Video 4 - The Peralta Stone Maps with Frank Augustine

[roadrunner]

Ryan, since you and I where talking about the exif data.
When I right click on the image,what do I click on, inspect elemant, or view image info, and what am I looking for.
I only have those 2 choices. I am using firefox as browser.

 

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[RG1976]

Try this website after saving the photos to your desktop. You will need to upload each one to see the unique locations

Exifdata.com

Let me know if you need help.

 

[Old]

I will see where the articles would be at if they are close to where I work possibly I can.
I cant find a physical address yet.I will keep looking or call around on Monday

Much appreciated Roadrunner,

Best I can determine the ONLY source for full copies of the Phoenix Gazette is:

Arizona State University, Hayden Library. 1510 University Blvd, Tucson, AZ. Year dates available are 1880-1996, Call No. = Micro-Film, Location = Main Micro.

Appears to be lots of sources for later issues but not as far back as we need. Library of Congress doesn't even have this collection.

 

[roadrunner]

Thanks Ryan.will do,

old, I live in the East valley,cant help,I never go to Tuscon.

 

[Klems]

Ryan and Frank, thank you for taking the time to produce another great video. I am very interested to see what else you find, uncover and explore. Frank especially, great commentary and research work into the archives. That part is often missed.

 

[sgtfda]

Ryan and Frank, thank you for taking the time to produce another great video. I am very interested to see what else you find, uncover and explore. Frank especially, great commentary and research work into the archives. That part is often missed.

Thank you!

 

[cw0909]

if im reading this correctly, i dont think the stone for the stone maps
came from the QC-florence area

pg 14
UNIT DESCRIPTIONSFOR THE FLORENCE JUNCTION AND SOUTHERN PORTIONOF
THE WEAVERS NEEDLE 7.5' QUADRANGLES
ARIZONA GEOLOGICAL SURVEYOPEN-FILE REPORT 95-10(revised May, 1996)

last pg
Figure 6. Stratigraphic correlation diagram
http://repository.azgs.az.gov/sites/default/files/dlio/files/2010/u14/OFR_95_10_Florence_Jct.pdf

 

[captain1965]

Me Too Cubfan. The earliest on-line archive for the Phoenix Gazette is 1965. No help there. Its going to take someone physically going to where these newspaper records are archived and rolling film for 1880 and 1881 and the later article in 1930s to find. That's assuming an article does exist. Any locals interested in taking on this job? I'll pay a reasonable fee if someone has research credentials.

I didn't post who "supposedly" has copies of this. If I told you guys, your head would explode. I know mine did <g>.

Lynda

I will pitch in.

 

[Hal Croves]

I will pitch in.

captian1965
When you find it, it will be interesting to compare stories.
Grijavla, the Mexican solider/treasure hider is on the right but, it may not be the same man.

 

[Azquester]

Good evening Ryan,

I was out today it looks like you were out yesterday we must have just missed each other.
Went with some help today both my Grandsons they were a good help.
Found an old cowboy coffee pot about seventy five feet from the north grave looks to be dated around the time of Travis Tumlinson's access could be his coffee pot. Found some old military issue shells both a 50-70 and a 12 gauge shells dates the site old with a military post nearby most likely Buffalo Soldiers. They were stationed near all mines back then. Also found the most amazing sets of women's shoes I've ever seen!

I don't know if old Travis was a time traveler or not but his wife was petite and wore black leather Levis with platform shoes!

We went down below the mesa into Queen Creek and if you've never been there you wouldn't have run into two of the most ill tempered old Hoot Owls that I've ran into in my searches!

One thing I can say about it out there is each time I'm there I'm being watched. This time it was a guy in a white SUV with a black hat, shirt and camera. Could have been the Black Legion. I have him on film this time. I located the fence hole Travis used in 1949 and could see the ground right along the fence line was broken up like someone dug something there long ago.

That is if you believe the first map and the other maps were indeed found there in those fictional graves. Like that photo Somehiker posted showing a white tent grave side service in 1939 at one of the holes. Could if be someone planted those maps in 1939?

It looks like a white tent or was this a family burial plot or earlier graves of Buffalo Soldiers moved when the highway went through?

Could it be an old Cemetery?




If that's just not true then what Maps would be in both Graves when he said he found three of them in one hole?

I have some photo's I can post later.


Broken Fence and the Black Legion

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Golden Fleece Hal Told me I would find

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Boogie Boots for Ailleen
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Right out of Africa! Special Pony!
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Black Leather Pants worn by the Boogie Girls during Boogie Fever!
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More Boogie Boots!
Pee Wee's Big Adventure was filmed here!

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Stone Maps Practice Site
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[Hal Croves]

Good evening Ryan,

I was out today it looks like you were out yesterday we must have just missed each other.
Went with some help today both my Grandsons they were a good help.
Found an old cowboy coffee pot about seventy five feet from the north grave looks to be dated around the time of Travis Tumlinson's access could be his coffee pot. Found some old military issue shells both a 50-70 and a 12 gauge shells dates the site old with a military post nearby most likely Buffalo Soldiers. They were stationed near all mines back then. Also found the most amazing sets of women's shoes I've ever seen!

I don't know if old Travis was a time traveler or not but his wife was petite and wore black leather Levis with platform shoes!

We went down below the mesa into Queen Creek and if you've never been there you wouldn't have run into two of the most ill tempered old Hoot Owls that I've ran into in my searches!

