The Peralta Stones

[Quinan Bear]

Oroblanco;
You asked if I read all the stones ?
Well, lets see.
(1) The Horse Stone ...................................................................................Read and Marked
(2) The Priest Stone ...................................................................................Read and Marked
(3) The lower trail Stone ............................................................................Read and marked
(4) The Upper trail Stone ...........................................................................Read and Marked
(5) The Heart Stone with numbers..............................................................Not read
(6) The Heart Stone with Latin words.........................................................Read and Marked
(7) The Cross stone with maps ..................................................................Not Read
(8} The Cross Stone with words .................................................................Not Read

OK, not all the stones, but the ones that I didn't read, just show the same places.
I must admit some Stones were very hard to read and figure out all the markers. It will take someone there (my partners) to give me better pics/views to pin point things more better for documentation.

By the sounds of things here and other sites, there are people in the Mountains that have found some of these veins and are working them. Perhaps these people are responsible for some of the disapearences ? Who knows, but It's not the first time that I have heard people telling others to stay away from certain areas.

 

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[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

HOLA EVERY ONE: """"just sharing"""" these new "Stereo" images with you all here i thought every one might like them.

 

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[Oroblanco]

Santa FE NM - what the heck are you posting? Is this something we are supposed to have neato 3-D cardboard glasses to fully appreciate? Or does it require six Wyoming shots of Mexican tequila to get the full effect? Man, amigo I wish you would take a look at those pix without any 3-D glasses on to see what I am talking about - it will give you a headache quick!

You didn't answer my question either amigo.

Quinan Bear - thank you for explaining; the "fifth Peralta" stone was found in recent years by the Dillmans, in the Superstitions, and they have stated this 5th stone really changes how you should interpret ALL the others. I just wondered if you had compared it with the other four, and factored in the changes. I don't have a photo of it, if anyone is about to ask, sorry.

Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

ORO WROTE: "Looking to get rid of me" I thought it was the other way around thanks for clarifying and yes something we are supposed to have neato 3-D cardboard glasses to fully appreciate

 

[Oroblanco]

ORO WROTE: "Looking to get rid of me" I thought it was the other way around thanks for clarifying and yes something we are supposed to have neato 3-D cardboard glasses to fully appreciate

Other way around? It is you who said it is so dangerous to go there amigo, not me. I get the impression you DO want me to go up to your site. Am I not already far enough away from it, that kind of makes it pretty unlikely that I could ever do any high-grading? Besides, no one has any kind of legal claim on it, so.....

Sorry but many of us don't have 3-D glasses amigo - those pix just give me a headache. I don't get what it is that you are trying to present with that stuff.
Oroblanco

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

ORO WROTE: "I don't get what it is that you are trying to present with that stuff" You know ORO i dont get it either i think REAL made a statement "Conclusions, get ((((""""stereo"""")))) aerial photographs and recheck your data, don't rely upon the free Google version, too many spatial distortions. If you can afford it, get the best version."

 

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[Quinan Bear]

Oro;
I have to agree with you. It gives me a headache too. I see something in those pics, but I'm sure Mr. Santa doesn't realize it and I'm not talking about that place that has been marked in earlier post.

I think it's quite funny to see people post pics to show something that they found but in the process, they are showing a place where a true "Treasure" was buried. I won't say what exactly but I will say it's not gold ore.

I think I can help you on your quest Oro. I told you earlier about cracks in the earth's crust, So I guess I should tell you about the way to look for places that may hold ore bearing rock. When you look at the landscape, look for the places that are like the swirl that I showed you in the Toyopa Pic that you showed me. these swirls are places where the magma or molten rock came up throught the crust. If you can find a places where the rock is twisted and is in line with those cracks, then you might just find minerals there to. Another thing that I do, is look at the rocks that are found in other mines around that area. A water sample from streams in the area will let you know is the water flowed over minerals because the water will absorb the mineral as it passes over it. So if you take samples from, lets say ten rivers along a mine of land. The closer you get to the minerals, the more will be seen in the water samples.

