does seem a rather odd thing just sticking up like that. Maybe it could have been some sort of concretion type structure. Maybe an aerial view might reveal something. Also what is this on the side of the picture?

Ris, there might be other conglamorates in area, these are the only ones I remember seeing, I don`t know. The two that make two corners of possible triangle are shaped, and look out of place. The third corner might be buried( guessing). The two conglamorates are about 40ft, so if the triangle has equal sides the missing corner should be same distance. The more Southern is the smaller, the bigger (bear) Is the North with the Shadow "N". The missing corner I believe is the E or W one.
The southern conglamorate, I just noticed has a face profile on top looking up. I also see possible rifle site on top of both conglamorates.
This two pictures from above(satellite) show my hill as a rabbit. I do not believe this is what rangler said to look for. I just thought I would show them. My "P" can find more rabbits on the white lines to the right of hill. I can also see a possible rabbit within the pheasant. The beak being part of rabbits floppy ear.

rangler said. "The large boulder with the chain, do you think it was covering the cave?"
No, my friends two sons went down opening, and then side ways into cave. The chain is down inside the cave holding boulder that would seal side entrance at bottom of opening. This is what the sons said to their Dad as they were trying to get a sample of left over vein on ceiling of cave. My guess is that a piece of vein was left over as lure to trip trap as they try to get up incline to ceiling.
I am convinced Human activity happened down there.

This is not in CO, its in another state. I am learning to apply what works, at this site. Soon the hunt will continue. Thanks.

 

[wtrdg]

Old Dog thanks for your kind words. I wanted to post in your thread because I enjoy all you teach us. The day we took most of these pics was overcast. We will be going out soon because our weather is clearing and it will make it easier to look at the horizontal and vertical surfaces.

Waterdog

 

[treasurechest]

Hey guys, I went out today looking for s/s. I took a ton of pics and I might have found a couple of things. They're probably just figures of my imagination. I'm new to this, and I don't want to post what are probably useless pictures in a good thread. Is there a thread for beginners in here? I haven't seen one? THank you.

 

[Old Dog]

Hey guys, I went out today looking for s/s. I took a ton of pics and I might have found a couple of things. They're probably just figures of my imagination. I'm new to this, and I don't want to post what are probably useless pictures in a good thread. Is there a thread for beginners in here? I haven't seen one? THank you.

This is as close to a beginner's thread as you'll get.
Even though some real "Old Pros" come in and comment from time to time, the ones who come to learn and share are the ones who keep this thread going. Feel free to post as you will...
If I don't know the answer I'll say so... but I'm betting I might know someone who does. LOL
Together we have solved a lot of problems.

 

[Old Dog]

It probably won't last too long but I'll start the new page.
Just because I can. Doesn't happen too often!

Post 2,200!!
some of us thought this thread would die a sorry slow death early on.
It is a fun one though and continues to be a great source of interest.
I'm glad it's still going.

 

[hadji009]

i have a feeling that as long as this site is up and running this thread will be up and running! brent

 

[Old Dog]

What a great thought.

Thanks Brent.

 

[dsty]

Hello Thom, hope everything is going well, I have always thought that your site would endure because of the information you share, the honesty, Thom theres lots of carvings about and there's a simple thought, don't make things harder than necessary, If a person has a profile carving thats of a bear, trail goes both ways and look on the side of a hill, if its a head, one direction, something sticking out of the ground, nearby, triangle of carvings, symbols, to show you how the direction / distance ,is layed out on the triangle that you must find, rabbit, top of the hill, fish, spring / creek. It took me a long time to start using that knot on my shoulder for something other than a hat rack. Hope everything is well with you and your memories are good ones.

 

[Ground0]

I'd like to chime in here as well.

Many thanks to Old Dog for this very informative thread...truly a wealth of information and entertaining as well! This Treasure Hunting hobby thing can certainly be addicting and absorbing, but to me, the true treasure is learning all the real history that is inexorably affixed to the tales and lore that draw us to it.

Fascinating, to say the least! Thanks again and I'll be contributing more to this thread as soon as I have something worthy of posting.

Dewey

 

[desertmoons]

wrtdg,
Nice pics. My first impression was two way trailmarker. It had been used by Natives for that or other purposes and possibly Spanish too..

The rock out front seems to be modified. There seems to be a couple of white eyes. A close pic different angles and lighting might reveal more and perhaps even some letters and numbers. There might be a pecked trail on that too. All those mights and seems and could be's boil down to getting a closer pic different angles and lighting to see if anything is there on that head.




There might be some carving at the arrow. And that might be a drill hole if it is not black lichen.



I take it gently rolling flat land....in general in that area? I mean the way the trails would go..perhaps with outcroppings and bluffs along the way?

 

[Old Dog]

Good eye on the drill hole Kim!

I suggest putting a stick in the hole and seeing where it points. It may give some new instructions.