Pauline Innis

It is amazing that by asking Franklin if he saw Pauline Innis' alleged Otey iron box that he has mentioned many times on several threads would cause all the animosity, when a simple yes or no would suffice.
 

ECS said:
It is amazing that by asking Franklin if he saw Pauline Innis' alleged Otey iron box that he has mentioned many times on several threads would cause all the animosity, when a simple yes or no would suffice.
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I have given you several "NO's" many many times but you pay no attention and keep posting asking for a yes or no. You have them read them and stop asking.
 

bigscoop said:
Pauline Innis
... In her book Pauline Innis makes claim that during her research and investigations into the Beale story that she had witnessed to the iron box and its contents, a pretty deciding claim, to say the least. Now obviously if she did actually see the iron box and its contents then this lends an incredible amount of credibility to the story, but did she actually see these items, or was she simply lying in order to add more credibility to the story and her book?

I, for one, believe that Innis fabricated her witnessing of the iron box and its contents but I only base this conclusion upon the fact that she failed to document the event in the form of pictures, which she claims wasn't permitted, yet she does manage one image of some random numbers on a piece of torn paper that is contrary to her claim that pictures weren't allowed. Maybe she was telling the truth, maybe she wasn't? Lacking all manner of evidence except her word who can really say for sure?...
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The very simple thing missed by those who quote Innis as proof, is this:
If Innis was able to photograph the numbers covered torn slip of paper that really appears to be unrelated to the Beale ciphers, why was she unable to photograph the "iron box"?
 

releventchair said:
Were pictures not allowed a sketch could be made from recollection with rough dimensions.
Telling folks pictures were not allowed, yet not providing a drawn and written detail description of box makes it possibly too vague to believe...
The risk being a competing box if one was presented and declared the original.
In fiction she had free reign to describe/draw/detail box all she wanted.
If she was not sure it was false she may have been wary of too much detail, fearing a truer version may surface.
Maybe she too was a fence rider on the subject.
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All possible conclusions, and no one has ever claim to have been shown this "iron box" by Pauline Innis, so it is highly that this "iron box" was ever in her possession.
 

ECS said:
All possible conclusions, and no one has ever claim to have been shown this "iron box" by Pauline Innis, so it is highly that this "iron box" was ever in her possession.
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Wow! After all this back and forth, give and take, zig and zag, this thread is right back where it started.

All these pages, all these words, all these ideas and theories, and what is the end result?

Here is the end result: no one is certain if she saw the box or not!
 

...and most importantly, she never had the "iron box" in her possession, nor was it a part of her estate or taken to the UK by her cousin- this is just lore that's been passed on as fact. :icon_thumleft:
 

45th_Johnny said:
Where to now?
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If dwelling on Pauline , then to covering old ground again.
What did she write to claim her work was? Or better , would it be fiction or non fiction?

Old ground ; as Reb hit on something years ago in relation to the question from her work ,Gold in the Blue Ridge. ( Page 15.)
 

As I am new to this link, I ordered the book the day I learned of it. I will try to catch up, when it gets here. I have been away from this search for almost fifteen years.
 

releventchair said:
If dwelling on Pauline , then to covering old ground again.
What did she write to claim her work was? Or better , would it be fiction or non fiction?

Old ground ; as Reb hit on something years ago in relation to the question from her work ,Gold in the Blue Ridge. ( Page 15.)
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"Pauline Innis died in 2007 and was a personal friend. She was a prolific if eclectic author of about 20 books...
A friend of famed psychic Jeanne Dixon, she often amused guests at Washington parties by telling thins about their lives based on astronumerology. She advised people about numbers and names...
There were many famed Washingtonians over the years that swore by her pronouncements"
- R Crane
While many make much ado about her "Gold In The Blue Ridge" and her "connection" to George Hart from whom she borrowed much of the Beale information for her book, her Beale research was discarded in favor of her astrosearch readings of one's future for making business decisions based on the "secrets of the Druids" ( she was British after all), and the "birth matrix" of the one receiving the her reading.
It is interesting to note what many cite as evidence for the Beale adventure treasure tale of Ward's pamphlet, the Harts, Innis, Ellis, all involve statements from those involved in the esoteric world of mediums, clairvoyants, spirit guides. and astronumbers readings.
 

ECS said:
"Pauline Innis died in 2007 and was a personal friend. She was a prolific if eclectic author of about 20 books...
A friend of famed psychic Jeanne Dixon, she often amused guests at Washington parties by telling thins about their lives based on astronumerology. She advised people about numbers and names...
There were many famed Washingtonians over the years that swore by her pronouncements"
- R Crane
While many make much ado about her "Gold In The Blue Ridge" and her "connection" to George Hart from whom7 she borrowed much of the Beale information for her book, her Beale research was discarded in favor of her astrosearch readings of one's future for making business decisions based on the "secrets of the Druids" ( she was British after all), and the "birth matrix" of the one receiving the her reading.
It is interesting to note what many cite as evidence for the Beale adventure treasure tale of Ward's pamphlet, the Harts, Innis, Ellis, all involve statements from those involved in the esoteric world of mediums, clairvoyants, spirit guides. and astronumbers readings.
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Yes.
But how does her credibility come into question when she did not claim her Gold book was nonfiction?( Did she?).
Give your audience what they want . Everybody walks away happy. Well, most everybody.
 

After the publishing of her "Gold In The Blue Ridge" Pauline Innis moved on to many other projects and pursuits and left the Beale tale behind and never really discussed it unless contacted by Beale believer groupies.
 

bigscoop said:
Today we know that she never actually saw the iron box and the contents, at least not the real deal. And yes, we know this for sure now.
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...and we can add that Claudine Fulton Ellis did not see a portrait of George Radar Brugh hanging in the lobby of the Planters Hotel in St Louis, and yes we know this for sure now as the Planters Hotel hasn't existed since 1922.
 

ECS said:
...and we can add that Claudine Fulton Ellis did not see a portrait of George Radar Brugh hanging in the lobby of the Planters Hotel in St Louis, and yes we know this for sure now as the Planters Hotel hasn't existed since 1922.
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Why do you keep posting the same thing over and over. Find your own research and leave me alone.
 

ECS said:
...and we can add that Claudine Fulton Ellis did not see a portrait of George Radar Brugh hanging in the lobby of the Planters Hotel in St Louis, and yes we know this for sure now as the Planters Hotel hasn't existed since 1922.
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You don't have access to those photos do you? The stereo camera was in the area from 1840's on. Are you sure she did not see a portrait of this person or are you just inventing facts again?
 

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