The Peralta Stones

David,

"If they think that this is the LDM, have they located his partner's grave which was buried near by?"

Lone graves don't show up very well after 150-200 years in this country......unless they have a marker. (Tombstone) Which partner do you believe Waltz buried there?

Wow again! That's rather prescient of you, as I recently found this rather elaborate tombstone:

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Were you expecting this, and does it mean anything to you?

Thanks in advance,

Joe
 

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David,

This was found in an entirely different location, but seems to have a connection to Jacob Waltz:

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Gary,

Both of these pictures were found while I was in the desert. :o Of course I live in the desert.

Take care,

Joe
 

SNIFF, you mean that is 'NOT' THE trading post? And here i was looking forward to a tall, cool one.

What happened to the picture? It had a square unpainted lower tin roof with an upper, separated one for max ventilation painted blue for max visibility also with the same basic background?

Don Jose de La Mancha

(psst watch it, yer ruining my reputation)
 

Don Jose,

Just saying it's not MY building. Your's is smack dab in flash flood country. Sheesh, that's got to be new (very new) construction. ::)

Keep dry,

Joe
 

Don Jose,

Well.......If it was my building, it would be E. Gold Rush Rd.....or something like that. :D Anyway, that seems appropriate.

We were going down lake powell in a houseboat one year, and California got hit with an earthquake. We didn't know anything about it until after a huge wave came down the lake right at us. Thinking quickly, we opened the sliding glass door at the front and the sliding glass door at the rear, and let her come right on through. Exciting! :o

Take care,

Joe
 

cactusjumper said:
Don Jose,

Well.......If it was my building, it would be E. Gold Rush Rd.....or something like that. :D Anyway, that seems appropriate.

We were going down lake powell in a houseboat one year, and California got hit with an earthquake. We didn't know anything about it until after a huge wave came down the lake right at us. Thinking quickly, we opened the sliding glass door at the front and the sliding glass door at the rear, and let her come right on through. Exciting! :o

Take care,

Joe
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E. Gold Rush Road? I thought it was Rattlesnake Road. :icon_scratch: :dontknow: Just ask anyone in Apache Jct for directions to Rattlesnake Road. :thumbsup:

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You can believe what you want.
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:hello2: :headbang: :icon_thumleft: :icon_thumright: :wink: I believe I will get myself another cup of tea. :thumbsup: :coffee2:

Oroblanco
 

cactusjumper said:
Roy,

Funny, I always took you for a bourbon and branch man. :dontknow:

Take care,

Joe
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Tequila and Coke but I ain't generally choosy - unfortunately can't have alcohol <meds, to keep those danged voices quiet and reduce those psychotic episodes ;D> just kind of got a hankerin for a good cup of tea this evening. I hope all is well with you, and really you have a lot of adventures that I hope to hear (or will settle for readin') like riding out an earthquake in a houseboat on a lake! :o Sheesh I would have been scared silly. :o
Roy
 

Roy,

"E. Gold Rush Road? I thought it was Rattlesnake Road. Just ask anyone in Apache Jct for directions to Rattlesnake Road."

For the record, it was Rattlesnake Lane, and I don't believe there is a soul alive who can tell you where it was. If someone can come up with its old location, there are a few people who would love to hear it........including Tom Kollenborn.

Take care,

Joe
 

I do love coming here and finding you guys are discussing things relevent to what is happening around me.... LOL
My cousin just closed on a house out in Gold Canyon.... out his front window is the expanse of the Sups. Its amazing.... and his street is 'Strike it Rich Road." :thumbsup:
It was so fun to tell him about all of you and I'm sure he and his wife will join me at the next get together.
It was great driving around that area and finding places named Corazon? sorry about any spelling.
Carry on... I'm recovering from Cycle/Bike week and my sis and my many adventures.
love, Janiece
 

Gossamer said:
I do love coming here and finding you guys are discussing things relevent to what is happening around me.... LOL
My cousin just closed on a house out in Gold Canyon.... out his front window is the expanse of the Sups. Its amazing.... and his street is 'Strike it Rich Road." :thumbsup:
It was so fun to tell him about all of you and I'm sure he and his wife will join me at the next get together.
It was great driving around that area and finding places named Corazon? sorry about any spelling.
Carry on... I'm recovering from Cycle/Bike week and my sis and my many adventures.
love, Janiece
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Wha??? Who??? Well look who's back checkin' up on us again - our old friend Janiece :)

Ok, so start spilling the beans, what kind of adventures??? Good to see you're still alive and kicking!
 

Thomas Brierley was born on July 16 1785 at Mellor to Joab Brierley and Betty Arnfield. He was also known as Tommy and some references call him Didymus - perhaps confusing him for an uncle of that name or as a common alternative to Thomas.

