12-1-11
Hello Joe, Oro Blanco, Mike and Don Jose de La Mancha
I want you all to know that I appreciate what you have done and what you are doing, putting aside our differences. One little thing, before I answer different questions and correct different statements. It’s hard not to be blinded by our appetite when we are searching for treasures and gold, (pointing the finger at someone else I would have 3 pointing back at me.) A key and an example of this is, in all of the write-ups on Adam’s Diggings, I have not seen (it may be out there but I have not seen it) that one of that group by the name of John Brewer with a few others went for supplies and got almost back to their place with the supplies before they were attacked by the Apaches, this guy escaped the Apache massacre, who had the knowledge to go buy supplies and get back to the place where they were getting gold, he would absolutely have known where he had bought supplies from and therefor would have been able to re-find the place a third time and get the gold they had stashed at the fireplace.
Those that follow his trail will have a better chance at finding the source of their gold. He was bumped into by the Little Colorado River either coming or going from the place of gold. That common sense is not too common anymore when we are blinded by gold and cannot analyze the bigger picture. As I said before they were digging out of the stream that was below the mines of the Molino Document or Tayopa Mines, which was the place where the Fugitive so-called Dutchman helped hide up mines. The rock foundation of a house that the so-called Dutchman talks about as what is left of a fireplace in it, is what is left of the log cabin, that Adam’s Diggers made on top of those rocks, that was burnt to the ground, and less than 50 feet to the south of what is left of that cabin you can see a rock corral. I found a number of broken pieces of kitchenware and a small iron arrowhead; all artifacts were of that era and time period. In that canyon on the west side you can see the most logical place where they could have climbed in, which makes a Z shaped path. In that canyon both on the west and the east end it is boxed in. There is a sealed entrance in the hillside not very far from there; it is in the area where the Molino Document identifies the Temple.
In a number of records I have both from Indian sources, and those that were blindfolded and others that the Indians trusted, it opens up into a large underground temple complex, that goes back many thousands of years, and the Molino Document identifies it as having an ancient library. Isaiah 29 talks about this place, not its copycat place in the Middle East, as becoming a fruitful field that would be esteemed as a forest and talks about a marvelous work and a wonder, it also mentions in that day we would hear the words of the book and in essence see out of the blindness that we are in today. Based on the accounts I have of those that were in it before it was closed future writers will write about it as one of the marvels of the ancient world.
Until there is enough open minded archeologists that aren’t from the schools of incompleteness of altered history and those that are influenced by such, the place needs to remain closed. The Indians sure worked hard to keep it out of the hands of those that had a perverted history of the Bible or the records of the ancients. One of the first padres that entered Mexico gives an account where he was told by an Indian that they the Indians had the same history that we did in our Bible and that the older part of our Biblical history took place here in the Americas not the Middle East. I will guarantee you that if you learn the ancient history of America and the Indian history well, then you will know that what the Indian told the Padre is correct. I have taken dozens of people of different faiths on tours and I don’t know of one, of the dozens that I have taken, that completed the tour that aren’t believers in what the Indian said to the Padre about Biblical history.
There is the leader of one religious group that is preaching what I have taught him and I don’t see anyone uprooting his take on Biblical history, based on the foundation of what I have personally showed him. He and others, more every day, are recognizing the handwriting on the wall when it comes to Isaiah 29.
Oro Blanco you answer me out of context on my statement on Josephus, I was replying to a previous statement, his statement that Eden means Red Earth was correct. The four rivers of Genesis all come out of the red land area. There are a number of other things I disagree with Josephus on. I couldn’t agree with you more on your comments that the Tarshish of the Bible never was in Asia Minor nor was it in New Asia or that part of the world. With the exception of what Alexander the Great called New Troy where the Trojans (Israelites) created a base representing their capitol Troy in the center of first Jerusalem. The original Trojans neighbors were the Tarshish who may have also had a base there in Turkey for a while before the Trojan War, and Josephus could have been confused as many are today between the area of First Troy and the New Troy of Turkey.
