Pirate Treasure-Trying to get a permit to dig up

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My guys will be here in 30 minutes. They are two of my best friends. Both are TNET members. Both were involved in the digs with Ovid back in the early nineties. They have been to North Carolina after the pots of gold on more than one occasion. They have spent their money to help me rent equipment. There is no one other than my wife more deserving of being there and sharing in my first find. I feel no pressure at all about today's dig. I have done what I can to try to figure out if we are on a good spot. One of my friends was there when I brought in the LRL guy. All we can do is keep trying. We are willing to give any method or device a chance. If this hole has nothing but junk in it, so be it. There will be no tears. There will be no whining. We will fill the hole back in, clean up our mess, thank and shake hands with the church guy, and go back home. Our wives will not give us a hard time. I will start planning our next adventure.
 

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Bigdogdad said:
My guys will be here in 30 minutes. They are two of my best friends. Both are TNET members. Both were involved in the digs with Ovid back in the early nineties. They have been to North Carolina after the pots of gold on more than one occasion. They have spent their money to help me rent equipment. There is no one other than my wife more deserving of being there and sharing in my first find. I feel no pressure at all about today's dig. I have done what I can to try to figure out if we are on a good spot. One of my friends was there when I brought in the LRL guy. All we can do is keep trying. We are willing to give any method or device a chance. If this hole has nothing but junk in it, so be it. There will be no tears. There will be no whining. We will fill the hole back in, clean up our mess, thank and shake hands with the church guy, and go back home. Our wives will not give us a hard time. I will start planning our next adventure.
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The never give up attitude is great and its great to work with people that dont whine..
 

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Just to back you up...had a guy in a more western state give me some Google earth coordinates (he was at least 1,000 miles away) aid we would find silver....sure did ...some state people had dumped some fill in a creek that was starting to washout near the road.....the fill was what he had told us the location of in Kentucky..it was silver ore! he was within 6 inches of it!! he had me do another one in Ohio and said it was indicating silver and gold and steel..naturally we figured it was a steel box with coins in it. ..well we went to the exact spot and suing our device we found it exactly as he said....a rock with silver ore, another with extremely fine gold, both laying almost touching a sign post...from 1,000 miles away ..he had never been to either location. There is something to these guys ability don't think there is not.
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How much money did you make on the silver ore and the rock with extremely fine gold? Just curious.
 

I am back home. It was a very interesting morning. It was not an empty hole by any means. I did not find what I was looking for. We don't know what we found. I will be going back. I will post pictures and perhaps a video from today. At one point I had my arm into a man made object (cavity) and my phone rang. It was my Seminole Indian guy. He wanted to inform me that my good friend and my cohort and partner on the "Swamp Gold" site, was killed in a head-on collision last night. My brown recluse spider bite is getting bigger and throbbing, I am covered in sweat and dirt, and I am not in the mood for you all's trash-talking.
 

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Bigdogdad said:
I am back home. It was a very interesting morning. It was not an empty hole by any means. I did not find what I was looking for. We don't know what we found. I will be going back. I will post pictures and perhaps a video from today. At one point I had my arm into a man made object (cavity) and my phone rang. It was my Seminole Indian guy. He wanted to inform me that my good friend and my cohort and partner on the "Swamp Gold" site, was killed in a head-on collision last night. My brown recluse spider bite is getting bigger and throbbing, I am covered in sweat and dirt, and I am not in the mood for you all's trash-talking.
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OMG!!! he was my friend too. Must be Tamiami Trail its a dangerous highway. So so said for his family. He was a really great guy. I cant find anything on the in ternet. I hope its not true. Im gonna make a few calls.


Your spider bite will continue to get worse before it gets better.
 

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I made a few calls and unfortunately its true. T.O. was also killed in the other car. Both cars were Indians. They want to keep it out of the news and off the web so you may want to delete your post or at least abbreviate his name. You know how the Indians are. I am trying to find out if there will be funeral arrangements in town or in the swamp. Keep me informed BDD if you hear about paying respects where and when. Its a cryin shame.
 

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So sorry to hear of your loss... Good friends are irreplaceable...
On the task at hand: I am curious and cannot begin to guess what a man made cavity found in a hole that is not empty could possibly be!
 

Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Glad you found something BDD.
 

I'm sorry about you friend too, although I unsubscribed from your thread, you got my interest back with that brown recluse spider bite!
Looking forward to pics and video!
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Thanks guys. My friend was in his prime and had a wife and children. It is a huge loss.

I have never done any of my own video editing or downloading it to this site. I will try to get my wife to help me. We only took a few pictures because we were videoing everything and can probably get still shots from that.


20140621_124202.jpgchurch1.jpgNot sure what this is. church7.jpgThere was a man made structure with interconnecting concrete pipes which appeared very old and was broken. church10.jpgThis is one of three different structures.


One horizontal pipe was sealed on the end with concrete. The end of that pipe went under our dirt pile. There were pieces of old wood, some junk, and nails. My friends were running out of time, we weren't sure what to do next, I got the terrible phone call and I decided we would fill the hole back in. I can and will go back under better circumstances. No "treasure" at this point, but it was not an empty hole in the least.
 

Sorry to read of folks loss. Mind that bite on your leg.

The slide gates in pics look a little like the ones in school that controlled vacuum exhaust on small metal shop furnaces. Seems like air control inline of a run. Calvin Rustrum in his book "the wilderness Cabin" I think, showed a similar concept of slide gate installed in his floor and attached to wood stove drop from a tee in the exhaust to floor to backfeed stove at night.I don,t recall the principle but it seemed to avoid drawing cabin air into stove when fire was low but instead draw outside air.:dontknow:Don,t see any other safe heating application but as an intake of air.
The closed end rolled seam does not work for a sand discharge in foundry work or where material can wedge gate end into seam..The recovered gate seems limited in use to air.A pit with a fire can have a covered trench or a pipe leading to a structure or simply a barrel to smoke meats thus reducing heat over the length of the run and avoiding fire in the meat holding structure. A kiln or oven too could use a slide gate as a draft control for air entering.Don,t see any sign of an ash or burn layer though.
 

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It almost looks like an old no longer functioning septic tank or a dry well for drainage. I would imagine all the old buildings have septic systems that were just buried when sewers were put in. I dont know what the metal is. It almost looks like part of a folding stove or a vent that opens and closes. You could post it on the What Is It forum for identification. Did you find the non-ferrous metal yet?

You know BDD if he was alive he would be reading this. He told me he enjoyed reading the Swamp Gold thread in his car passing the time.
 

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Could it have been the base of an old chimney with an opening to a basement or ash door?
 

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It almost looks like an old no longer functioning septic tank or a dry well for drainage. I would imagine all the old buildings have septic systems that were just buried when sewers were put in. I dont know what the metal is. It almost looks like part of a folding stove. You could post it on the What Is It forum for identification. Did you find the non-ferrous metal yet?
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I agree,BCH.My stepfather was a plumber in the 1960's,and I got to do all the digging when an old sewer line was to be removed before installing a new cast iron sewer line.The "structure" with pipes running from it,may be a distribution box from a septic tank to the drain field.
Now I did find an old cork hole medicine bottle under an 1880's house while removing an old line-the house is still standing on Fort King Ave in Ocala's historic district.
 

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