Pirate Treasure-Trying to get a permit to dig up

[Bigdogdad]

ECS-Admit that you look forward to my posts and are enjoying this thread, and the best part is you don't have to get all sweaty and dirty.

 

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[waybill]

seems you've been fighting with the state on this a few years and not getting anywhere maybe time for plan b.

 

[waybill]

time for plan b. a is not working lol

 

[Bigdogdad]

time for plan b. a is not working lol

I know it appears that I don't appreciate good advice, but when some one goes to the time and trouble to give me a well thought out, detailed and constructive plan like waybill has, well I just want to say how thank full I am. FTR-I have not talked or fought with the state about this dig for the last year and a half.

 

[Jon Phillips]

Sounds like somebody is afraid of "Plan B"........


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[Bigdogdad]

Sounds like somebody is afraid of "Plan B"........


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If I had taken most any of the "advice" I have been given concerning this site, I would definitely have been needing your "Plan B".

What do you think I am "afraid" of? Finding nothing? Finding something illegally, blabbing about it, and then getting in trouble for committing a felony? Other? I would not think anybody would claim I am afraid of finding nothing as evidenced by all the empty holes I have dug, admitted such, and then posted pictures.

I am involved in so many other legal ventures that I don't need to get ****** and need your Plan B.

 

[ECS]

I think its about time for another Burma Shave.

Tales of treasure made his pendulam leap
Ovid said dig,you replied how deep
Over 20 years of digging since that day
Not one ounce of treasure has come your way
You should have got that BURMA SHAVE!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Bigdog and Ovid,
traveled around the country,
with an impressive assortment of pendulums,

but alas not one ounce of real treasure,
only some rusted iron and a dead mule,

but at least he is honest.

 

[vor]

What do you think I am "afraid" of?

The realization that Ovid was just a lonely man on his last hurrah riding around in your Trans Am on an adventure. No gold. No silver. No diamonds. And no magical powers. Sorry to have to break the news to you.
V

 

[Jon Phillips]

If I had taken most any of the "advice" I have been given concerning this site, I would definitely have been needing your "Plan B".

What do you think I am "afraid" of? Finding nothing? Finding something illegally, blabbing about it, and then getting in trouble for committing a felony? Other? I would not think anybody would claim I am afraid of finding nothing as evidenced by all the empty holes I have dug, admitted such, and then posted pictures.

I am involved in so many other legal ventures that I don't need to get ****** and need your Plan B.

Wow dude.....Just wow.....

So you can use sarcasm in your post just above mine, but you can't recognize it in anyone else's?

Once again I have to come back and explain every little detail of what was meant by my post...the whole time trying my best to not mistype something, or use any shortcuts in explaining it, or it might be thrown back at me, prompting another "clarification" post.


I'm no psychiatrist or anything, so I don't know the proper terms, but there is something going on, in my opinion, where you believe that someone that is not 110% on board with everything you say, must be against you...no matter what they say or do to the contrary...It's only black and white with you. (And yes the 110% as opposed to 100% is for emphasis....I know you can only be 100% of something...so no need to point it out)....(Oh...and that was sarcasm)

I think you totally ignore any advice that isn't something along the lines of: "I had a psychic vision last night BDD, and the ghost of Jose Gaspar said there is treasure buried in the KFC parking lot in Englewood...."

If you will recall...I posted a couple of pics of the Rocky Bluff site before the interstate, and all the buildings were there....not a word from you....I suspect that it was useless info to you because a map dowser didn't put an "X" on it. I take those old pics, and look for cleared areas...old trails...etc., that might help narrow down areas of former human occupation.

I recall that I told you early on that they will NEVER issue a permit to look for treasure...ESPECIALLY under a major bridge...post 9/11!!

That you needed a different, legitimate, reason to investigate the area.

That going in there and being "all over the board" talking about race cars, flame-shooting guitars, lighting farts on fire, etc., wasn't going to show them how serious you were, but how unfocused on the topic at hand you were.

But.....you cared for that about as much as you cared for the part where I told you that...in fact...metal detectors don't detect metal because the metal is giving off it's own electrical impulses...but that the detector sends out the transmission, then receives it back, and detects the conductivity of the metal object in it's field.

I've always wished you well, and said that there could be treasure there...even if I believe 0% in map dowsing.

I usually get rudeness in return.

So here it is: My post about the "Plan B" was in no way a reference to doing anything illegal....or to any alternate method at all....It was simply a response to your funny response about the "well thought out, detailed and constructive plan" that was offered to you....I was adding to the sarcasm....trying to joke around and be light-hearted...I see now that (as usual) your sarcasm was meant to be nasty....and not so light-hearted.

I see now that I can never be on your side "some of the time" because I don't believe in magical treasure hunting and the LRL scams....

I realize that I can never joke around with you, because even though you say you can take it....if you think it is remotely directed towards you....you are going to fly off the handle because your ego just won't accept it.

Everything seems to come down to ego, and a "measuring contest" with you...it's a shame.


So here are some of my totally un-related achievements...maybe they "measure up".....