You may already know this but I thought I would bring it up just in case you didn't. Always willing to help out a fellow hunter

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

'It gives me a headache too' both of you guys are giving me a headache please stop and q bear i halve to agree with cubfan "The only thing you've shown that I commented specifically on was your Google Earth image of the Priest Stone - my only comment was that I saw nothing on that image to convince me that your interpretation was anything more than "seeing pictures in the clouds."

 

[SANTA FE NEW MEXICAN]

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[Quinan Bear]

SFNM;
If you think that I would just come on this forum and show you all that I have discovered. Then you are sadly mistaken. I showed you a mine, Yes, It's just not part of the priest map. But in fact, it might be the best mine of all, other than the Vault.
Someone asked me if i could put the stone maps over a topographical map to match them up. The answer is Yes I can but I will not reveal this information to you until I have finished with documenting my find.

If any of you are looking for these maps from the ground? then you are gonna look for the rest of your lives or unless you get lucky and stand at the right place.
No Google or air planes back then, not even maps when these Stone maps were created. So how did they find their way around? They would climb high points and look around to see what the land looked like. This is exactly how these Maps were made and this is the way to read them.

In time, you will see it all. Only thing that you will be able to do after that, is take a guided tour or maybe they will close this area completely to the public, I don't realy know what will happen. I do know that these mines and the stones authenticity will be known by all. If you have found one of these mines? then I would advise you to stake it,clean it out or make plans to look for another mine elsewhere, ASAP.

 

[Oroblanco]

ORO WROTE: "I don't get what it is that you are trying to present with that stuff" You know ORO i dont get it either i think REAL made a statement "Conclusions, get ((((""""stereo"""")))) aerial photographs and recheck your data, don't rely upon the free Google version, too many spatial distortions. If you can afford it, get the best version."

I put part of your post there in BOLD type, to point out something amigo - those satellite pix you posted, a blur of colors and dots, are NOT aerial stereo photographs. Here is an example of what our mutual amigo Don Jose was referring to;

These require special glasses too, but not with two different colored lenses. They will look something like this;

Thanks for the advice Quinan Bear.

Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

 

[somehiker]

Hi Roy:
A "sterioscopic viewer" that I once spent many hours peering thru.Always wound up with a headache from this thing as well but one could accurately estimate the height of an object with some practice.The photos were good enough to even type the vegitation.
Regards:SH

 

[Quinan Bear]

Oroblanco;

Like somehiker said, they to give headaches. not only that but to get geared up with camera and lens are expensive. They are great to have though, I have used them before a friend that I have in the department of natural resources alows me to see places that I may want to go visit.

I don't have much trouble seeing what is what on Google and with help from my other maps I can make do without that kinda stuff, but I do agree that they would aid someone very much in seeing things in better.

 

[HMS Beagle]

Oroblanco;

Like somehiker said, they to give headaches. not only that but to get geared up with camera and lens are expensive....

Stereo pairs can be shot with any camera.
B

 

[Quinan Bear]

yes i understand that any camera will work. For me though, I would need to purchase both camera and lenses, besides I don't need them to see what I see.

QUESTIONS

Once all these places are recorded and documented. Who would I talk to, to have these areas registered for what they are?

Should the mines be left alone or opened prior to registration?

Would I gain the same recognition if I were to post all my information on the forum and let others to prove them to be right? or would I lose the ability to claim these areas as I being the one to find them, or will that go to the one that goes there and pin points the spot?

Would it be possible to get a treasure trove permit, for the Church Treasure? (It has church reliquaries, along with gold, silver and jewels).

What is the name and address of the person in charge of the Tonto National Park?

Anything else that you might think of, for me to do before these places are all found, would be appreciated. I want this to be done right but don't know alot about the legal affairs of the state and it's laws concerning this find.

 

[ghostdog]

Quin Bear, I dont doubt your sincerety in what you want to do in the mts,however if you have read some of the other postings on the Lost Dutchman ,you will know that the Park area might be closed down,and also there has been a recent unsolved missing person incident. Permits are probably difficult and time consumeing to obtain,and then you have to deal with the unknown factor of those working illigaly in the mts who will go to any length to protect their turf.You might be better off doing a book,a good title would be the Impossible Dream, finding the Thrunder God"s Gold...