As far as your scholarly titles are concerned I may have misunderstood what was being applied back there at that time, but I still consider you are trying to blanket me with your knowledge, which is out of context with the bigger picture of the reality I am familiar with. When you learn to read the Paleo-Hebrew of the southwest you will be able to walk to some of the richest mines and treasures sites of the globe.
I will post some charts of some of those that used a similar Paleo-Hebrew Alphabet. In front of the bust on the picture I sent of the north, that you referred to, in front of that bust is the head of a Coyote, the Hopis Navajos and others to the Greeks refer to the place of that dog head. The Greeks refer to 2 other dog heads in that area that come out of one body or place, but the natives from one end of America to the other including the Egyptians refer to the other two heads as the Twins, the Mighty Twins etc. they refer to them in all kinds of ways. Next to the twins but closer to the Coyote is the hard rock Kiva of Spider Woman, the east entrance to the underworld. This Coyote is known as the trickster, all those that pass by him are fooled never dreaming that his body helps hide the Underworld, one of the greatest works of man’s achievements. These twins are what the last part of the name Mizraim represents.
I never said that the Egyptians were not what the Hebrews called Mizraims. I think I clearly said that those Mizraims in what we call Egypt today were the descendants of the original Mizraims that lived here, that Moses dealt with in the Western United States. In some of the accounts about old records, these Mizraims were identified as the Wolf, the Jackal or the Coyote, and a lot of those that were outside of Israel identified Moses and the Israelites as the Rabbits. That is why you have the rabbit story with story of Easter, which is a Gentile version of the Passover. The colored egg represents the birth of their kingdom in a colored country. When you follow the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet across the southwest whether you want to call it Greek, Moabite, Phoenician or whatever, the stories talk about the places and things of where the Israelites lived and what they did, and I am posting the Paleo-Hebrew Writing on the Ten Commandments found at Lunas New Mexico. Whether you want to get the story of Moses being placed in the basket from Babylon or Egypt it takes you to the place of the first Nile River in the Western United States, the Egyptians in so-called north Africa called the river there the River of Egypt which gave them their name.
The world through false traditions from the Dark Ages due to things being hid from the ignorant, a lot of false assumptions have been made in their interpretation of history, as you show Josephus was already starting to do. As long as anyone builds on these types of preconceived ideas they will never understand the missing gaps of history and they will want to believe that the Israelites that ended up in the Middle East borrowed their stories from the Babylonians and others. When they properly evaluate the written history in America they will recognize that some of their assumptions are upside down and for the bigger part the rest of the world borrowed from Israel, including the Greeks that were part Israelite, they are a cross between the Philistines and some Israelites and others, whose homeland was the Americas. Some of the oldest cultures in America and Egypt in the video that is narrated by Charleston Hesston called Forbidden Archeology (you can find it on Youtube, just click on the one that is the full video) stems from the ancestors of Adam and Abraham those ancestors were of the race of the original Atlanteans.
Adam was the first man of a race called Man that was started by the Elohim or the Atlantean Priests of that Serpent (messenger) race who instructed Eve to get Adam to partake of the Tree of Forbidden Fruit, Eve who was of his flesh and bones took him for a husband. This Atlantean Priest was attempting to create a super race through inbreeding as many cattle breeders are doing around the world today. The name Elohim ends the same as the name Mizraim, which was a place where Adam lived when he first left the Garden of Eden. These Twins destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone; they likewise played a role in the destruction of Atlantis when it sunk in an inland shallow sea in the Western part of the United States, which is the center of the oldest civilization that is generally known to man (even if they don’t know where it is at). The temple that the Molino Document talks about is an underground temple complex that goes back to the descendants of those that escaped the destruction of Atlantis. When you find the island of the Aztecs homeland you have found the island of Atlantis and below it you will find 3,000 chambers, which are a marvelous work and a wonder, which will be a part of what will eventually be fulfilled of Isaiah 29.