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[Bigdogdad]

Jon Phillips-One of the problems with the internet is that you can't always sense the true tone of what one person is saying or replying to another. I have a great sense of humor and like to give sarcasm and have no problem receiving it. I am impressed with your cars and I like your style. You do not live far from me. I have invited you to meet me which you turned down. I received no invitation to come meet you. Are you afraid of me? Just joking! Sarcasm! Don't get mad.

I have listened to all your advice and actually believe you have given the best of anyone on here. I believe you are honestly trying to help which seems to be rare on TNET. I would really like to meet you in person at my house, your house or anywhere in between. We only live 40 minutes apart. I will bet that we would become friends.

I know I have a habit of coming across as a real ass on here. Maybe I am one. But if so I am an honest ass. I am not implying that others are asses like me. I am what I am and I am too old to change, plus I don't want to.

BTW-When I was at the FDOT meeting I kept the subject matter on point. I had a shirt on that had a small logo relating to our kennel. I was asked about it and I had some pictures in my brief case which I showed to them at the very end of the meeting. It never hurts to put a personal touch and sometimes help get people on your side.

As far as lighting farts, I have never shown anyone a picture of me lighting a fart. There is a picture in my e-book of me TRYING to light a fart. Big difference! Let's keep the farts, I mean facts straight! This is more sarcasm and me trying to be funny.

 

[Jon Phillips]

See there?

Much better when things are light hearted!

You invited anyone that wanted to meet you to do so. Some have, many haven't, including me. It's nothing personal, and not an official turn down or rejection....

 

[Jon Phillips]

And thanks for the kind words about my cars.

Good luck on your quest......for fart ignition! (humor!)

 

[Bigdogdad]

The realization that Ovid was just a lonely man on his last hurrah riding around in your Trans Am on an adventure. No gold. No silver. No diamonds. And no magical powers. Sorry to have to break the news to you.
V

I am not afraid of any of that. I have not given up on any of it yet. Maybe I never will. If I am "afraid" of anything it is that I am going to wait too long to go after some of the places and will not be able to dig because of development. It has already happened on some. I just hope I don't become a lonely old man like you and ECS-No guts. No glory. No dreams. Not sorry to break the news to you.

 

[BeenThereDoneThat2]

Cool Hand Luke

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[Bigdogdad]

It is easy for anyone to write Ovid off as a fraud, charlatan, wacko, or delusional old man. You are judging him by my lack of success. If you had seen what I have seen you may feel differently. Having the best metal detector in the world no matter what it costs does not insure that you will successfully find treasure. There are many more elements such as luck, timing, perseverance, research, karma, and more that all need to come together. I don't see pictures on here of anybody doing any better than me. I will not give up.

Here is a picture of when we drove to Virginia 23 years ago to try to find the Beale treasure. We videoed this dig and I have video of almost all our other digs. This was an over 2000 mile round trip. We were told that Mel Fisher was flying around the area in a helicopter while we were there. I am reasonably sure it had nothing to do with us being there.


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[Bigdogdad]

And thanks for the kind words about my cars.

Good luck on your quest......for fart ignition! (humor!)

The fart lighting attempt while I was entered in a national comedy contest failed as my jets were to big, I was running a little rich, this caused me to flood the lighter flame, which led to failure to ignite, otherwise I would have been the brightest star of the night. I have a picture somewhere but can't seem to find it at the moment. A little help vor? Permission granted to post pic.

 

[ECS]

It is easy for anyone to write Ovid off as a fraud, charlatan, wacko, or delusional old man. You are judging him by my lack of success...

Here is a picture of when we drove to Virginia 23 years ago to try to find the Beale treasure... We were told that Mel Fisher was flying around the area in a helicopter while we were there. I am reasonably sure it had nothing to do with us being there.
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Is that empty hole you and Ovid standing by the result of another "EXACT SPOT" of Ovid's pendulum dowsing?
Another Mel Fisher name drop post!

 

[Bigdogdad]

Jon-Here are a couple of pics taken at a car show at the Gamble plantation near Rocky Bluff. These are my two brothers cars View attachment 965319and my car. We have more cars.

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[Bigdogdad]

Is that empty hole you and Ovid standing by the result of another "EXACT SPOT" of Ovid's pendulum dowsing?
Another Mel Fisher name drop post!

It is not me or Ovid standing by the hole. It is a friend of mine and the property owner. We arrived at the site in the late afternoon. Ovid dowsed where he thought the gold was. We decided to dig the next morning. For some reason the spot he picked that morning was slightly different than the night before. The angle of the sun can affect dowsing. We paid a local to dig. Nothing was found. Aren't you happy I post pictures of all these empty holes? It makes it so easy for you to make fun of me. I must be a glutton for punishment.

Another Mel Fisher name drop? I am just repeating what was told to us by a local at the time. I think the Fisher's had contacted him too. Believe it or not. I am sure there is someone out there that could verify everything I say about this, but you know what, it doesn't matter to me because I was there. Did you know that Mel Fisher was interested in buried treasure? Go ahead and ask someone about him being up there.

Just for poops and giggles, here is a pic of a hole I dug in North Carolina near the bank of the Cape Fear river on a hunting preserve. Ovid said a chest was buried there. The sides of the hole starting caving in on me, we were in the woods, this was before cell phones, and I had a sickly 91 year old man standing next to the hole.


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