I found an absurd answer, like this story, for how Wagoner survived in the cold nights. He had a thermal ointment brought from an old Viking wizard. He would oil himself with that ointment and fall asleep naked.
One thing I miss from Pennsylvania, is large trees. There are none here. It doesn't rain enough for a tree to get large. Only at springs are there large trees and there aren't enough to sustain centuries of outdoor fires from natives, ranchers, miners....and hikers.
Barry Storm wrote Wagoner would go for three days, nobody else. Knowing where the mine is, I would say how someone could make the round trip in one day.The whole "circle" thing is getting me dizzy, Markmar.
I think we can safely say, the Wagoner as tough as he might have been - he would never of survived in the Winter out there with little to no gear, like we use today - let alone what they used back then. Yes, most of the year - probably wouldn't be an issue for the old guy to spend a night or so out there, but Cizimloony really does make the good point, of thinking that a guy with health issues (breathing issues) - to be able to get out there in the Winter and STAY out there for any length of time (more than a day), just doesn't make sense.
Don't throw out 'common sense' with the bathwater when it comes to looking at these old stories. We can all research all day long, but one still shouldn't leave out the simplest stance of common sense in the end. Just saying....
-SpartanOC
I didn't mean fir or oaks as a thick wood. I mentioned it after in a paranthesis. But you maybe lost that post, can't understood or do it in purpose to ignore.
You know, when I said I was going to go out there everyone was supportive, except 1 person.
Markmar,
The bigger BS I read in my life. I'm sure your eyes are brown. You can go everywhere you want, because i don't give a s&it, I'm envy only because you have a GOpro and I haven't one, to record all the hounds out there, when my doctors gime their assent to get out my house. Round and round like a hound (quatro). You have to learn to accept answers to your provocations, lil city boy.
Don't answer, is a trap!
I'm not sure THAT map (Julia's) is even a legit map. From what I've been told - that's a bogus one and leads to nothing....
A bogus map? NO WAY! lol
Well, from what little I know about Treasure symbols, Garret states as followed (see insert) - see bottom right for symbol.
The sun symbol doubles as a symbol for God, and gold too. Im not sure Julia would have been versed in that though....
She wouldn't have known....
Right and agreed. Why would Julia have this symbol on her map? What would it mean to her?
Im not trying to steer this to the Waltz story. My apologies. I was looking into Whiskey Springs in relation to the Wagoner, and just happened to notice (its a few pages away in the Swanson book) this spot on her map in the same general area.
