The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

[markmar]

The smooth, wavy line at the very top of the UTS is the profile of the los some(r)o montana as described on one of the Stone Crosses, and is the Fornix or "arch" on the CP.

In contrast, the line above the RIO on the upper left of the horse side of the H/P stone is squiggly. The letter R is furthermore not similar to the one on the UTS. That one of the legs of the R is long and points to the horse itself, suggests that either crossing the river or following it leads to the horse. But which river? And how? And what do the five dots represent? And the two circles and buried symbol? These are some of the questions I continue to ruminate on.

And if you have been paying attention to anything posted on this board, there is no horse for me to "find." It was already found, a long time ago. And there is absolutely no question at this point, that it is the same horse as the one depicted on the Stone Maps.

Maybe you are the person who doesn't pay attention to what is posted about the stone maps. Or maybe you don't want because you are vested in a bad theory which leads to nowhere.
You write the real horse was found but your writings say something else: " But which river? And how? And what do the five dots represent? And the two circles and buried symbol? These are some of the questions I continue to ruminate on."

 

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[markmar]

For those who want to know what is the real meaning of the words on the stone cross map in regards with the Some(r)o Montana, the text should be read as " The mountain's shallow cave".

 

[markmar]

Not really to the horse itself...but rather-->>

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The Somero Montana.
From whence that same Horse began or has still to begin his journey.
And yes....there IS an arch through which a passage may be found.

And for Mick......if the R means Royalty, then maybe this is what you should be looking for ...

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looks like a European style Crown ??

Wayne

The arch written on the Latin stone heart and the Cursum Perficio map, is some feet before reach the church's ruin.

 

[somehiker]

I wish the photos you post were of a bit higher resolution.

Some are <> some aren't
But at least they all are my own and were shot under various conditions and distances etc. at actual locations throughout tho range.
If you're not satisfied with what I'm able to post at any given time....just ignore.

 

[somehiker]

Wayne

The arch written on the Latin stone heart and the Cursum Perficio map, is some feet before reach the church's ruin.

Actually, the "arch" lies beyond the ruins of the "church".
You have to pass over the ruins by a narrow footpath, and it's the only way to get there.
That arch is more important to me now.

 

[markmar]

Actually, the "arch" lies beyond the ruins of the "church".
You have to pass over the ruins by a narrow footpath, and it's the only way to get there.
That arch is more important to me now.

These are new clues to me, maybe from another place.

 

[somehiker]

These are new clues to me, maybe from another place.

Yes.
Another place...
Although I've had to expand even my own search area to some degree, in order to locate and catalogue some of the less well-preserved details from the relevant "maps", art work, and other reference materials available to me to this date.

 

[deducer]

Maybe you are the person who doesn't pay attention to what is posted about the stone maps. Or maybe you don't want because you are vested in a bad theory which leads to nowhere.
You write the real horse was found but your writings say something else: " But which river? And how? And what do the five dots represent? And the two circles and buried symbol? These are some of the questions I continue to ruminate on."

I have never claimed to have all the answers to the Stone Maps mystery, although the crucial pieces of the puzzle are in place, starting with the horse itself which was introduced to me, five years ago. There are still some peripheral pieces that need to be found, and the above wordings that you highlighted are some of the answers I don't have and continue to work on.

That being said, I think I would prefer it be that way- I'm happy that this is such an intricate, precise puzzle because it gives me plenty to think about, to ruminate, and more reasons to go back out there to explore. If I had all the answers at this point, this project would lose its appeal.

What I have is not a "bad theory." I have stood right on the "doorstep," where the fauces (meaning the upper part of the throat) is, and have seen the carved leaning cross and the double dash that marks the beginning of the "18" path as inscribed on the lower trail stone.

 

[sdcfia]

Some are <> some aren't
But at least they all are my own and were shot under various conditions and distances etc. at actual locations throughout tho range.
If you're not satisfied with what I'm able to post at any given time....just ignore.

No, I like the shots and your implications about them, but I just can't quite see the detail I'd like. I realize that some of them are from a distance - but things look different than what they seem when you're up closer.

 

[markmar]

I have never claimed to have all the answers to the Stone Maps mystery, although the crucial pieces of the puzzle are in place, starting with the horse itself which was introduced to me, five years ago. There are still some peripheral pieces that need to be found, and the above wordings that you highlighted are some of the answers I don't have and continue to work on.

That being said, I think I would prefer it be that way- I'm happy that this is such an intricate, precise puzzle because it gives me plenty to think about, to ruminate, and more reasons to go back out there to explore. If I had all the answers at this point, this project would lose its appeal.

What I have is not a "bad theory." I have stood right on the "doorstep," where the fauces (meaning the upper part of the throat) is, and have seen the carved leaning cross and the double dash that marks the beginning of the "18" path as inscribed on the lower trail stone.