The keys that led me to certain discoveries came from properly understanding the language of our Bible and recognizing some of the same stories across America. These pre-Columbian stories across America take you to the correct place and mines where the old world history camouflages and hides them. Oro Blanco I was trying to let you know that by having knowledge of pre-Columbian places with their original names, you did not need to be misled by red herring or copycat name places, which is why no one has found the Dutchman mine at the wrong Salt River and the wrong Superstitious Mountains. I think that may have been a threat to you and others and believe that you tried to blanket me with incomplete knowledge based on your past experience and preconceived ideas, which is ok I may have done worse in the same circumstances. I am capable of defending my turf until I have a chance to look at the bigger picture. You have a lot of good knowledge, if you will use it with the rest of the story, you will see many lights turn on; otherwise you are likely to throw out the true history of the Bible and ancient America. I was once ready to throw out the Bible as a correct history, as a lot scholars of today have done.
For the record I do not buy the Roman and Dark Age magical slant that has been placed on the Bible (I would rather be a greedy treasure hunter than buy into such nonsense), nor do I believe in some of the other corruption where the Bible has been mistranslated such as the globe being created in 6 days or 6,000 years. I challenge anyone to show me where such nonsense was ever taught in the Old Testament. The area that was called earth at that time was referring only to a lake bottom in an area that was raised up and became mostly dry, which was shaped by that which is eternal in nature or Yahweh when a volcano there erupted and came to rest after seven eruptions that created light and darkness, and a long time later someone called the light and darkness day and night. This original light and darkness that volcano created was over a period of many millions of years, the seven flows of that volcano the Book of Revelation refers to them as seven seals, and below the seventh seal or lava flow you have the place where Jeremiah hid some of the treasures of Israel. Believe me there are plenty of Christian and Israel records that will yet come forth. The Christians and Israelites most important documents were duplicated and placed in the heart of the earth and the heart of heaven, where Christ told the people of America to store their treasures. The Mayan history in the Popol Vuh identifies these 2 places.
Nor do I buy the narrow tunnel vision that is placed on the meaning of heaven. The heavens could be volcanoes or anything else that was raised or heaved up, the heavens of heavens were mountains which raised up with volcanos rising out of them, some people in Bible days lived in heaven or the raised up mountains. Just because the stars rise across the sky and we have heavens above, doesn’t mean that was the particular heaven that the Christians were going to be caught up in, or where the New Jerusalem was going to be stepping down out of heaven. True religion or history does not conflict with true science.
I could not find the Eden of Biblical history, until a man who was raised by the Indians who wrote a book called the Rocks Begin to Speak, his name was Lavan Martineau, stopped by my place and asked permission to cross my property and look at petroglyphs that were in my backyard that the neighbors had told him about. I was quite surprised by the visit (I had previously purchased his book and was over halfway through it) I told him it was fine for him to enter my property if he did not mind me tagging along. I had never went up to them cliffs that were in my backyard, for I had never considered the red land in my backyard to tie in with the original Eden, when I was looking all over the world for the four rivers coming out of the red land as Josephus’s and the Aztecs records describe. There on the rock was the written account where a large flat rock slid off the hillside over the sleeping place where Adam and Eve were, which entombed them for 3 days until they got out and where they went back under that shelter from time to time and where Eve gave birth to 3 sons and 2 daughters, and that account is written there as it stated in the Forgotten Books of Eden, accounts used by the earlier Christians.
Another account that is in the pseud-epigraphic of the Old Testament says that Cain went down and ate the young cane grass, where wild cane got its name from, and there is wild cane still growing there to this day. When I traced Adam’s path backwards I found the Garden of Eden as ancient history describes and eventually found where Eve was led over the wall by the flute player and down into the underworld, a picture story you see across the Americas. The flute player touching a crack a place where the veil of that temple was rent, a temple that the Bible describes that was made without hands and was added to when the Israelites were slaves in building the two treasure cities for the Mizraims.
Now in answer to your question Oro Blanco, the One Armed Cross that mentions Red Otero twice, has four dots, the four dots represent the four peaks or better said hill points that the Peralta Map shows next to the correct Salt River. The 2 big Xs describe the mines; one X is the entrance to the tunnel the other X is the shaft that intercepts the tunnel; these are entrance ways that the setting sun shines on, that the so-called Dutchman talked about. The two dots that are close to the end of the arm represents the 2 points of 2 hills that are above the place that is talked about in the Molino document close to the black rock, and that is the mine that this other document that I posted with parts of it blacked out, which also describes the treasures in that specific mine, it gives depths and talks about things which are the same as the measurements and descriptions that are on the Clyde Spider Rock Map of western Texas, and I left part of that Document that quotes word for word some of the things that the Molino Document talks about. Just these ties alone should start waking people up to the bigger picture that I am trying to present.