One thing I can say about it out there is each time I'm there I'm being watched. This time it was a guy in a white SUV with a black hat, shirt and camera. Could have been the Black Legion. I have him on film this time. I located the fence hole Travis used in 1949 and could see the ground right along the fence line was broken up like someone dug something there long ago.

That is if you believe the first map and the other maps were indeed found there in those fictional graves. Like that photo Somehiker posted showing a white tent grave side service in 1939 at one of the holes. Could if be someone planted those maps in 1939?

It looks like a white tent or was this a family burial plot or earlier graves of Buffalo Soldiers moved when the highway went through?

Could it be an old Cemetery?




If that's just not true then what Maps would be in both Graves when he said he found three of them in one hole?

I have some photo's I can post later.


Broken Fence and the Black Legion

View attachment 1172413



Golden Fleece Hal Told me I would find

View attachment 1172415


Boogie Boots for Ailleen
View attachment 1172414



Right out of Africa! Special Pony!
View attachment 1172417




Black Leather Pants worn by the Boogie Girls during Boogie Fever!
View attachment 1172419




More Boogie Boots!
Pee Wee's Big Adventure was filmed here!

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Stone Maps Practice Site
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Bill, I feel as if I have been fleeced.
That special pony is actual proof that the Hohokam maintained a small collection of pink giraffes.
Great find!

 

[RG1976]

So weird that you are getting followed / spied on. I've been there 5x now - and not once have I ever seen anyone.

I did find it odd that there are a lot of female clothes out there - there are also a few suitcases. A laptop bag - some women's "undergarments" / combs / makeup.

Def didn't see the pony though - that was a first!

I've pretty much wrapped up with that site - but keep looking around and let us know what you find!

 

[sdcfia]

Sounds like the eclectic collections you find at undocumented alien way-stops. Any water bottles?

 

[RG1976]

Never saw any water bottles - or bottles of any sort.

 

[Azquester]

Thanks Ryan!

I ran this new photo I took out there by some folk before I posted it. Didn't want anyone to be upset I found it. But if you believe those grave like holes have anything at all to do with the Stones I have an exciting find.

I expanded the search area beyond the normally known locations and went on an extended hike while metal detecting.

I became lost and disoriented out there and was trapped in a huge grove of Cholla Cactus. While I was attempting an extraction of myself from this dilemma I stumbled upon an untouched unexcavated grave hole!

This is no joke.

I dug around the first two excavated grave like holes to see what had been on the top of the holes when filled or basically what they looked like after the burial. It was the broken up pieces of the bedrock that had been left on top of these holes.

So with that picture in my head I went off metal detecting never giving it another thought until I stumbled on to this.

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Exact same size as the other holes.

It even has a head stone. I was told to dig it and film it.

What do you think?

So weird that you are getting followed / spied on. I've been there 5x now - and not once have I ever seen anyone.

I did find it odd that there are a lot of female clothes out there - there are also a few suitcases. A laptop bag - some women's "undergarments" / combs / makeup.

Def didn't see the pony though - that was a first!

I've pretty much wrapped up with that site - but keep looking around and let us know what you find!

 

[Azquester]

No water bottles I thought the same thing but it looks more like an old illegal dump site for trash.

Sounds like the eclectic collections you find at undocumented alien way-stops. Any water bottles?

 

[Hal Croves]

Thanks Ryan!

I ran this new photo I took out there by some folk before I posted it. Didn't want anyone to be upset I found it. But if you believe those grave like holes have anything at all to do with the Stones I have an exciting find.

I expanded the search area beyond the normally known locations and went on an extended hike while metal detecting.

I became lost and disoriented out there and was trapped in a huge grove of Cholla Cactus. While I was attempting an extraction of myself from this dilemma I stumbled upon an untouched unexcavated grave hole!

This is no joke.

I dug around the first two excavated grave like holes to see what had been on the top of the holes when filled or basically what they looked like after the burial. It was the broken up pieces of the bedrock that had been left on top of these holes.

So with that picture in my head I went off metal detecting never giving it another thought until I stumbled on to this.

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Exact same size as the other holes.

It even has a head stone. I was told to dig it and film it.

What do you think?

Bill, I don't think that you would look good in pink stripes. Document the location and report it. I don't believe that they offer access to TNet in county.

Nice find.

 

[Azquester]

Hal,

I don't honestly think this is a grave.
But the garments would match my newly acquired Pink Pony. If it was on federal land now they treat you right down there free movie theater, gymnasium, computers with high speed internet, oh ya, if it was federal It would be much nicer. County?

No WAY!

Sheriff Joe would have me in pink panties digging the latrines just to drive home his point don't dig with out a permit!

Bill, I don't think that you would look good in pink stripes. Document the location and report it. I don't believe that they offer access to TNet in county.

Nice find.

 

[Hal Croves]

Hal,

I don't honestly think this is a grave.
But the garments would match my newly acquired Pink Pony. If it was on federal land now they treat you right down there free movie theater, gymnasium, computers with high speed internet, oh ya, if it was federal It would be much nicer. County?

No WAY!

Sheriff Joe would have me in pink panties digging the latrines just to drive home his point don't dig with out a permit!

I am considering self incarceration there if retirement doesn't pan out.

Bill, I am looking for a decent online map of Phoenix from 1875 - 1880. Any ideas?

 

[RG1976]

Hey nice one Bill!!

I didn't see that site - sounds like you're the first!

And just for the record - you post any find you come across - never think you need permission or will piss anyone off.