Treasure Signs and Symbols 101

[rangler]

Bill
you had said...and ask...

" I was just pointing out the different formats. I wasn't sure just how accurate the KJV is to the Torah because of the many different languages the Bible has gone through and I know the Torah has been meticulously copied through the centuries to hold it's meanings intact. So "

Its a good observation and a great question..
the following a quotes...that I found when googling " is the modern day Bible accurate compared with the Dead Sea Scrolls.......

"The entire book of Isaiah and text from all but one other book, Esther, in the Hebrew Bible were found in the scrolls, which largely -- if not precisely -- confirmed the accuracy of later translations of the Bible. "

We can have confidence, then, that very little has been lost or altered in the last 2,000 years of transmission of the biblical manuscripts.

Now that all the scrolls are published, They provide evidence that the information contained in the books of the Bible has been handed down accurately, and can be trusted!

thanks for the question Bill
rangler

 

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[Shortstack]

'preciate the comeback, rangler. With the translations of the KJV going through the Old English / Middle English stage into modern English could have easily brought in some changes.
I think I need to get copies of the Torah in English (if one is available) and that Catholic Bible for my library. Not so much for treasure hunting, as to compare the historical reports / viewpoints. God is real!! It's the different descriptions of His words and deeds that tend to vary a little.

 

[rangler]

ss,
well yes and it is nice to know that the Jesuits trusted that by using the Bible as part
of their code, that it would be available for generations - unchanged, and that today
we can rely on the Bible as the true word of God -Truly transcribed thru the ages to
be accurate to the letter..
oro faithfully
rangler

 

[dsty]

Hello Rangler, I appreciate the background, knowledge and the thoughts that you offer. Blind in Texas the last photos you posted looks like a setup to me . BIT have you talked to Bob lately,

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Hello Rangler, I appreciate the background, knowledge and the thoughts that you offer. Blind in Texas the last photos you posted looks like a setup to me . BIT have you talked to Bob lately,

Exactly what I thought. dsty, you don't have the slightest clue as to what you are looking at. I would think that since you claim to know so much, as does your friend rangler, you would be the one of the first to put your knowledge to the test. However, avoidance was your choice of weapons. I have already explained this carving to a couple of people. So, to those who have been told, if you don't mind, please allow the rest of these 'experts' to enlighten us.

dsty. Of course the stone was placed. My, your observation skills are so keen. Now, what does it mean? What are we to do with it? I already know what they both mean. The stone was not placed by me. My 14 year old son was with me when it was found. I would never teach a child to be deceitful and dishonest. So, put down your paranoia and enlighten us.

 

[Springfield]

ss,
well yes and it is nice to know that the Jesuits trusted that by using the Bible as part
of their code, that it would be available for generations - unchanged, and that today
we can rely on the Bible as the true word of God -Truly transcribed thru the ages to
be accurate to the letter..
oro faithfully
rangler

Surely you jest. Just about the time you become fluent in Aramaic and Greek is when you will be qualified to defend this statement.

 

[dsty]

Hello bit, i lost any respect for you because i guess you thought i was trying to say that i thought you set it there, i think i was trying to say trap, because its too obvious, have you tried teaching school.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

dsty. I never thought for a second that you suspected me of placing that stone. I don't believe you aimed that statement at me for ill purposes, either. It's fine if you don't respect me. The remainder of the statement was directed at anyone else who might think that I had made a set-up. A better BIT of clarification would have been helpful on my part. At any rate, the 'heart' stone IS placed and should be fairly obvious as such.

 

[Clay Lindsey]

BIT,
I'd be curious as to what awaits you at the top of the crevice. Also, I attribute this you and DSTY thing to a miscommunication. I hope you two can work towards a common ground. You both are essential.

Rangler,
Flanked by two owls... You have no idea how much that helps.

Isis,
Yes, it is possible that modern man would utilize a very functional concept derived/created by historical man. It would most likely the reason why we have gunsights on weapons and geosyncronous satelites to navigate by. Who would have thunk it?

Clay

 

[rangler]

i said

well yes and it is nice to know that the Jesuits trusted that by using the Bible as part
of their code, that it would be available for generations - unchanged, and that today
we can rely on the Bible as the true word of God -Truly transcribed thru the ages to
be accurate to the letter..
oro faithfully
rangler

Surely you jest. Just about the time you become fluent in Aramaic and Greek is when you will be qualified to defend this statement.

Show me how I am wrong, since Biblical Scholars are amazed that the Dead Sea Scrolls made before the Greeks and Arabs translated anything, were so accurate?

can you clarify ?
rangler

 

[rangler]

Quote from: rangler on Yesterday at 09:12:55 PM
ss,
well yes and it is nice to know that the Jesuits trusted that by using the Bible as part
of their code, that it would be available for generations - unchanged, and that today
we can rely on the Bible as the true word of God -Truly transcribed thru the ages to
be accurate to the letter..
oro faithfully
rangler
Surely you jest. Just about the time you become fluent in Aramaic and Greek is when you will be qualified to defend this statement

surley YOU jest, you mean that I personally have to learn Aramaic and Greek to be able to defend that statement>? I am sure you mean something else..........please clarify
rangler

wiki
The texts are of great religious and historical significance, as they include the oldest known surviving copies of Biblical and extra-biblical documents and preserve evidence of great diversity in late Second Temple Judaism. They are written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek,

 

[rangler]

clay...
rangler,
Flanked by two owls... You have no idea how much that helps.

always happy to help, the true treasure hunter, amigo
rangler

 

[Shortstack]

rangler, dsty, and clay.
Do any of you know ANYBODY who goes onto the treasure trail wearing patent leather boots?? Just another muse.
And, as a point of information for anyone interested; Hebrew is the language of Heaven and was the language of the WORLD until the incident at Babel.