So if anyone wants to say that the Molino Documents don’t have a base of truth behind them are not informed on all the facts and history that surrounds them. For example the Peralta Maps of the Salt River and the four peaks, show them running parallel with the Salt River, those that drew that map weren’t so dumb as to put the four hills parallel to that river if that was not the case they could just as easily have drawn them going away from the river, that map is shown and talked about in part one The Golden Dream page 325, and there are many other things on that map that fit much better North of Adam’s Diggings, in fact their diggings were where that Salt River went over the waterfalls is within a mile of those four hills.
Red Otero or the four hills is the main identity or central landmark, which is on the opposite side of the river from the mines. Red Otero or the four hills are a common key to the place of the real Tayopa Mines, which are the Mines of the Molino Document (the Fugitive likely mixed the mines up on the Molino Document so they would be less likely to be recognized as the Tayopa Mines).
Don Jose de La Mancha, the map you posted with the church in the upper part of the biggest rectangle caught my attention. Many years ago when I first found what is left of that church I mistook it for very old ruins of living structures, because it was so badly destroyed. Having had quite a bit of experience digging up old ruins over 50 years ago before they started enforcing any laws on the matter, I gained some ability to recognize where mankind had built or worked, I was even hired once by someone from Chicago who paid me five dollars when I was around 15, to show them where they could dig up an Indian pot, which I did and he was happy to take home a whole Indian pot and other things.
Years later I revisited the site/the ruins of the church and found what was left of different buildings there, as laid out on one of the Tayopa Maps, the stones some of them were thrown down the slope and scattered in a way to try to make them blend in with nature, but the eye of anyone with experience can see the stones are strictly on the surface all of them having been hauled there. In the second largest rectangular box, close to the upper left corner you have 2 hills, them 2 hills or points are talked about in the Molino Document as well as the other document I have blacked out part of, representing the 2 points on the arm of the Cross Document, and without taking much more than a glance at it, I would assume that the measurements appear to fit the places where mines, tunnels and shafts have already been found. The 2 hills are also represented on the Clyde Spider Rock Map of Texas which shows the same 2 hills but more rounded on top like the one on the Molino Map next to the Black Rock.
You might want to understand that a place that is as famous as the Tayopa Mines, with all the Indians and Spanish involved over a period of time, you could only expect there would be a lot of trails from history leading back to that place, even though anyone making discoveries would hide and camouflage their discoveries. Also anyone that felt they had authentic maps or history to such important mines, would want to give out enough information to get backing, but not give someone else the upper-hand by giving up too much information, just cause there are a group of rich mines with a lot of history or trails going back to them is not to imply there are not thousands of other places where gold has been found with some of them still being hidden. There are very few valleys in the west where you can’t find some gold or traces of it.
There is way too much evidence to not recognize that certain mines are the same mines and people that re-found old mines would not necessarily identify them as the original old mines with their old names, to keep others from causing a problem or claiming them such as descendants or Jesuit Priests, claiming they have rights to it because it belonged to a Jesuit Padre. These mines go way back and belonged to the House of Abraham. Queen Sheba was a descendant of Abraham’s kin that Solomon married. In time these mines were hid up to come forth at a time when righteous law would be in effect, for the purpose of establishing the Ten Commandments and our Constitution through Judaic and Christian law.