Maybe some people here, to believe how my inputs about the stone maps to be just a controversy or a competition with the other members of who knows more about the stone maps puzzle. That's not the case. I leave everyone to live his dream and to follow his beliefs. Is the right of everyone to believe in his own theory and to follow it with hope till the end of his life or the research period.
There are those who follow their beliefs from the beginning till the end and the others who adapt their beliefs in regards to new info and new clues. Who is the correct, it's only a man's opinion.

Now, in regards to what you wrote about the " fauces " from the Latin stone heart map, the word is a Latin one and means " exit ". The " throat " is a Spanish word for " fauces " and on the map, the words are only in Latin.
Always IMO, the Fauces is not at the beginning of the trail but at its end and is an alternative path which ends on the upper edge of the mountain. Is the "1" curved line from the UTM, which starts from the end of the Trail and ends at the dagger, and what the Priest "name" it as a " Bereda Peligroza ". I know, on the Trail map, the "1" curved line starts from the dagger, but for the Latin stone heart map has a different meaning.
This path starts from above the Caverna Aurum and has as markings few stones in line like an arch, which show the way that you have to take in regards to follow the path. Also, on this path is a Meus. The other two Meus are on the Trail, one before the church and another on the bent the Trail takes before its end. As I wrote in the past and always IMO, the Trail is only about 200 feet long, with the " lugares " to be in the most route about 12 feet apart.

I wish good luck to everyone who wants to decrypt the stone maps riddle and to close my input, I post an image of the " fauces " like could be seen at its beginning.

 

[deducer]

Maybe some people here, to believe how my inputs about the stone maps to be just a controversy or a competition with the other members of who knows more about the stone maps puzzle. That's not the case. I leave everyone to live his dream and to follow his beliefs. Is the right of everyone to believe in his own theory and to follow it with hope till the end of his life or the research period.
There are those who follow their beliefs from the beginning till the end and the others who adapt their beliefs in regards to new info and new clues. Who is the correct, it's only a man's opinion.

Now, in regards to what you wrote about the " fauces " from the Latin stone heart map, the word is a Latin one and means " exit ". The " throat " is a Spanish word for " fauces " and on the map, the words are only in Latin.
Always IMO, the Fauces is not at the beginning of the trail but at its end and is an alternative path which ends on the upper edge of the mountain. Is the "1" curved line from the UTM, which starts from the end of the Trail and ends at the dagger, and what the Priest "name" it as a " Bereda Peligroza ". I know, on the Trail map, the "1" curved line starts from the dagger, but for the Latin stone heart map has a different meaning.
This path starts from above the Caverna Aurum and has as markings few stones in line like an arch, which show the way that you have to take in regards to follow the path. Also, on this path is a Meus. The other two Meus are on the Trail, one before the church and another on the bent the Trail takes before its end. As I wrote in the past and always IMO, the Trail is only about 200 feet long, with the " lugares " to be in the most route about 12 feet apart.

I wish good luck to everyone who wants to decrypt the stone maps riddle and to close my input, I post an image of the " fauces " like could be seen at its beginning.

Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel

 

[markmar]

Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel

I believe in the Latin stone heart map, the word " fauces " is used for a narrow passage from one place to another.

 

[Eldo]

You can say that they were pretty artistic

Gotta look through the "Eye" of the needle....an eye is horizontal not vertical...."No Miner" will find my mine....as in not near Miner's Needle



5 Mine Entrances

6 Mine Entrances

7 Mine Entrances.....and their wagons stashed in a high saddle, invisible to all passer's by on the roads below.

18 Mines in total.

Pretty much a dead horse at this point.

Took me 35 minutes to find these locations and a few hours gathering the necessary other info like the paper map that shows the location along the river to guide to the high points and the review of the other info to be able to show that it all points to the series of mines along this location.

Waltzed in and Waltzed out.

Oh and the 30 men found massacred in the valley on their way out?

The codes on the bottom of the stones show the secret to their identity from Virginia

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Left on a 2 yr contract, leaving for the mines, to mine for 18 months or more, to return for a second (7mos) and third leg there, as they buried their stashes in Virginia.....on their third trip out of the valley they were massacred all together. The whole affair was planned as their will was left behind encoded in the Beale Papers.

The Latin Heart Stone bears two sets of markings one is appearing like this : (1)
And the other appears from their second leg like this : ((1))



The legend of the Beale describes their Perilous Enterprise where the stones list their dates and the word "Peligroza" as being the key word being the only non capitalized word.

