Too Hot to Dig...

Old Dog said:
Odd,
The sign I speak of is marked in this picture.
Not in a book anywhere. It doesn't point, it just indicates the presence ahead.
A couple years of deductive reasoning figured this one out.

Thanks once again for pointing out useful info for all of us. I have found several similar marks. After going back and looking and taking more pics...looks like the bottom of the mark is a little more U shaped than V shaped. 50 varas seems to fit though.

Oddrock
 

thom,

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Yea, seen this in my neck of the woods. I been calling it the 'eyebrow of the owl'

Also looking at the pic, I see the 'usual suspects' confirming the site.

ororeligiously
rangler
 

rangler,

Since tree signs and diamonds seem to be good, here is one of mine. (nearby is the start of a trail)

Oddrock
 

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Jim,

A few steps to the left and it is more diamond shaped, but I would have to cut the small tree down to get the pic and did not have an ax with me or really want to cut it anyway....getting lazy I guess.

Oddrock
 

That rock in the pictures lower right corner looks interesting. Here in Colorado I've only identified a couple of stumps that seem to mark trails. Probably missing some good sign by not paying more attention to trees.
 

oddrock,
not too sure... it looks pretty sketchy, consider:

A. the tree does not look old enough
B. not a sharp diamond

however it might be another group not the Jesuits
I would check the compass heading to see if it points the same direction
then you might have something....
thanks for posting,
rangler
 

tertiaryjim said:
That rock in the pictures lower right corner looks interesting. Here in Colorado I've only identified a couple of stumps that seem to mark trails. Probably missing some good sign by not paying more attention to trees.

Jim,
Read the basic signs thread a bit deeper,
I have made many posts about trees and stumps used to mark trails and how they can be followed.
 

rangler said:
oddrock,
not too sure... it looks pretty sketchy, consider:

A. the tree does not look old enough
B. not a sharp diamond

however it might be another group not the Jesuits
I would check the compass heading to see if it points the same direction
then you might have something....
thanks for posting,
rangler

Thank you for your observations.
A. old enough for what?
B. well it is a bit sharper as I stated a few steps to the left? (probably has other meanings too...similar to another tree sign I posted eariler)

I agree maybe not Jesuits (German, Spanish or otherwise)
I have posted other tree S/S on another thread and if anyone would like to see them here I guess I can post them again. Some show how the S/S were replaced when the trees died etc. If no one is interested I will not waste my time or yours.

Oddrock
 

tertiaryjim said:
That rock in the pictures lower right corner looks interesting. Here in Colorado I've only identified a couple of stumps that seem to mark trails. Probably missing some good sign by not paying more attention to trees.
Jim,

I pay attention to any limbs, tree trunks, etc. grafted together. It is not natural for a tree to grow out of the ground at an angle, for the limbs to separate and then come back together and then....one could also say it is a Zodiac sign of Pieces or the Fish sign of Christ...but that would just be spectulation on my part.
Oddrock
 

Thanks Old Dog ! Will be reviewing lots of stuff next week as time allows. Every time I do look back to the past posts I find so much that went over my head at the time !!!
 

Jim,
Spanish style stumps were always cut with an axe and were from 12 inches to 4 feet tall.
they ran about 35 to 40 feet apart with a distinguishing characteristic ...
you can see the last one from the one you are standing by, as well as the next.
Unless you stand at a severe bend in a stump trail you will be able to see three at a stance.

They are usually on a cleared area, and the trail will be visible even when you can't see the stumps.
These trails intersect main trails of commerce and travel.
On the more heavily traveled trails the stumps I have found will be a double row of staggered stumps.
They will be about 20 feet between the rows the trail will be a cleared 20 foot wide path that was improved for mule and horse travel, even wagons and carts could use it easily.

All very interesting stuff.

Sorry Oddrock,
back to your subject.
 

Here is another one that might look iffy. This likely is just where a trail continues though it is associated with an end point.
 

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It is not natural for a tree to grow out of the ground at an angle, for the limbs to separate and then come back together and then.


Tree's grow out of the ground here @ an angle prob over 50% of the time ..snow load when young, High wind etc...then sunlite takes over & they do what comes natural...

Ive yet to see a tree sign here on a tree older than 90yrs...( OD's Stumps are not included In tree's)

Not a bash ODDROCK..just an observation...those trees dont appear old enough..settler trail perhaps?
 

goldguru said:
It is not natural for a tree to grow out of the ground at an angle, for the limbs to separate and then come back together and then.


Tree's grow out of the ground here @ an angle prob over 50% of the time ..snow load when young, High wind etc...then sunlite takes over & they do what comes natural...

Ive yet to see a tree sign here on a tree older than 90yrs...( OD's Stumps are not included In tree's)

Not a bash ODDROCK..just an observation...those trees dont appear old enough..settler trail perhaps?
I am a wee bit south of Canada and heavy snow load is not a factor. If it was perhaps 50% of the trees in my photo would be at such an angle.
I did not state the date of any tree photos I have posted. I would speculate none are over 150 years of age. Some are a whole lot less. My point is a latter day group did mark trails with altered trees that were already marked by ancients, Spanish/Jesuits, etc. Perhaps it was only settlers passing through. If so why not just whack a blaze with the old ax and be on your way? ;D
Oddrock
 

The following pics are of a tree (bottom part still living, top died and was broken off) that comes out of the ground fairly straight and the winds around 3 complete revolutions before straightning out again. Perhaps twisted by a tornadic wind or a settler with too much time on their hands? :laughing7:

Oddrock
 

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Been pondering...

Do you think they were trying to entice you to dig beneath that rock? A few things and a few possibilities..stood out.
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1. The left lobe seems to have ears. As if it might be a fat cat or owl.

2. The right lobe is an owl or cat facing you sitting on a couple of boxes. There seems to be specific linear carving from the top box to the head.


3. This puffy shape looks similar to one or two I have seen, but they were in much smaller form (do not know the meaning for sure but think of them as favorable.)

Perhaps since this figure 3 does not seem to be shaven or flattened like rest of the rock...it may both be a symbol for something and a topo relief. If so I might expect to find confirmation signs or further directions on it.

4. The blade shape of this piece of the picture with 4 on it, reminds me of a similar piece on a trail monument I posted that seemed designed to beckon the unwary to sure death.

The red arrows are areas I would look at for danger signs....if there are any.

The lay of rock below that whole rock face could be natural.The growth of lichen or emergence of caliche natural too. But it reminds me a dead lamb. Head to the left. Ear and most the muzzle in white. Broken neck..its head is twisted the wrong way.

Toward right..things I would just examine to see if anything useful there,half expecting to see danger signs.
 

Kim,

I do not think I am being told to dig directly under this rock. I see it as more of a bulletin board of what is on the trail...along with some of rangler's Pareidolia?

Oddrock
 

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