Odyssey Marine Article...

Agreed Trinidad, from start to finish, this whole thing has been nothing but ugly.
 

Jeff K said:
MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
Vox veritas said:
trinidad said:
Excuse me Vox, but there is a comment here: Would some of you both (you and García Calero) apologize for this lie? I hope at least you do. I don expect such a behaviour from Calero.
Basically, Juan Cisneros, prosecutor in Algeciras, denied your version (when I say you I mean the gang (Mata, Sarmiento, Calero, Vox, etc), from the very beginning to the last point. It was that simple as calling to the prosecutor to know and spred the truth. The very basic duty of a journalist.

Link in spanish
http://www.diariodecadiz.es/article/ocio/1202094/odyssey/genera/una/nueva/polemica/la/linea.html

http://translate.google.com/transla.../pipe-sarmiento-y-expediente-odyssey-20120308
:read2: Jeff. what will this do to your pending high court ruling :dontknow:
Claudio what ship's of that date sunk in Spanish waters in the Med ?
Ossy

Don't believe anything Sarmiento says. He's nothing but a liar.

I have a proposal: beatify "Saint" Greg Stemm in the Vatican?
 

Jeff K said:
MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
Vox veritas said:
trinidad said:
Excuse me Vox, but there is a comment here: Would some of you both (you and García Calero) apologize for this lie? I hope at least you do. I don expect such a behaviour from Calero.
Basically, Juan Cisneros, prosecutor in Algeciras, denied your version (when I say you I mean the gang (Mata, Sarmiento, Calero, Vox, etc), from the very beginning to the last point. It was that simple as calling to the prosecutor to know and spred the truth. The very basic duty of a journalist.

Link in spanish
http://www.diariodecadiz.es/article/ocio/1202094/odyssey/genera/una/nueva/polemica/la/linea.html

http://translate.google.com/transla.../pipe-sarmiento-y-expediente-odyssey-20120308
:read2: Jeff. what will this do to your pending high court ruling :dontknow:
Claudio what ship's of that date sunk in Spanish waters in the Med ?
Ossy

Don't believe anything Sarmiento says. He's nothing but a liar.

Jeff,
Sarmiento is not listed on the stock exchange. Odyssey yes!
 

Jeff K said:
MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
Vox veritas said:
trinidad said:
Excuse me Vox, but there is a comment here: Would some of you both (you and García Calero) apologize for this lie? I hope at least you do. I don expect such a behaviour from Calero.
Basically, Juan Cisneros, prosecutor in Algeciras, denied your version (when I say you I mean the gang (Mata, Sarmiento, Calero, Vox, etc), from the very beginning to the last point. It was that simple as calling to the prosecutor to know and spred the truth. The very basic duty of a journalist.

Link in spanish
http://www.diariodecadiz.es/article/ocio/1202094/odyssey/genera/una/nueva/polemica/la/linea.html
Jeff, Why would he have to lie :dontknow: What does he have to gain :icon_scratch: Odyssey on the other hand would lose all creditability
and Greg Stemm would face charges!
And the corrupt Spanish politicians should go to jail.
Pipe new book claims the Black swan is not the Mercedes and was taken from Spanish waters in the Mediterranean. Looking forward to the book.
Ossy
 

For starters, he's selling a book. I'm sure he's not giving it away for free. Let's see his proof. Until then, he's nothing but a liar.
 

Jeff K said:
For starters, he's selling a book. I'm sure he's not giving it away for free. Let's see his proof. Until then, he's nothing but a liar.
Jeff the book will be very cheap and you will be able to download it for free.
Pipe is a wealthy man and does not need the money from the book, So :dontknow: why would he lie.
I am toll there will be lots of photos.
Ossy
 

Ossy, dont believe anything you see in a photo. I still remember when the Spanish paper ABC showed the first prove (25 may 2007): the “journalist” said he got a picture of a coin from the Black Swan took by an airport employee at Gibraltar. It was completely (and grossly) false. The picture was taken from the web http://franklinmint.com/newsmedia/, and the hand that held the coin wasn’t from an airport employee, was the Moshe Malamud´s hand, showing a coin belonging to the El Cazador shipwreck.
And Mr. Sarmiento could be looking for notoriety. He looks like he loves being on media in his character of super-savior of who knows. Thanks god the Pdf will be free and we will be able of reading this work without spending a cent. I hope Mr. Sarmiento, doing a good use of the freedom of speech, will correct all the lies and misinformation he spread before because in Spain we also have a law about the calumny with publicity, but I´m sure Mr. Sarmiento, lawyer, is aware about this point.
 

Jeff K said:
For starters, he's selling a book. I'm sure he's not giving it away for free. Let's see his proof. Until then, he's nothing but a liar.

All proceeds will go to an environmental foundation. No profit Jeff! Internet download costs 3 euro.
 

trinidad said:
Ossy, dont believe anything you see in a photo. I still remember when the Spanish paper ABC showed the first prove (25 may 2007): the “journalist” said he got a picture of a coin from the Black Swan took by an airport employee at Gibraltar. It was completely (and grossly) false. The picture was taken from the web http://franklinmint.com/newsmedia/, and the hand that held the coin wasn’t from an airport employee, was the Moshe Malamud´s hand, showing a coin belonging to the El Cazador shipwreck.
And Mr. Sarmiento could be looking for notoriety. He looks like he loves being on media in his character of super-savior of who knows. Thanks god the Pdf will be free and we will be able of reading this work without spending a cent. I hope Mr. Sarmiento, doing a good use of the freedom of speech, will correct all the lies and misinformation he spread before because in Spain we also have a law about the calumny with publicity, but I´m sure Mr. Sarmiento, lawyer, is aware about this point.