 

[Springfield]

Quote from: rangler on Yesterday at 09:12:55 PM
ss,
well yes and it is nice to know that the Jesuits trusted that by using the Bible as part of their code, that it would be available for generations - unchanged, and that today we can rely on the Bible as the true word of God -Truly transcribed thru the ages to be accurate to the letter..
oro faithfully
rangler
Surely you jest. Just about the time you become fluent in Aramaic and Greek is when you will be qualified to defend this statement

surley YOU jest, you mean that I personally have to learn Aramaic and Greek to be able to defend that statement>? I am sure you mean something else..........please clarify
rangler

wiki
The texts are of great religious and historical significance, as they include the oldest known surviving copies of Biblical and extra-biblical documents and preserve evidence of great diversity in late Second Temple Judaism. They are written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek,

The point is that when ancient texts are translated to a different, newer language, the original intent is often changed somewhat due to choices made by the translator. This is especially true when heiroglyphs and symbols, such as Egyptian, Mayan, etc., are the original and a narrative interpretation is attempted. The same applies to Hebrew and Aramaic as far as the bible is concerned since the language structures and word usages are so different than, say, English. Greek not so much. When some thumper thumps a KJV bible and says it's the literal word of god, he's wrong on two counts: 1) the original scribe was not a god, he was a man putting the contemporary priesthood's spin on the subject at hand; and 2) the accepted English version contains a number of arbitrary interpretations of the scribe's work in order to 'come close' to the original and of course to align to the current priesthoods' agenda. What you have is a set of documents that have been edited each time they have been reinterpreted, sometimes by chance, some times by design.

 

[10claw]

hope you guys don't believe springfield about translating. seems like he's never found a king james bible. most of what he said comes from mr. origin himself and is just pure hogwash.

 

[Shortstack]

Do you guys seriously believe the Jesuits were involved in criminal activity and used the bible as an accessory to the crime?

Is anyone here familiar with the word Blasphemy?

Cheez, now who in the world woke HIM / HER up?? Lulliby, and good night; though the cat----tle are looooooweing.......................Go back to sleep,now baby. Everything is alright. ..................

Now, back to the subject of this thread.
Codes and markings referencing books, chapters, and verses are demonstrated sources of info on the trails. My asking questions to clarify the KJV as the most likely reference book was simply to clearly provide the source. If the Spanish "explorers" were Roman Catholic and the Jesuits were the workers of less than clean deeds, then I was simply wanting to make sure the KJV was, actually reliable for the codes. That question was answered now lets move on. If you are still wondering about the validity of the KJV, then read the Book of Jubilees, also known as "Little Genesis" for the words written by God's attending angel in Mose's presence as a teaching tool for Mose's education.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

BIT,
I'd be curious as to what awaits you at the top of the crevice. Also, I attribute this you and DSTY thing to a miscommunication. I hope you two can work towards a common ground. You both are essential.

Rangler,
Flanked by two owls... You have no idea how much that helps.

Isis,
Yes, it is possible that modern man would utilize a very functional concept derived/created by historical man. It would most likely the reason why we have gunsights on weapons and geosyncronous satelites to navigate by. Who would have thunk it?

Clay

Clay, I agree with the miscommunication section. Mine has already been worked out. SS, for your childish comment, I can't see you anymore. At least now my pages will load faster.

 

[Shortstack]

BIT,
I'd be curious as to what awaits you at the top of the crevice. Also, I attribute this you and DSTY thing to a miscommunication. I hope you two can work towards a common ground. You both are essential.

Rangler,
Flanked by two owls... You have no idea how much that helps.

Isis,
Yes, it is possible that modern man would utilize a very functional concept derived/created by historical man. It would most likely the reason why we have gunsights on weapons and geosyncronous satelites to navigate by. Who would have thunk it?

Clay

Clay, I agree with the miscommunication section. Mine has already been worked out. SS, for your childish comment, I can't see you anymore. At least now my pages will load faster.

For the record, BIT..............I know you already had me on your "ignore" list, so don't be so melodramatic.
Now, what have I done to warrant your "childish comment"............errrrr, comment??

Trying AGAIN to get back to the subject of this thread.......................BIT, that photo you posted of the spalded rock doesn't mean anything. It's just a rock with surface damage that I believe is a geo-artifact. I believe you are suffering from that "P" word rangler likes.

 

[Clay Lindsey]

SWR,

Yes, the Jesuits did play party to the conversion and eventual oppression of native cultures. Living here in the Southwest, I see genetic evidence of their indescretions everyday in the faces of hispanic peoples.

SS,
Those are "highly shined" Army boots, not patent leather. I recognize those anywhere...

Clay

 

[Clay Lindsey]

SWR,

You asked, "Do you guys seriously believe the Jesuits were involved in criminal activity and used the bible as an accessory to the crime? Is anyone here familiar with the word Blasphemy?"

Yes, the Jesuits used their faith and their bible to convert and oppress. If that is fact, THEN it would be logical that they would use their bible as a code book as well. And I appreciate your permission to allow me to conduct myself in the same fashion you choose to, i.e. devils advocate. Thank you.

Clay