A Majority of Americans Do Not Want to Defund ACA

[Dave44]

Dave44:

Do the research. The facts are out there.

Since you immediately dismiss or ignore or attempt to deflect the many links I've already posted here on TN - to what purpose would I do that again?

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

MY research tells me that is close to a pivotal time in American history where black America was struggling AGAIN to reach freedom and equality. Do you think your beautiful fallacy included them?

 

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[Dave44]

Dave44:

Do the research. The facts are out there.

Since you immediately dismiss or ignore or attempt to deflect the many links I've already posted here on TN - to what purpose would I do that again?

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

Sorry Booky,, it is simply because they are so full of erroneous information, it is hard to put them in logical order?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Dave44:

Erroneous information - like you and Chad claiming Tesla was given TARP funds, isn't an American company and hasn't created any jobs?

There are plenty more here.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

 

[Dave44]

How about something pertaining to this thread,, I can discredit you on the other later.(oh yea, I already did! lol)

Let us start here.. For your benefit. Who was the President in 1916?

 

[Dave44]

Don't know Well it was Woodrow Wilson.. Hero of the Lefty Leftists.

Now I will let you do a little more research. I know there is an infinite amount of things to look at now so it will be hard to find the absolute best Progressive argument. I am sure your sources are there for you though.

Good Luck??

 

[Edward1976]

Of course we don't want to be like those heathen Europeans with their free medical care and college, oh no sir! We Americans want to SUFFER!

 

[Dave44]

Of course we don't want to be like those heathen Europeans with their free medical care and college, oh no sir! We Americans want to SUFFER!

Oh but it should only be the best! At least for the chosen few! Which was also the mantra back in 1916! And... Oh that great class system in Europe! mmmm MMM mmm.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

Of course we don't want to be like those heathen Europeans with their free medical care and college, oh no sir! We Americans want to SUFFER!

Yeah..and their broken budgets, and 20% unemployment. No,. I wouldn't want to be like them.
Jim

 

[Dave44]

Dave44:

Erroneous information - like you and Chad claiming Tesla was given TARP funds, isn't an American company and hasn't created any jobs?

There are plenty more here.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

YES erroneous.. One of the best chances at equal healthcare you say in 1916? Before even penicillin? And in your "opinion" it would have been better than grits and eggs? Who would have instituted or brought it up?

The DEMOCRAT hero President of the time made news by watching "the birth of a nation"( no caps intended). He also re instituted segregation in the armed services and government. As is usually the case the Democrat party is on the wrong side of history, But you think they would have made an exception for healthcare at that exact place in history?

Your historical relativity should never,, ever, be brought up again.

Want something to chew on?
PBS - American Experience: Woodrow Wilson | Wilson- A Portrait
"When Wilson allowed his cabinet members to segregate government offices, Trotter led the delegation from the National Independent Political League to meet with the president and protest this discriminatory policy. Wilson's explanation, that "segregation was caused by friction between the colored and white clerks, and not done to injure or humiliate the colored clerks, but to avoid friction," infuriated Trotter. After the shouting match that followed, Trotter was ordered out of the White House. Trotter then did what Wilson considered unforgivable. Standing on the White House grounds, he held a press conference and detailed what had just happened. A Wilson supporter in 1912, Du Bois now sided with Trotter. In Du Bois' view, Wilson "was by birth . . . unfitted for largesse of view or depth of feeling about racial injustice."

 

[Edward1976]

If Europeans are so bad, why do they live longer than us? Why is their quality of life always higher than ours? Why are they more educated than us? Why do they not have daily school massacres? Why does the 20% unemployment include 12% retired people and senior citizens? Waiting.

 

[Dave44]

You brought the European argument here where it has no bearing, no need to yell at us. The stats you post are suspect, but you should start another thread to discuss them. Right now Bookyroo is going to tell us how a corrupt and racist Democrat administration was going to bring us an equatable healthcare policy when leaches and bleeding was the best science available.

As you said though... Waiting

 

[Edward1976]

Dave, if they're suspect, please feel free to bust me. From one Virginian (Fan District, Richmond) to another, Edward

 

[Dave44]

Dave, if they're suspect, please feel free to bust me. From one Virginian (Fan District, Richmond) to another, Edward

Funny flag they wear in the fan,, haven't seen that there. But, you are simply trying to change the subject. Start a new thread and defend your premise there if you can. Let Booky try to defend his weird tenets as he started them here.

 

[Edward1976]

I knew you couldn't handle the heat bro, sad you have to grasp at the "your flag is different, you're bad" ploy, it's all you got it seems. In other news, we'll see about Bookaroo, I'm sure he'll set you straight. Again. E p.s. Your Thomas Paine was British, lest you forget. And what's with this "I hate taxes" stance? Who pays for roads, schools, fire stations again?

 

[Dave44]

I knew you couldn't handle the heat bro, sad you have to grasp at the "your flag is different, you're bad" ploy, it's all you got it seems. In other news, we'll see about Bookaroo, I'm sure he'll set you straight. Again. E

Did I post that? Well.. no. If you feel the need to bite at my ankles and then hope your "hero" will set me straight maybe you can't yet run with the big dogs.. scurry on, Bro.

 

[Mad Machinist]

If Europeans are so bad, why do they live longer than us? Why is their quality of life always higher than ours? Why are they more educated than us? Why do they not have daily school massacres? Why does the 20% unemployment include 12% retired people and senior citizens? Waiting.

Let's see, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Spain, and a few others on the verge of total collapse. YEA, I really want to be like them.

Quality of life is subject to the discretion of the writer. My quality of life is much higher than all but the richest Europeans. According to you, there are no ghettos in Europe. Hell, it's predicted that 24,000 people will freeze to death in Britain alone this year. How many will die in the rest of Europe?

