QUESTIONABLE INFORMATION POSTED AS FACT CONCERNING THE BEALE TALE

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alan m said:
Except that one time at the dutchman rendezvous, :laughing7:
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lol we were there 10 minutes before someone tried to brake into our car ... that's what the Rendezvous reflected to the both of us .. ...they should be ashamed of that happening ..after all the "leave it out side the gates" BS ... go read the Wagoner reply ....lol
 

Blindbowman said:
lol we were there 10 minutes before someone tried to brake into our car ... that's what the Rendezvous reflected to the both of us .. ...they should be ashamed of that happening ..after all the "leave it out side the gates" BS ... go read the Wagoner reply ....lol
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Yea, they do not let you ride bikes on the wilderness trails, even pretty little pink ones :laughing7:
 

alan m said:
Yea, they do not let you ride bikes on the wilderness trails, even pretty little pink ones :laughing7:
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yes but you can cut some ones head off and never do a day in jail .. a lot of ways to die out there !
 

Alan_m and Blindbowman, please end it before a mod ends it for you.
 

Blindbowman said:
I can prove the Beale treasure trove is real ...and sorry his name was not Beale ...no one will just tell you where it is ....lol but yes with out any doubt what so ever I can prove the Beale letter is true ...
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Will this be another Peralta Stones Reavis and Mudhead tale about the Beale story or that Poe faked his death and moved to France to write scifi with Jules Verne?
Been a whole lot of questionable information bandied about on these threads claiming proof that "the Beale letter is true", and none have ever proven so.
 

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… Maybe near Jim Morrison's but we would need directions from Legrand who decoded Poe's "Grand Diddle".:wink:
 

Blindbowman said:
I can prove the Beale treasure trove is real ...and sorry his name was not Beale
... but yes with out any doubt what so ever I can prove the Beale letter is true
...the problem started when the cypher was incorrect ...page 2 is not solved correctly I don't think this . I know it for a fact .
...I know where it is and what it is .. and why no one has found it ...
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The "Beale treasure trove is real" and the "Beale letter is true" BUT "his name was not Beale"?
With that logic applied, then is was not a Beale letter or treasure, or ciphers created by Beale.
No wonder the Harts and Pauline Innis couldn't find the Beale treasure vault.
Well that really crashes my Risqué/Ward "all in the Family" connection. :thumbsup:
Yeah, 'NUFF SAID! :laughing7:
 

ECS said:
Over the years on various threads statements have been posted as "fact" when there is no documentation outside of the original source, THE BEALE PAPERS, publish by James Beverly Ward during the year of 1885 in Lynchburg, Virginia.
Most appear to be based on opinion of maybe or pure embellished speculation, or force fitting random possibilities to fit a pet theory.
Some of the questionable "facts":
Robert Morriss was related to Robert Morris Jr, signer of the DOI.
The Fine Arts Building on 600 Main St was the Morriss house where Beale stayed.
Indians observed from a distance the kiln fires that the Beale Party utilized to smelt the ore.
Once smelted gold and silver was made into bars by sand box casting.
The gold was about 60% or 14K, the silver little more pure.
The gold and silver bars were transported in false bottom wagons.
To cross Big Otter Creek, the bars had to be unloaded and placed on pack mules.
The treasure was placed in 30 gal salt Boone's Salt Works brine pots.
The "key letter" was never delivered because of a St Louis flood.
...and so on.
None of what is listed above is mentioned in the original source of THE BEALE PAPERS.

Despite the conclusions made by Lt Thomas Fawcett who interviewed Lynchburg residents for codebreaker Col William Friedman concerning the Beale Papers and the treasure story-
"The investigation in which we made...tended to support the view that the whole story of gold buried in Bedford county by Captain Beale and his associates was spun from the imagination of Mr Ward" report dated 30 April, 1949-
speculation and lore continue to be presented that lack foundation in actual events.
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(The "key letter" was never delivered because of a St Louis flood.
...and so on.)

That flood was in 1826 right? I think this theory from the NSA is correct.
It was a major flood and disaster was reported in a 300-500 mile area. If the letter was in fact in a friend's possession in St Louis no matter who that friend was it would have been distorted. It didn't show up that's for sure.
 

That is if this alleged "letter" ever really existed outside of the pamphlet pages of the Beale Papers.
So far, the story contained in those pages has never been confirmed as to actually having occurred outside of those pages.
 

ECS said:
That is if this alleged "letter" ever really existed outside of the pamphlet pages of the Beale Papers.
So far, the story contained in those pages has never been confirmed as to actually having occurred outside of those pages.
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What do you think would be outside proof on the Beale Adventure?
 

ECS said:
The "Beale treasure trove is real" and the "Beale letter is true" BUT "his name was not Beale"?
With that logic applied, then is was not a Beale letter or treasure, or ciphers created by Beale.
No wonder the Harts and Pauline Innis couldn't find the Beale treasure vault.
Well that really crashes my Risqué/Ward "all in the Family" connection. :thumbsup:
Yeah, 'NUFF SAID! :laughing7:
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LOL!
 

In addition to the Ward/Risqué "all in the family" references are the references to Bedford county and Lynchburg, beginning with the list of names who knew or were "entertained" by Robert and Sarah Morriss, all had connections to Lynchburg.
What is obvious is that the Beale Papers was written expressly for the 1885 Lynchburg market, which is often overlooked in discussing the story narrative.
The other not really discussed is the vagueness of description apparent in the "western" and St Louis sections of the story narrative, and how they transported the gold and silver across the Mississippi, the condition state if the silver traded for jewels in St Louis, or the trop back to Bedford county and Bufords.
 

ECS said:
In addition to the Ward/Risqué "all in the family" references are the references to Bedford county and Lynchburg, beginning with the list of names who knew or were "entertained" by Robert and Sarah Morriss, all had connections to Lynchburg.
What is obvious is that the Beale Papers was written expressly for the 1885 Lynchburg market, which is often overlooked in discussing the story narrative.
The other not really discussed is the vagueness of description apparent in the "western" and St Louis sections of the story narrative, and how they transported the gold and silver across the Mississippi, the condition state if the silver traded for jewels in St Louis, or the trop back to Bedford county and Bufords.
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What say YE, then...?
 

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