Pirate Treasure-Trying to get a permit to dig up

[vor]

I think its about time for another Burma Shave.

 

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[Bigdogdad]

I will stop but I felt I was doing more defending than attacking. ECS is insulting my intelligence. What is his motivation on here? I started this thread to talk about a place where I think there MAY be some silver buried. He continues to deny that it could possibly exist. Why? He acts like I am on trial here. I don't have to prove anything to him or anybody else. He absolutely cannot prove that this silver may be buried at Rocky Bluff. But yet he tries.

 

[flyadive]

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BDD we are with you!
Don't let people get to ya, "presume on your beliefs"! Prove them wrong!
It's about the hunt!
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[Treasure_Hunter]

Please stop the insults, if you have an issue report it and let mods handle it....







American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......

 

[smokeythecat]

I was watching this thread earlier. Not the lat week or two as I've been sorting several trillion pennies. If there's something there and it's legal to go get it, then do so.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

ECS, you have already expressed your opinion on this thread so move on.....








American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......

 

[OverKill]

They will deny you to the end,and at the same time ,try to get you to reveal it's location so they can claim it for themselves..... No wonder people avoid taking the right path...

 

[Bigdogdad]

I was watching this thread earlier. Not the lat week or two as I've been sorting several trillion pennies. If there's something there and it's legal to go get it, then do so.

It is on Florida Department of Transportation property. (FDOT) I almost got permission about 10 years ago. I didn't follow thru when I had the chance. There was "renewed interest" and I tried again to get permission to work with the FDOT on this site and they deferred to the state archaeologists. They told me there is no such thing as a treasure hunting permit and they don't want to encourage people to be looking for treasure. If I were to devote more time to this particular project I would get with the local university and try to get them interested in getting a permit to detect, survey, GPR, probe or whatever method they would want to use.

I am currently involved in a couple of other dig sites. One is for pirate silver in Englewood. We may be digging within a week or two. I have permission to dig right now as long as I can do it without power equipment. I am talking to some people that have extensive experience digging by hand. I have dug lots of holes myself but as with everything there are tricks to the trade. The GPR shows the targets at around 5-6 feet. This does not sound like much but there is a problem with the water table. It is very near the inter coastal waters and the water table is at about 3-4 feet. This can be dealt with. I will probably share the results on here as to what happens.

 

[Bigdogdad]

They will deny you to the end,and at the same time ,try to get you to reveal it's location so they can claim it for themselves..... No wonder people avoid taking the right path...

I was told that the best place for any buried silver is to stay right where it is. I don't agree but it is not my decision.

 

[diverdan]

Hey ECS, here is documented proof that people buried their gold:

Calif. couple finds $10 million in gold coins while walking dog | Tampa Bay Times

There was no record of this burial, no research could have found this hoard.

 

[lastleg]

This should serve as a reminder that caches are usually very shallow for easy quick access.

 

[Salvor6]

ECS I will answer your questions. Do I believe there are silver bars buried at Rocky Bluff? Yes. Why? Well first of all it is a documented pirate camp site. Second, there was a treasure chest recovered from that site in 1968. Third, I went there with my Pulse Star II Pro metal detector and when I walked over the spot the needle on the meter was pegged! That never happened to me before. That means it is of significant weight. Also the Ferrous/non-ferrous light said NON-FERROUS. What does all this mean? I don't know and neither do you. The only way to find out is to DIG!

 

[Bigdogdad]

Hey ECS, here is documented proof that people buried their gold: Calif. couple finds $10 million in gold coins while walking dog | Tampa Bay Times There was no record of this burial, no research could have found this hoard.

diverdan-I will bet that you have heard lots of stories about the Rocky Bluff area. You have a unique perspective on this. Please share some if you don't mind.

 

[Bigdogdad]

ECS I will answer your questions. Do I believe there are silver bars buried at Rocky Bluff? Yes. Why? Well first of all it is a documented pirate camp site. Second, there was a treasure chest recovered from that site in 1968. Third, I went there with my Pulse Star II Pro metal detector and when I walked over the spot the needle on the meter was pegged! That never happened to me before. That means it is of significant weight. Also the Ferrous/non-ferrous light said NON-FERROUS. What does all this mean? I don't know and neither do you. The only way to find out is to DIG!

I think the FDOT property has numerous places on it that have gold and silver buried. I also think there is some on the motel property. There is more near the restaurant. Probably lot's of it sitting in the muck in the river. I hope to someday be able to recover some of it. It ain't over till its over.

I will be going to the treasure hunters barbecue in April. Got my room reserved. Should be a good time.

 

[Bigdogdad]

This should serve as a reminder that caches are usually very shallow for easy quick access.

We may be digging for pirate silver in Englewood this weekend. The GPR is showing objects at around 5-6 feet. There is probably a couple feet of fill in this location. Does this depth sound a little more believable?

 

[vor]

That is septic tank depth. Be careful and good luck.

 

[Bigdogdad]

That is septic tank depth. Be careful and good luck.

This location is NOT the one at Rocky Bluff. It is in Englewood Florida.

The dig spot is not even close to the septic tank. The property owner knows of no reason for anything to be at this spot.

A utility inspection showed no pipes or cables.

There is a 150-200 year old non native tree about 20 paces to the east.

There is an artesian spring about 300 feet away.

It is on the northern most section of the inter coastal bay where a large creek enters the bay.

There is a very old palm tree with an arrow carved in the side which faces this spot and the tree is about 15 feet away.

Five people with different LRL type devices have pointed out the area within a 75 circle and claimed they get a strong reading for silver.

My original dowser friend led me to this site 27 years ago. He was so sure of treasure being there he attempted to buy the property. The owner would not sell.

About 10 to 15 different dowsers have said there was treasure at this site. The one I am putting the most faith in has pinpointed the EXACT spot that the GPR guy picked as most likely to be buried objects.

Local historians have told me they believe treasure to be buried in or near this exact location. One said the pirates name that buried the main treasure was Bru Baker or maybe it was Brewbaker.

The last time we dug there we found a very old cable at a depth of about 5-6 feet. We did not know where it ended in each direction as the backhoe broke it off. This cable was about 30 feet from the current hotspot.

The Charlotte Harbor/Lemon Bay area is well known as an area with hundreds of years of pirate activity.

There is more. But I think this is enough to make me want to keep digging. Maybe this weekend will be the big find.

When a newspaper got involved in our second dig 22 years ago at this site they asked the state archaeologist their opinion and thoughts about this site and dig. They said as it was on private property they would not get involved unless human remains were found. Any treasure found belongs to the property owners.

 

[vor]

The tree with the arrow looks to be 50-100 years old imo. What do you think?

 

[vor]

BTW, the opinion of 15 dowsers carry little weight.
But i have always supported your efforts so good luck. You have no lack of enthusiasm.

 

[Bigdogdad]

The tree with the arrow looks to be 50-100 years old imo. What do you think?

In your opinion? How much do you know about palm trees? I am not going to guess its age. If I really needed to know I would try to find out. The arrow and tree are not an big part of this. I only mention it as it just happens to be there.