Pirate Treasure-Trying to get a permit to dig up

[Bigcypresshunter]

If I walked in your shoes I might have a different opinion is very true but I see nothing unusual about an abandoned and broken distribution box because they just dont last forever. Could someone have buried treasure in an old concrete or brick box? Yes its possible but you found no evidence suggesting that IMO.

If you really believe this remote dowser can be accurate from 1000 miles away and he insists that you dig deeper, you should go back and finish the job to remove any doubt. But unfortunately it wont prove anything because he could later say he was a few feet off to the left or right or the treasure was removed.

Drainfields are abandoned all the time after conversion to sewer. The new ones are plastic. Im not sure the purpose of sealing off a pipe in the old system. Maybe if you draw a diagram of the box and pipes in relation to the existing structure someone can help.

 

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[Hot zone]

Excuse me for not understanding your logic. Time warp? How do you turn a .005 second delay into a time warp?

I see light sources all the time with millions of years delay without there being a time warp.

Sheez.

By chance, are you a dowser? Or just being sarcastic?

actually I see similarities between the light from a star given that the star may not be there any more at the moment you see the star light... But to understand time you must understand relativity...Time is relative to the location of the observer...Einstein's train analogy is the easiest way to understand this and I recall it goes something like this: two trains side by side at 60 miles an hour and observers on the train throw a ball at 60 miles/hr the 22 feet from one train to the other taking .25 sec... For an observer on the ground watching the ball move diagonally in the same amount of time; while the train having moved 22 feet down the track...The ball traveling the hypotenuse of a right triangle for a distance of 31.11 ft in the same .25 sec... Now substituting a flashlight for the ball the light speed is however a constant 186,000 ft/sec: the number of feet is now different for the observer on the train and the one on the ground (be it only fractionally)... Only possible if the value of seconds has changed in the speed of light equation...

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

actually I see similarities between the light from a star given that the star may not be there any more at the moment you see the star light... But to understand time you must understand relativity...Time is relative to the location of the observer...Einstein's train analogy is the easiest way to understand this and I recall it goes something like this: two trains side by side at 60 miles an hour and observers on the train throw a ball at 60 miles/hr the 22 feet from one train to the other taking .25 sec... For an observer on the ground watching the ball move diagonally in the same amount of time; while the train having moved 22 feet down the track...The ball traveling the hypotenuse of a right triangle for a distance of 31.11 ft in the same .25 sec... Now substituting a flashlight for the ball the light speed is however a constant 186,000 ft/sec: the number of feet is now different for the observer on the train and the one on the ground (be it only fractionally)... Only possible if the value of seconds has changed in the speed of light equation...

You are making this way too complicated. The time that it takes light to travel 1000 miles is extremely minimal no matter at what angle or at what speed the dowser is traveling. Its not possible for someone to dig this alleged treasure in less than 1 second time.

It was an interesting thought but unless the dowser or observer is in a far away galaxy, it doesnt apply here and dont take it personally but this seems to be just another example of gibberish to explain continuous failure by map dowsing..

 

[Hot zone]

You are making this way too complicated. The time that it takes light to travel 1000 miles is extremely minimal no matter at what angle. And it doesnt matter whether the dowser is traveling or not. Its not possible for someone to dig this treasure in less than 1 second time.

It was an interesting thought but unless the dowser or observer is in a far away galaxy, it doesnt apply here. Sometimes I think map dowsers are living on some far away place.

I like that: the observer of the treasure now 100 years dead and his thoughts having traveled to a distant star 50 light years away and bounced back to earth for our dowser to receive...

 

[Hot zone]

Ignoring my baffling BS, the point I was making is that remote distance dowsing following the laws of Physics, gets his info from the past...be it only fractionally, it is in the past... Is there a limit to how far in the past?

 

[xrunndonex]

I like that: the observer of the treasure now 100 years dead and his thoughts having traveled to a distant star 50 light years away and bounced back to earth for our dowser to receive...

Youre comparing brain waves to the speed of light?

 

[xrunndonex]

Youre comparing brain waves to the speed of light?