Trini,
I see you very worried. The difference between you, and me and Sarmiento is that we do not hide behind a nickname, but you, yes!
I'm Claudio Bonifacio and I have nothing to hide. But, who are you?
 

Bonifacio, nothing to be worried about. Nothing to do with OME, nothing to do with you and your gang. I have not shares from OME and I have nothing to hide from you but my name. In fact, there´s someone in this forum who knows who I am, but I´ve told him because I trust him. That´s not the case here. I cant imagine how dangerous you and your gang could be for me seeing that you dont mind spreading lies, calumnies, slanders... name it as you want. This last one (as the others before) it´s already on a lot of web pages. Thousands of people will believe it´s true (it comes from a so called journalist), and nobody has showed even a clue of all this garbage. And you want my name? No, man. I wont give it to you as I´d never buy a car on sale by you. It´s a question of trust.

Anyway, I didnt start this thread. I only write down my answers as a reaction to your posts. If you say something, you have to carry on with the consequences, in this case my apostilles to everything you say that it doesn´t look the truth for me. You have always the opportunity of contradict what I say. And, till now, you never did. You avoid answering and keep asking who I am.
An example (and you´ll see you dont answer): did I lied about the story about the photography from El Cazador? It´s a easy one. Just yes or no. Just in case, I have a fistfull of examples like this one.
 

For the record, I know Trinidad personally. I know his full name and his address in Spain, he is legitimate, and not affiliated with anyone regarding to this matter. He's an outstanding gentleman, and a man who can be taken at his word in my experience, he will tell you the same about me. He has good reason for being secretive about his identity, trust me. He is also very wise, and "in the know" on matters regarding the Spanish powers that be. I don't expect that you will take my word, but I have no reason to lie and no interest in this issue other than my feeling that our American judicial system did a deplorable job on this particular case.

Take that for what it is worth to you.

Jason Nowell
 

trinidad said:
Bonifacio, nothing to be worried about. Nothing to do with OME, nothing to do with you and your gang. I have not shares from OME and I have nothing to hide from you but my name. In fact, there´s someone in this forum who knows who I am, but I´ve told him because I trust him. That´s not the case here. I cant imagine how dangerous you and your gang could be for me seeing that you dont mind spreading lies, calumnies, slanders... name it as you want. This last one (as the others before) it´s already on a lot of web pages. Thousands of people will believe it´s true (it comes from a so called journalist), and nobody has showed even a clue of all this garbage. And you want my name? No, man. I wont give it to you as I´d never buy a car on sale by you. It´s a question of trust.

Anyway, I didnt start this thread. I only write down my answers as a reaction to your posts. If you say something, you have to carry on with the consequences, in this case my apostilles to everything you say that it doesn´t look the truth for me. You have always the opportunity of contradict what I say. And, till now, you never did. You avoid answering and keep asking who I am.
An example (and you´ll see you dont answer): did I lied about the story about the photography from El Cazador? It´s a easy one. Just yes or no. Just in case, I have a fistfull of examples like this one.

Trini,
"Expediente Odyssey" tend a big virtue: it is shown from official documents irrefutable, overwhelming and conclusive. Expected to read it and then you judge it.
P.S. have you read the documents of "Bahía II" case?
 

Bonifacio, you see? Not a yes nor a no. You´re becoming predictible. If the answer is unconvenient to you, you change the subject. Old trick, unuseful trick. Anyway, thanks god I can read in english and spanish. You hang a link to a blog with "Guardia Civil" in its adress pretending that there is something official behind that forum. A tricky move in two senses: nothing officially to do beetween this forum and the Guardia Civil; and the content of this link is, again, the new from the paper ABC. Nothing less and nothing more. A copy and paste exercise. Gorgeous!

PS: Thanks for your words Jason. You know, the same to you :icon_thumright:, but let´s stop it here and not give Bonifacio (and anybody else) a key to find out who I am or any other information about me. Plus, I dont know why but I like him being so curious about it. :dontknow: It´s kind of funny :laughing7:.
 

trinidad said:
Bonifacio, you see? Not a yes nor a no. You´re becoming predictible. If the answer is unconvenient to you, you change the subject. Old trick, unuseful trick. Anyway, thanks god I can read in english and spanish. You hang a link to a blog with "Guardia Civil" in its adress pretending that there is something official behind that forum. A tricky move in two senses: nothing officially to do beetween this forum and the Guardia Civil; and the content of this link is, again, the new from the paper ABC. Nothing less and nothing more. A copy and paste exercise. Gorgeous!

PS: Thanks for your words Jason. You know, the same to you :icon_thumright:, but let´s stop it here and not give Bonifacio (and anybody else) a key to find out who I am or any other information about me. Plus, I dont know why but I like him being so curious about it. :dontknow: It´s kind of funny :laughing7:.

Trini,
"Expediente Odyssey" tend a big virtue: it is shown from official documents irrefutable, overwhelming and conclusive. Expected to read it and then you judge it.
P.S. have you read the documents of "Bahía II" case?
 

Ossy, excuse the divergenve, just curious, are you related?
 

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