HOLA buscadores del tesoro,
MUCH to cover so this will be yet another long-winded post, apples to those who hate such things...
Blindbowman wrote:
the dutchman left very clear discription of the mine it self and related the site to the peralta . this is that mine , i dont think it is , i know for a fact it is , by its discription alone . there is little to no chance it could be misteaken for any other mine .. so yes without adout this is the Sombrero mine ..
I beg to differ on whether the Dutchman left a clear description, though that could be a matter of personal choice, I would say that his description is so un-clear and hazy that treasure hunters have failed to find it for over 100 years. Hardly what I would call a "clear description". You have now made a statement that "without a doubt" your discovery is the Sombrero mine - how can you be that sure?
Blindbowman also wrote:
yes ,i have seen many digings by treasure hunters ... even some nice shafts and workings , even some tailing piles ... in fact , i found dozens of them over a 9 mile area ..
Hmm well that statement opens the door to many questions. Would you care to describe any of those old workings?
Real de Tayopa wrote:
Do you like animals? If so, may I invite you to go for a ride with me into the desert on my lovely Mule under a full tropical moon ?
Oro turned me down, so did djuicy, sniff, they'll be sorry..when they see me riding off with a beautiful gal
Well amigo I would never begrudge you having a beautiful gal, and would point out that my choice NOT to join you via mule-back
was due only to your choice of mount. I have ridden on a mule and found it to be a
most un-comfortable ride, quite different from riding any kind of horse. A horse's shoulder joints move (mostly) in the horizontal plane, resulting in a relatively smooth ride; a mule's shoulder joints move in both horizontal and vertical planes, making them a bit more sure-footed on cliffs and rocks yes, but making for a quite jarring ride - even the shape of their back is different enough that if you are accustomed to riding a horse, you will almost feel like you are heading "downhill" all the time!
I did honestly contact the border authorities about bringing my own horse south, and the red tape stymied me. Getting the horse into Mexico was not that difficult (a current vet's health certificate they did ask for though) the problem was getting the horse BACK into the USA. Don't write me off quite yet amigo, I cannot promise anything but am trying...
Gossamer, in case I neglected to say this earlier - welcome. I hope that our sometimes 'heated' banter doesn't give the impression that we are not friends, I believe all of us here are friends. Finding any two treasure-hunters who can agree on anything related to treasure though might be more difficult than finding the Lost Dutchman! We do sometimes forget how much we have in common interests though.
Gossamer wrote:
BB I find that your words and expressions speak of a gentle/angry (?) full/lonely (?) soul. Trust of course is earned. Has anyone gained it from you?
I know this question is directed to our mutual amigo Blindbowman, but I would say that I trust him even though we have never met in person. (I do hope to rectify that too in the future, with a little luck. Cactusjumper's annual Dutch-hunters rendezvous might do the trick to meet several of our friends here.)
Gossamer also wrote:
Hi... please forgive my ignorance, but could someone direct me to the Dutchman's exact words describing the mine?
There are multiple sources with multiple versions and some of these are online. A good deal of what is available is material that cannot be traced to Jacob Waltz however. Here is a site with a list of some 100 "clues" to find the mine:
http://www.thelostdutchman.net/
Some of the statements can be traced not to the Dutchman but to one of the early Dutch-hunters, which has a little less value than a direct statement. Of the many "clues" the one that I believe is the most striking, and perhaps
the most important statement was something Waltz said to his young friend Reiny (Reinhard) Petrasch, when he was trying to describe how to find it - quote:
"
Reiny, you better listen! That mine is hard to find, even when you know where it is!"
Unfortunately for Reiny, he did
not pay close attention and he failed to find the mine.
Good luck and good hunting amigos I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
your friend,
Oroblanco
Just in the last few weeks I've seen at least 3 almost identical claims of "fact."
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Anyways, I still do hope you locate something interesting and important out there and can prove it - I believe such things exist in the Superstition Mountains.