The temple complex that the Molino Document talks about, is very big and appears to go back before Abraham’s time, and those that have been in it were blindfolded or taken there by the Indians. One wrote a story he camouflaged, who tried to turn the tables on Wesley Powel and the Smithsonian Institute, from what he saw. Now many believe the Smithsonian Institute is suppressing Information they have on the Grand Canyon, which is not entirely true, but it does reflect what they are doing with information all across the Americas. So the person who claimed to be G. E. Kinkaid pretty much killed 2 birds with one stone, he put shame on the Smithsonian Institute, which it deserved, and hid the temple complex that the Molino Document lightly talks about, in his article that was talked about in the Phoenix Gazette on April 5th 1909, that large complex, which the Molino Documents calls the Temple of Tumacacori. Was this built by those that had the wealth to do such, which they had gained from the mines? That area was an ideal place for the Aztecs to spirit part of their treasures to and hide them, it is not likely for them to hide their treasures in that sacred temple but in the mine complexes nearby, but their warriors who were left to guard the place would have married local Indians and their descendants would likely speak a lot of the Aztec Language, this would have been a dominant force and power close to the area of the mines where they hid their treasures. Cecilio Orozco, regardless of what his peers think, was hot on the trail, and I have known of others even before him.
Those that think they can understand the handwriting on the wall let’s see the evidence, the real proof of the pudding. Anybody can make big claims and quote a lot of things out of context, but they won’t fool me or those who know what I have discovered. Oro Blanco the photograph on the north I had already asked a friend of mine for the rest of the picture and what is to the right of the picture and below has been destroyed by erosion, but the same story is written many places and in time I can post them sites when I am at home and have access to my own photographs. I have given you more key clues than what the Fugitive so-called Dutchman left. Part of them which you already have in the Molino Documents, the Tayopa Maps, Peralta Stone Tablets and the Spider Rock Maps of Texas, just remember the priest on the Peralta Stones, even though they were not made by the Peraltas they are maps to the mines of the Peraltas, that priest is a padre representing the Padre Mines, and the A that is on top of his head represent Alpha the place of beginning, and the path on 2 of the Peralta Stones that has 18 dots does not just represent places, a path of round holes comes through Indian influence, I have seen paths with round marks on them before, the way Indians would speak in pointing out a path somewhere that would take so many suns to get there, these round marks represents suns or days it would take on that path, so the document is telling you that it is 18 days travel or camping sites or days to the heart. It is hard to comprehend those that are trying to make it fit in the Superstitious Mountains. At the beginning of the trail with the arrow that is bent, which represents the starting point there by Apache Junction where the Stones were found, it sends you to the left and then right to get onto the correct path. The first big wavy line at the beginning of the path represents the Mogollon Rim. The backwards D to the left of the arrow, it and the partially circled cross represents a sign post of the place that you are going to. The Fugitive so-called Dutchman called that place a name that started with a D. The cross represents the valley of the right Santa Cruz River. The big peaks above the Mogollon Rim are the San Francisco Peaks by Flagstaff. The path takes you eventually to the right of that area to the place of Adam’s diggings.
One account says the so-called Dutchman just before he died said that he left plenty of clues and he also said Geologists or Miners won’t recognize the place. Is this because they are chimneys that collapsed and became sink holes that with time erosion has filled in, except for a small amount of cutting by the Santa Cruz River, to where you would not even recognize they were sinkholes, unless you examine it as close as I did the church house and other buildings. Just remember the Bible says, seek the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added. That is literally the big key for those who want to share in bringing forth certain treasures. The treasure of knowledge needs to be put first, which to my knowledge has not been done even with Adam’s story. It is dangerous when our attention is based around greed and covetousness. I have been whipped in debates before, the person that used his cleverness and experience to whip me failed to help himself out of harm’s way, which he created for himself, a win to him was more important than the truth which could have saved him from the pitfalls that he fell in. I am not saying I did not deserve the thrashing I got.
I have a tenancy to think that the truth needs to be victorious all the time, and it is hard for me to not want to defend what I believe to be the greater truth, and I am sure that is the case with some of you. With so much corruption going on right now it is probably better for me to loose now on these topics that a greater win can transpire in the future. I want to thank you all for your input and opposition. I hope I have not said too much. Your future, the future of this nation and the world depends on the people that are willing to sacrifice to obtain the truth. The greatest treasure I could ever hope for would be for people to sacrifice for and stand on the truth; it would sure help put an end to the problems between the Muslims, the Jews the Christians and the uninformed college professors around the world.
RWLJ