 

[OldManOfTheRiver]

Fauces in Latin means the upper part of the throat, pharynx, throat, gullet according to the Lewis & Short Latin dictionary. As I have found that whoever devised this puzzle tend to be very precise in their choice of words, I believe that they intended this definition as to create a very precise image, and on the site where the carved leaning cross stands, one does get the impression that there is a cavity that curves back down, into the ground (like the upper part of the throat). There's a mound of dirt and large rocks at this place at the moment, but if all that were to be removed, I would not be surprised to see an entrance resembling the physical shape of a throat. Fauces in modern Spanish means "maw" which is basically the same thing.

Fornix: vaulted opening; monument arch
Medulla: marrow, kernel; innermost part; quintessence; kernel

I've found the word "gola" before and that is "gullet" or throat.
Just sayin' I don't know, but it's odd.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

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You can say that they were pretty artistic

Gotta look through the "Eye" of the needle....an eye is horizontal not vertical...."No Miner" will find my mine....as in not near Miner's Needle

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View attachment 1773330 5 Mine Entrances

View attachment 1773332 6 Mine Entrances

View attachment 1773333 7 Mine Entrances.....and their wagons stashed in a high saddle, invisible to all passer's by on the roads below.

18 Mines in total.

Pretty much a dead horse at this point.

Took me 35 minutes to find these locations and a few hours gathering the necessary other info like the paper map that shows the location along the river to guide to the high points and the review of the other info to be able to show that it all points to the series of mines along this location.

Waltzed in and Waltzed out.

Oh and the 30 men found massacred in the valley on their way out?

The codes on the bottom of the stones show the secret to their identity from Virginia

www.facebook.com/SolvingBealePapers

Left on a 2 yr contract, leaving for the mines, to mine for 18 months or more, to return for a second (7mos) and third leg there, as they buried their stashes in Virginia.....on their third trip out of the valley they were massacred all together. The whole affair was planned as their will was left behind encoded in the Beale Papers.

The Latin Heart Stone bears two sets of markings one is appearing like this : (1)
And the other appears from their second leg like this : ((1))

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The legend of the Beale describes their Perilous Enterprise where the stones list their dates and the word "Peligroza" as being the key word being the only non capitalized word.

I have had some luck with the Peralta Stones map. I have determined one location that is on the map. Can you refer me to someone interested in working to finding what is hidden there?

 

[horsehunter]

Hello to those of you that hunt the Dutch. I've read your post about the Peralta stones and I must tell you they are very real and YES they give very precise directions to the location of the end of the trail where the horse can be found carved on a rock face north of the river just like it says. Before you start to decipher the maps you first have to learn the language. It's not spanish, it's Latin. One clue in particular is always misinterpreted from Spanish instead of Latin. That's this one, El Caboyo de Sante Fe. That says "The horse of the saint " not the horse of santa Fe. Also you must know that the Saint side is Jesuit. The Saint was made by Father Eusibio Kino's ppl long before the Peraltas came to town. The Peraltas found it and used it in their maps cuz it was so cool. Now we that know about the stones know that the trail starts at knife hill. But then where do you go next ? Well if you look you will find that the knife is pointing up a little. It's pointing to another clue. There's a small nap up near the top of knife hill. It's the horizon to the east of knife hill. The map leads you to the saint hill. So now your at the saint, so where to now ? The saint is pointing at something, but what ? This is where it gets good. I have to learn how to post a picture before I can show you anything but I will soon. Here's a teaser clue. The tail of the horse is Queen Creek.

 

[horsehunter]

Very interesting, but very wrong ! The horse can be seen carved on a rock face looking the same way as on the map and it's EXACTLY as drawn on the map, no abstract guessing needed. BUT it can only be seen for 15 minutes a day at noon in the middle of the summer because it's a shadow carving. You can see the shadow of the carving on the rock as the sun rises to the right angle then just as fast as it appears it vanishes from view. I found it several years ago but my affliction of addiction prevented me from moving forward with it's discovery. I'm sober now and this year I'm going to document it's location with my partner and yes I will post pictures of it all including all the deciphered clues that lead up to it. Stay tuned for more to come.

 

[393stroker]

Stones = Puzzle

Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?

 

[markmar]

View attachment 1851848 Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?

I believe means " All go around but nobody on the path" ?
IMHO, the map is simple if someone knows where the Trail lies. Is a trail to test your beliefs, hard and dangerous.

 

[deducer]

View attachment 1851848 Took a copy and overlayed it on GE, then used the tools/ruler option. Made circles from the X`s. 2=3-@-18=7, drew a line from the 3 to where the circles meet and to the other side. From there the 1 in the 18 lines up to that point. From there lines match up with other things. I think 7 could be a reference point of 7 somethings or treasure. It would be nice to know what it all means. Anybody else got anything to add?

The number 7 represents something that is "finished" or "complete," or a that you've accomplished a task or reached a destination, especially as far as the bible is concerned ("On the 7th day, God rested."). So 18 = 7 could be taken to mean that you've reached your destination (the heart) after going 18 places.