Brainwaves travel at 3700 ft per second

 

[Hot zone]

Brainwaves travel at 3700 ft per second

i was using light as the max speed period...my fuzzy math is also in error because traveling at the speed of light to a distant star and back is much harder to wrap my head around:as an astronaut according to Einstein making the journey ages less than we do on earth...

 

[Hot zone]

Youre comparing brain waves to the speed of light?

just as a voice can be transmitted over a distance on radio waves, a brain wave signal modulating with radio waves could travel at near the speed of light! The old Death Valley Days episode of a tuba on a metal bed under a telegraph line transmitting a voice to a telegraph operator at some distance comes too mind...

 

[lastleg]

These pretzels are too salty.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

BDD have you tried ESP? You said you would try anything. Put an ad on Craigslist to see if you get any response. I know you will not give up.

 

[Hot zone]

BDD have you tried ESP? You said you would try anything. Put an ad on Craigslist to see if you get any response. I know you will not give up.

when you speak of ESP do you include Postcognition or retrocognition as I have alluded too in my explanation of dowsing information from the past, or perhaps telekinesis, or even telepathy...either of which don't seam to apply!

 

[Hot zone]

How about simply clairvoyant then?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

when you speak of ESP do you include Postcognition or retrocognition as I have alluded too in my explanation of dowsing information from the past, or perhaps telekinesis, or even telepathy...either of which don't seam to apply!

I was saying that the difference in time due to the speed of light doesnt apply because its less than one second. How could someone dig up treasure in less than one second? Its just not far enough into the past to make any difference. Unless of course he was reading brain waves bounced off some far away galaxy (joking).

BDD said he is willing to try anything. ESP was just a suggestion. I know nothing about ESP nor do I claim to.

I have read plenty about map dowsers because there are many here at TN. None of them impress me sorry. It seems all they have found is excuses.

 

[xrunndonex]

I was saying that the difference in time due to the speed of light doesnt apply because its less than one second. How could someone dig up treasure in less than one second? Its just not far enough into the past to make any difference. Unless of course he was reading brain waves bounced off some far away galaxy (joking).

BDD said he is willing to try anything. ESP was just a suggestion. I know nothing about ESP nor do I claim to.

I have read plenty about map dowsers because there are many here at TN. None of them impress me sorry. It seems all they have found is excuses.

Or its being detected in another realm

 

[Hot zone]

I was saying that the difference in time due to the speed of light doesnt apply because its less than one second. How could someone dig up treasure in less than one second? Its just not far enough into the past to make any difference. Unless of course he was reading brain waves bounced off some far away galaxy (joking).

BDD said he is willing to try anything. ESP was just a suggestion. I know nothing about ESP nor do I claim to.

I have read plenty about map dowsers because there are many here at TN. None of them impress me sorry. It seems all they have found is excuses.

Ok, using xrunndonex 3700 ft/sec the distance for the brainwave to travel back from the 1000 mile distance would take over 11 minutes... Further in the past than the speed of light... Any evidence of Postcognition opens the possibility of greater times involved... The dowser would be imagining a different time in the past than he is occupying in the present...

 

[xrunndonex]

Ok, using xrunndonex 3700 ft/sec the distance for the brainwave to travel back from the 1000 mile distance would take over 11 minutes... Further in the past than the speed of light... Any evidence of Postcognition opens the possibility of greater times involved... The dowser would be imagining a different time in the past than he is occupying in the present...

Hmm what if the shot with Google maps was a year old. Meaning that's the last time it was updated

 

[vor]

Back on the topic of your find, was there a concrete plug close to the septic tank?



I am sure that you know that it is common practice to put a sack of concrete over an abandoned septic inlet/outlet line.

 

[Hot zone]

Hmm what if the shot with Google maps was a year old. Meaning that's the last time it was updated

good point...perhaps the 1000 mile guy was using a 1900 map!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Ok, using xrunndonex 3700 ft/sec the distance for the brainwave to travel back from the 1000 mile distance would take over 11 minutes... Further in the past than the speed of light... Any evidence of Postcognition opens the possibility of greater times involved... The dowser would be imagining a different time in the past than he is occupying in the present...

I dont know but I would like to know if BDDs man ever found anything in the past. That would be the first question I would ask him.

Is map dowsing and remote sensing the same?