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Bear: You posted --> Sorry.... I didn't intend on offending anyone with that discription
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Sheehs, the entire post was a tongue in cheek attempt at lame humor, including my remark about turning females upside down. Relax my friend.

Look at what I posted about poor Joe


Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Agreed RDT...

QB - you'll have to be a little more careful about how seriously you take what some folks say here... *points a finger in the direction of ...... hmmm, no, I'll let him figure it out I think*
 

No worries.

Did I forget to mention that the pic is actually of a man and woman? Split the picture down the middle to see each side seperately. Many more signs are in that pic.
 

Paul,

Did I mention that the store had maps to the LDM? In addition, I believe they have some pretty good maps to help you get back out of the mountains, once you manage to get in. :dontknow:

All in all, it was a fine store. Believe my Uncle Chuck was instrumental in getting it built, back around 1980-81. Place had a walk-in cooler......for the lemonade. :thumbsup:

Take care,

Joe
 

Catusj,Could you please give me some imfo.on the cave photo you posted
. It looks like the first section of wood supports are newer than the second section down. Is the wood from a Cotton wood tree if you know.Also anthing else ou care to mention about the cave/mine.
Thanks in advance,Jon
 

For those of you that don't know why the ( __l'''l__ ) arch and base line are used to symbolise a mine.

Mineral ores come from molten rock, forced up through the earth's crust. This molten rock is boiling, and the minerals are swirling around and not having the chance to settle back down, they get trapped as the molten rock cools quikly. The places with the most preasure and that holds the most mineral ore, is at the center or tip. This center/tip is Identified by what is known to some as "The finger of God" and looks like a multitude of "arches" one inside the other, something like the way a marble cake looks. Along with the arch, there is also a fault zone at the base. Mostly all heavy minerals are found within this Arch/swirl/finger is and near by.
These places don't always look like this. It would all depend on what part is showing from the rock.

I have added a pic near to the Apache trail, I'm sure you can see where it's from. the purple is the symbol and the yellow is the rock itself.
 

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You may also associate the Mason's "Bee hive" to this symbol as well. To the Masons, the bee hive represents "Industry". It takes money,gold,silver... to make this happen. For the bee, the gold was the honey.
 

David,

I am the one who posted the picture. You can assume that I know it's Masonic.

On the other hand, are you familiar with the symbolic connections between the Mormons and the Masons? Are you aware of the strong Mormon presence in Arizona and around the Superstition Mountains?

If you were, you might be suspicious of finding such a tombstone in the Superstitions. The bee hive is the key, but it goes far beyond that, into the symbolic trapings of both organizations.

Joe Ribaudo
 

Yes I do know the contection between the two.
This is why I posted that picture of a person holding open a curtain with a cresent moon on the top and bottom. This picture tells the story, you just need to know how to look at it.
There are 13 churches of god and they all follow the same basic code of life in one way or another. I won't get into it here though, it's way too much to get into for a post that is about the peralta stones. I have told you befor, I am a man of the earth and of god. I have looked into this stuff all my life.
Here are two pics of this picture split in half and flipped over to reveal a man and the other half, a woman.


I mirror works well...
 

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HOLA amigo Gossamer!
Good to see you posting again! Any new info on the ball court? I wonder if our amigo Quinan Bear has been able to find that in the Superstitions using Google Earth? Blindbowman never did tell me the actual coordinates. I look forward to your reply.

Don Jose - sheesh don't knock sock coffee until you have tried it! Of course it tastes much better after a very long, hot day, and if you don't know what went into the pot. But then who would eat sausages if they knew what went into them? :tongue3:

Quinan Bear - have you found the Aztec Ball Court in the Superstitions? No, not kidding. Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco
 

Quinan Bear said:
Aztec Ball Court???
Could you please elaborate on a bit more details of what that is exactly? Thanks.
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There was quite a discussion here on T-net about this discovery, reported by our long-absent member Blindbowman. If you do a search of the past threads you will find a lot on it. Here is one, for starters;
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,155453.msg1226351.html#msg1226351

Here is a formal ballcourt, not Aztec but basically the same design;
250px-Monte_Alb%C3%A1n-12-05oaxaca024.jpg


More on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_ballgame

I am a bit surprised Quinan Bear - that you have not found this, after finding/fitting so many of the other symbols from the stone maps? An oversight? I take it that you have not found the Ball Court.

*Side note here but other Ball Courts have been found at ancient Amerindian sites in the USA, and the one in the Superstitions is more likely Hohokam than Aztec, but since BB is not here to present that argument I don't mind whether it is called Aztec, Hohokam or Tennis.
Oroblanco
 

Sorry i thought you meant a real one.
Yes I did in fact find a few of them, but only ONE that had maps leading to it. This would be the Heart map the i speak of. Parts of the story to finding the LDM says that you will see a saddle shaped canyon, this is another reason why i won't show this on the forum.
 

Quinan Bear said:
Sorry i thought you meant a real one.
Yes I did in fact find a few of them, but only ONE that had maps leading to it. This would be the Heart map the i speak of. Parts of the story to finding the LDM says that you will see a saddle shaped canyon, this is another reason why i won't show this on the forum.
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I do mean a real one. There is only one, and man-made not a natural formation. It is not the Heart. The Hohokam, Sinagua, Anasazi and others also built them; they are in ruins of course and the game may not have been identical with the one played by the Aztecs, Mayans etc but it is quite real. Blindbowman said the stone walls of it are partly falling down and partly covered by dirt and plants etc but clearly discernible. He was convinced it was Aztec, but without measurements of the dimensions who can say?
Oroblanco
 

PS here is a Ball Court in Arizona, at Wupatki National Monument <from the wiki>
751px-Wupatki_Ballcourt.jpg


See what I mean about it being different from those of the Mayans (and Aztecs, for that matter, which BB never did address this problem) and that it is clearly NOT a natural formation, just as Circlestone is not a natural formation and is in the Superstition mountains.
Oroblanco
 

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