Thomas became a blockprinter at the mill at Strines Printworks where calico was printed and later a carter who plied his trade between Ludworth and Disley
Here is what I could read on the Tombstone.
The oval down at the bottom has two hands shaking and I can say by the outline that it a handshake of people of the highest degrees/rank.
The left side represents heaven and the right earth.
The Masonic symbol of the compass and the T-square represents movement toward perfection and a balance between the spiritual and physical which resembles Egyptian and oriental mysticism. The compass (used to form circles) represent spirit. The ruler (part of a square) represent the physical. Some public schools pass out pencil cases and other gifts decorated with this emblem.
Tau Cross Symbol of the god Mathras of the Persians and the Aryans of India. To them, Mathras was an "angel of light" or the "heavenly light". It is used in modern Masonry under the symbol of the T square
The Lambskin or White Leathern Apron which every Freemason is presented with as an Entered Apprentice is an emblem of innocence and the badge of a Freemason. Its pure and spotless surface is to be an ever present reminder of purity of life and rectitude of conduct, a never ending argument for higher thoughts, for nobler deeds, for greater In predominantly Christian societies the Furniture of a Lodge consists of the Holy Bible, Square and Compasses. However, the universality of Freemasonry teaches that all men are free to follow the religious doctrine of their choice. The Holy book of the candidate's chosen religion may be substituted for the Bible during the obligation. In American Lodges the Holy Bible will remain open on the altar as well.
The Mallet is used by operative masons to correct irregularities and create uniformity within a structure. In speculative Masonry the Mallet morally teaches to correct irregularities, and reduce man to a proper level; so that, by quiet deportment, he may, in the school of discipline learn to be content.
The Chisel, in the hands of the craftsman, is used to transform the gemstone from its original rude and unpolished state and reveal the latent beauties within. As a symbol in speculative Masonry it morally demonstrates the advantages of discipline and education. Just as the brilliance of the diamond is revealed by the skillful use of the chisel, so too will the beauties of the human mind be revealed through knowledge
PHOENIX: A universal symbol of the sun, rebirth, resurrection and immortality, this legendary red "fire bird" was believed to die in its self-made flames periodically (each hundred years, according to some sources) then rise again out of its own ashes (some say after three days) -- as in this picture from a 5th century Turkish mosaic. Linked to the worship of the fiery sun and sun gods such as Mexico's Quetzalcoatl, it was named "a god of Phoenecia" by the Phoenician. To alchemists, it symbolized the the destruction and creation of new forms of matter along the way to the ultimate goal: the philosopher's stone
The trowel is an instrument used by operative masons to spread the cement which unites the individual stones of a building into one common mass. As Free and Accepted Masons we symbolically use it to spread the cement of brotherly love and affection; that cement which unites us into one sacred band or society of friends and brothers.

On the left side, top corner you will see an angel blowing his/her trumpet, below is ZA (Zeta, Alpha).
On the right, A moon with stars( heaven), A flag with a horse (nobleman), A small ladder (symbelizing the climb into heaven), A man pointing up (To praise), a maul or mallet (Builder), a 5 pioint star (North star, Guide in the night)
In the center, A book (Bible), skull and cross bones (sign of passing or death), Key (Governer or leader, (Master Mason)), a trowel ( a Mallet/maul (builder)....Etc...


I don't want to make this too long of a post. So i will stop there you get the idea. it's a Mason's tombstone. I do see signs of a secret within the stone. The stone itself tells the story of who this man was and his position in the society and his death. I would need to see a much better photo of this stone to be able to say more and I also will point out that the left side has pieces missing.

Thanks for the pic.
 

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Something ealse I would like to add for the tombstone. This might help.

Oh...
I added that picture of the woman to show you a clasic example of hidden signs and meanings. Look at the left breast of the woman and turn it upside down, now look at the robe of the angel on the left of the Tombstone. Get it ? She is in the shap of a cross and holding chains and opening a curtain, above the curtain is a cresent moon, in the center between the curve of the moon, you can make out the all seeing eye in the shades. Many of these signs are in this picture.
The light gray/silver design on the top, middle and the brass/gold triangle, along with the desin of the tomb. Show you the sign of the "plumb" and is also a part of the cross. Do you see the cross?
 

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sigh, only four things---

1) Roy posted ---> I believe I will get myself another cup of tea.
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Sheesh, that definitely kills his old sock egg shell coffee for me if EVEN he can't drink it !
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2) Hi gossi luv welcome bk.
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3) Bear posted --> Look at the left breast of the woman and turn it upside down
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Sheesh, blushing Bear, This IS a family room even if such as Oro & Joe do post in here. Blushing again.
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4) Speaking of immoral posters, I see that Joe cannot even remember his address, think of all of his LDM data that he has forgotten, prob the actual location itself. He just forgot that he had forgotten where or when he saw it. Advanced Alzheimer's? or is he just plain nuts? snicker. That sun surely does get hot in those canyons, besides frying eggs on a rock it can ------

it is beginning to appear that Oro is the same, Gosi, you may be able to restore some sanity in here, they will now pull in their tummies and stick out their chins to look more manly.

Don Jose de La Mancha (El secluded chaste Saint living in a cave)
 

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