More educated is a toss up. It all depends on who you talk to.

Guess if the school massacres aren't on MSNBC they didn't happen. And the don't happen daily here either. It's just the lamestream media creating the persona that the are happening. After all, one cannot rule through fear if the populace isn't afraid of some make believe boogeyman. Think guns are bad then maybe you should think about the millions who have been killed in Africa with machetes.

Kinda funny that all I read about Europe's unemployment rate, nothing is ever said about a 12% retiree rate. But a lot is said about the unemployment rate among young people approaching 50%. Guess that kinda happens when your guaranteed employment for life even if your an unproductive and lazy because you think your "ENTITLED" to a living.

Wonder if this is why a lot of European car manufacturers are looking a moving here?

 

[Edward1976]

Again, I ask you to bust me. Again, for example, why do Europeans live longer than we do? This has nothing to do with car manufacturers. Where are they moving to? Name me a place please. Again when was the last school massacre in Europe? When did I say there are no ghettos in Europe? Where did you get that 24,000 people will die of cold in Britain this winter? Where did you get that 50% of young people are unemployed in Europe? "Guess that kinda happens when your guaranteed employment for life even if your an unproductive and lazy because you think your "ENTITLED" to a living" So a retired person should die or ive on the streets because they can't work? Waiting. This should be good! Also, your boy Tesla, wasn't he Serbian? The same people who killed 130,000+ people because of religion in the 1990s?

 

[Mad Machinist]

Again, I ask you to bust me. Again, for example, why do Europeans live longer than we do? This has nothing to do with car manufacturers. Where are they moving to? Name me a place please. Again when was the last school massacre in Europe? When did I say there are no ghettos in Europe? Where did you get that 24,000 people will die of cold in Britain this winter? Where did you get that 50% of young people are unemployed in Europe? "Guess that kinda happens when your guaranteed employment for life even if your an unproductive and lazy because you think your "ENTITLED" to a living" So a retired person should die or ive on the streets because they can't work? Waiting. This should be good! Also, your boy Tesla, wasn't he Serbian? The same people who killed 130,000+ people because of religion in the 1990s?

You asked for it, so let's go to school.

Why do they live longer? The quality of food, PERIOD. I seem to remember when I was IN Europe a lot of Farmer's Markets where I could buy fresh produce all the time. Try that here is about 98% of this country and you have the EPA, FDA, IRS, and a whole lot of other alphabet soup agencies wanting to give you a body cavity search.

On the automotive thing: Charleston Regional Business Journal | Charleston, SC

The school "massacre " thing:, kinda funny you want to use that. maybe you need to read a little more, Junior. Top 10 Worst School Massacres - Listverse
Kinda sad the area you most want to be like has had some of the worst school massacres in history.

The ghetto thing comes from you saying the Europeans have a much higher standard of living than we do. Guess when your a liberal nut espousing how great Europe is, the European ghettos don't matter, only the ghettos here matter.

The 24,000 thing: Fuel poverty Britain: 24k will die this winter due to rising energy prices | Mail Online
It gets tough when you have to make a choice between eating and staying arm. Give you a little secret about surviving cold, the colder it is, the more FAT calories you need to eat to survive the cold weather.

Don't try and twist the retirement thing. I NEVER said a RETIERD person should die or live in the street. They EARNED their right to be supported. Much like Social Security in this country was supposed to be. YOU want to blame somebody for the collapse of SS, blame Lyndon B. Johnson, a democrat, who put that money in the General Fund to support the Vietnam War and his social engineering programs. I leave it up to YOU to prove me wrong IF you can.

And about Tesla being Serbian, if that is the best you got, don't even try.

 

[Mad Machinist]

This should be good! QUOTE]

Where you at now, little one?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Again, I ask you to bust me. Again, for example, why do Europeans live longer than we do? This has nothing to do with car manufacturers. Where are they moving to? Name me a place please. Again when was the last school massacre in Europe? When did I say there are no ghettos in Europe? Where did you get that 24,000 people will die of cold in Britain this winter? Where did you get that 50% of young people are unemployed in Europe? "Guess that kinda happens when your guaranteed employment for life even if your an unproductive and lazy because you think your "ENTITLED" to a living" So a retired person should die or ive on the streets because they can't work? Waiting. This should be good! Also, your boy Tesla, wasn't he Serbian? The same people who killed 130,000+ people because of religion in the 1990s?

Why do Europeans live longer. Food they eat.. Americans need to stop eating so much fast foods and eat more fresh vegetables.

"More than two thirds of United States citizens are overweight – 33% being obese.32% of children are either obese or overweight.

43% of Americans are projected to be obese in 10 years.After smoking, obesity is America’s biggest cause of premature death and is linked to 70% of heart disease and 80% of diabetes cases and 41% of Americans are projected to get cancer."

http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/20...s-with-ingredients-banned-in-other-countries/

Last school massacre in Europe.

March 19 2012. 23 year old Islamist terrorist and antisemitic Mohammed Merah opened fire at a Jewish day school, killing three school children and a teacher. The incident was the last of three terrorist attacks against French soldiers and Jewish civilians, occurring in an eight-day span. The shooter was later shot and killed by police after a massive three-day manhunt and a 30-hour standoff at his home.

Where does the 24,000 died of cold come from?

How about from the horses mouth.

24000 died in winter of 2012 because of because of cold due to high heating bills. This year us feared to be higher..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...grow-figure-higher-year-spiralling-bills.html

High unemployment in Europe.

Current unemployment rate in countries using Euro is 12.2%

"The unemployment rate is an especially critical economic indicator in Europe. Years of austerity and joblessness have fed radical political parties and strained democracy throughout the euro zone."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/b...rate-in-europe-stays-at-record-12-2.html?_r=0

Busted......










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